@tour2ma said:

Anybody want to talk about Pryor today?

Na.. but not like me not a single post in a 7 pager from me about Kenny Britt.(whats that tell ya).but Browns52 calls me his Boy?..still waiting Browns52

Bueller?

Bueller?

Some deserve to crow about Britt... with the proper deduction for any Pryor touting...

@domcucch1994 said:

Hah this Shmucking douchebag is Dwayne Bowe 2.0!

And to think, some of you actually thought this was a good idea!

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Makes shudder to think of which washed up WR in FA they will sign next.

@choco said:

and with a mere 16 games and a single draft class, you somehow think you already know how it's gonna shake out?

Nailed it.

@canton-dawg said:

Sad, but since 1999, those 3 guys are the cream of the first round crop.

However, it's the current FO is who I'm questioning.

Why is it browns fans think they know how a players career will end up after a year...

@jiggins7919 said:

Not getting the same sense here. Aside from Hue's "we're done with him," going into last season, I'm hard pressed to recall a comment excepting some softening at season's end.

I was among those that thought at the time that Hue was speaking for the Staff and their plans for 2016... was simply putting out word that he was done with the topic least it become a distraction.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

Absolutely... you plan to add FAs with ever increasing emphasis as you approach contending for titles, the corollary of which is your draft position drops.

We moved further, faster this year in FA than I thought we would, but where we did, the OL, in retrospect makes sense to me from a foundational standpoint. And, maybe most importantly, the opportunity to add a high-level OG, while weakening a divisional opponent, was one that begged to be seized.

Also agree on the WR pick up. Not sure of the percentage luck played vs. planning scenarios, but certainly the value of a vet presence in the WR room is a big bonus of the Britt signing.

And I agree with other posters that say Coleman is still an unknown. He got completely dicked over by awful QB play, a rotating QB carousel, the injury, and by playing for a team that was down 20 points in every game. You may be thinking, "Well, if our team is DOWN 20 points a game, shouldn't his numbers GO UP?" Well, yes and no. If an NFL defense knows you're passing it every play, it can be very difficult to get deep. I also remember our QB's missing Coleman several times, many of those misses quite deep. Coleman MUST stay healthy, MUST improve, and we MUST have more consistent QB play and better defensive prowess.

And who the hell is our slot receiver going to be? Hawkins wasn't a world beater by any stretch, but do we even HAVE a slot guy? Can Higgins be that guy? Yeah...not by what I saw last year. Can he improve? He better...and quickly. I thought we could've signed Kendall Wright for that spot, as he signed somewhere for a very affordable deal. Maybe we can get someone like Victor Cruz? Not sure, but I think we need another veteran presence in the WR corp.

Many analysts have O.J. Howard going to Browns at 12, and I'd be cool with that. But if we do that, who the hell is playing QB? If we can't trade for JG, and we don't draft a QB at 12, are we rolling into 2017 with Cody? So we'd have Howard at TE with Devalve and Barnidge. That's pretty damn good. Many people feel that Howard is so talented, that a team's entire offense can basically be based around him.

@tour2ma said:

Fine, however, I maintain that the jury is still out on Coleman... same as most of the class of 2016.

True... but they did place an emphasis on the draft.

Emphasis, sure. And that's why we picked 14 guys last year and have 22 picks over the next two years. But we're going to add guys via FA too and just because we do doesn't mean we're "abandoning the plan".

The rule of thumb is that WR's come into their own by year three. We lost a big bodied #1 and have a roster full of young talent just entering year two. Adding Britt isn't like we're backing up and punting on last year's draft class. We just had to fill a void and luckily there was a player that fit that mold for us in FA.

One or two youngsters will shake out as decent players.

@canton-dawg said:

Fine, however, I maintain that the jury is still out on Coleman... same as most of the class of 2016.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

The mistake is looking at one year and concluding it's "the plan". At no point have they said "we will strictly be acquiring talent via the draft".

True... but they did place an emphasis on the draft.

