@umadogg1 said:

RE: the Gip- he may think that- (more like posit that as a possibility) but I don't. The odds of Osweiler being the Browns starter in September are only slightly better than McCarron's.

RE: Z, yup- he'll never post the possibility that the Browns are going to lose. OTOH, In July I predicted the over\under on Browns wins in 2016 at 2.5, and took the under. Ghoolie won a cool $1k in Vegas taking the under on the "official" line of 4. I seriously POed some of the guys here taking whoever was playing the Browns in the Survivor League- since it was two strikes, I made it all the way to the Super Bowl, and lost that one on the over\under.

So I'll say this from a not so far distance taking that into account- living 55 miles from Paul Brown- I get way more Bengal info from both the media and fans than I'd like. I'm not kidding- I'll take Zombo's stance you're heading to the AFC North cellar this year. Minus two starters on O-line, defections in plenty of other places- you're in trouble. Just like the PacMan. even if he plays, he'll get eaten alive. You had your "window of opportunity". Guess what? It's slammed shut, short of pulling 4 HOFers out of your ass in one draft like the Steelers did in the 70s, the party is over.

Since the draft hasn't happened yet- I'm not about to put a number on Browns wins- but I'm thinking it will be more than the Bengals.

Hoorta---Don't blame me. Gipper says you traded for Osweiler to be your new starter. Kept bragging about his playoff experience. I just thought it was funny how the Texans owner said he was shocked anyone would trade for the guy in the first place. I bet every GM in the NFL has your teams phone number on speed dial now.

Tour---I'm starting to think you're deliberately trying to hurt my feelings.

Hoorta---Is Zombo still predicting the 1-15 Brownies win every game? Do people still fall for the gag by taking him seriously? BTW, my 2 year old prediction that the Browns are two years away from being two years away still stands.

@roycerolls said:

They need to take a cue from Mora.... Instead of their "Welcome to the Jungle" tune before the games, it's gonna be "Welcome to the basement" of the AFC North. I think Z's long predicted collapse is happening this year for the Queen City Kitties. Meow!!

@hoorta said:

Personally I'd hang onto AJ. Minus Witworth and Zeitler, I have a feeling you just might need him this year.

No way, dude. Dalton is going to lead the Bengals to the Playoffs so he can promptly lose to the team that will lose the following week. After all, he has thrown one whole playoff TD to six interceptions in 4 playoff losses, that's about as good as it gets....if you're trying to make Tony Romo look like Tom Brady.

@umadogg1 said:

You being oblivious Uma? To the Browns the second round pick we got from the Texans was worth it if we had to take on Osweiler's contract as baggage. Let me know when you hear about Brock's press conference on being traded.

You couldn't get what you wanted for McCarron last year, and I doubt you'll be able to this year. Personally I'd hang onto AJ. Minus Witworth and Zeitler, I have a feeling you just might need him this year.

@westside-steve said:

Trusting my kilted, bro is a given...

Was he more entertaining back then?

@tour2ma said:

West Virginia?

And you're either not a Cinci fan at all, or a Uma-come-lately...

Trust me he's been around since the old AOL days under the name Umaflyy.

WSS

@d-bone said:

In that case... nevermind...

D Bone---Can I assume the only reason any Brownie fan cares about Osweiler is because his wife is hot?

Tour---Did I mention the swimming pool?

@tour2ma said:

Thought you might notice that! (I did say right mind)

@d-bone said:

HEY! Watch it, bub...

Must be a fulfilling life to spend your valuable time on another team's fan forum just to be an ass to a group of strangers you'll never meet..... Thousand Oaks must be proud.

Get out and go for a bike ride - I'm sure your waistline and heart could use the improvement.

Mud---Are you still disengaging? It's so hard to tell.

@mudfly said:

@umadogg1 said:

Mud---I assumed you were smart enough to realize Hue can't speak openly or at length about players under contract to another team. Did I give you too much credit?

Yeah- and I could assume by Hue's statement the Browns might be inquiring about the availability of Aaron Rodgers, or any other NFL player you care to name. And as to trade opportunities- I've said before we're not going to be stupid about giving up too much for a specific player. BTW, it sure sounds like the Bengals are looking for a team to do exactly that. Those trade opportunities might also mean talking to other teams potential interest in moving up or down in the draft.

Hue can motor mouth all he wants to, based on his last year's track record- I'd do the exact opposite of what he's inferring. If you notice Sashi and the rest of the Front Office are maintaining almost complete radio silence.

@umadogg1 said:

It would suck.....and just be a continuation of shit decisions by our FO.....plain and simple....

Not even a good troll....(you try WAY too hard)....

@umadogg1 said:

And it isnt clear to you that most Browns fans dont think McCarron is that guy?......seems obvious to me....

Tour---Of course I have sports car(s). And a big fancy house too. It's pathetic, right?

@umadogg1 said:

I do realize that....hence my surprise at how you happen to know what he's been discussing and with whom....

You know what they say about people who assume things.....

@umadogg1 said:

..... where he expresses hope that previously discussed trade options are still viable..

Now...where does he do this...?......^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

@mudfly said:

As an aside......do you even have a football point to make here?....

Apparently not.....

Time for me to disengage.....Ill return if/when a valid point gets made.....or when we sign McCarron....