@mudfly said:

Odd?.....no.........sad?......yes

Kind of feels that way to me.....except Id expect this HC to actually play the guy brought in, as opposed to exiling him....(Britt cost a lot more, thats for sure)(so expectations will be high)

I think the issue is that this team cut/released all the WR experience in a massive purge, so they could go with youth.....

And, now, suddenly they over pay for an older receiver with a limited resume......which is EXACTLY OPPOSITE what the plan was just a few months back.....

1 year ago....we had Benji - Gabriel - Pryor (all up and coming talents)....plus Hartline - Hawkins - Bowe - Moore (all veteran players)......and we saw fit to cut and release every one of them......

And now, have left ourselves with the 4 guys we drafted....and nothing else but a glaring need......so we signed Britt.....

I dont dislike Britt.....just hate spinning our wheels and not making any notable progress.....

Basically....yes

I hope so.....we someone who can.....

I would add... Benji/Pryor/Gabe could all outrun DB's......which Britt cant.....

The mistake is looking at one year and concluding it's "the plan".

At no point have they said "we will strictly be acquiring talent via the draft".

They said they'd be exhausting all avenues, including FA, if the move was right. Signing a tall, young receiver who can high point balls to a multi year deal is the right move. Signing a 29 year old 2nd year receiver to a one year deal is not the right move, regardless of where he played college football.

Maybe if Benji and Gabe outran a few more DB's, they'd still be here...

@the-gipper said:

Well....they have ONLY had one pick in round 1....Corey Coleman...or maybe I misinterpreted. I thought it was about 1st round picks over the years.

But maybe it was just about who this FO has picked.

One draft...14 picks....not a single one rated in Top 50 rookie players in the NFL. Yep, jury is still way out on them.

I wonder how many more chances Jimmah is going to give them.

@canton-dawg said:

Well....they have ONLY had one pick in round 1....Corey Coleman...or maybe I misinterpreted. I thought it was about 1st round picks over the years.

But maybe it was just about who this FO has picked.

One draft...14 picks....not a single one rated in Top 50 rookie players in the NFL. Yep, jury is still way out on them.

@the-gipper said:

Joe Thomas? Joe Haden? Danny Shelton? How far back?

However, it's the current FO is who I'm questioning.

@canton-dawg said:

This is their first year really, last year was pretty rushed after FO changes.

@canton-dawg said:

Joe Thomas? Joe Haden? Danny Shelton? How far back?

@tour2ma said:

As for our draft we spent a first, a fourth and two fifths on WR. How much gold did you expect from that haul?

Until the Browns can actually hit on a first rounder, at any position...the bar is set pretty low.

With as many picks they had, one would think the law of averages would've given us at least 1 gem in the lot.

This FO has shown they can swing deals, but I still doubt their ability to draft well.

@texasag1969 said:

Well considering all were reaches with the possible exception of Coleman, we got exactly what I expected, wasted draft choices that we could have used in trade instead of just bodies taking up roster space.

My heart tells me that our front office HAS to get it right on another WR. Maybe Higgins? Louis did some decent things, but I fear his stone hands will doom him ultimately. I can see it now...Louis breaks free down the field, Kessler finally gets to throw it deep....and *CLANK*. Right off the mitts.

@tour2ma said:

Well considering all were reaches with the possible exception of Coleman, we got exactly what I expected, wasted draft choices that we could have used in trade instead of just bodies taking up roster space.

@canton-dawg said:

Why?

Who they pick up are likely players they wanted either in the draft or UDFA, but were not available or did not come to us. Now we get our look at next to no cost.

As for our draft we spent a first, a fourth and two fifths on WR. How much gold did you expect from that haul?

@tour2ma said:

Nothing odd about turning over any and every rock if you think someone is under it that might improve the team.

We've done the same thing with OL...

@canton-dawg said:

Nothing odd about turning over any and every rock if you think someone is under it that might improve the team.

We've done the same thing with OL...