@calfoxwc said:

yet, the phoney science about mmgw is antagonistic to churches. go figure. Gee, I have been in Christian churches off and on

again for many years, back in the day, and NOT one of them was antagonistic to science. Muslim bigot much?

"Overtly" antagonistic no, but as a whole yes. And that goes back a "long" time. I mean look at the resistance to any scientific exp to the origins of the universe. Look at the resistance to scientific exp of human evolution. Look how some of u cant completely let go of a theory of a 6k yr old universe. Look at the push to put creationism (pure shiite rubbish from a scientific perpective) INTO SCIENCE CLASSES!!!!!!

again for many years, back in the day, and NOT one of them was antagonistic to science. Muslim bigot much?

@clevfan4life said:

having not lived in the middle east would be hard for me to comment, but here..yes ur absolutely right. Christians always want to tell other people what to do with their own bodies cause "that body belongs to jesus"...yet they happily indulge in all the life extending technologies science offers.

You can just look at history. Antagonism with science was institutionalized by the church.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

I think enlightened Muslims are the ones who don't want sharia law through extreme violence.....something like that.

@osiris said:

having not lived in the middle east would be hard for me to comment, but here..yes ur absolutely right. Christians always want to tell other people what to do with their own bodies cause "that body belongs to jesus"...yet they happily indulge in all the life extending technologies science offers.

That, I suppose, would make him an expert liberal on racial matters.....

@clevfan4life said:

It threatens their control. Thats interesting about the quran tho. But woody is right...if a scientist appeared to contradict some teaching of mohammed, im very sure there are some muslims that would ghost that ngr in a millisecond.

And to be equally fair there are enlightened christians that have come to understand that the universe is more complicated, and wondrous, than was originally relayed thousands of years ago. But science has its traps too. Because science deals "solely" in the external/material universe....some men have forgotten the primal instinct of who and what we are. And thats when u see these scientists on tv gleefully talking about becoming machines....they cant wait to start putting circuitboards in their heads.

Not for me fuck that noise.️

Sure, probably. I'm just saying the antagonism between science in religion is far greater with Christianity. And yes there are enlightened Christians, I know at least one personally. We just don't seem them here much.

@osiris said:

HEre we go again, trying to recruit new members into Islam. never ends, apparently. His Highness Osiris strikes again.

Nobody asked, your Highness. But that is what liberals do - they change the subject.

@clevfan4life said:

It threatens their control. Thats interesting about the quran tho. But woody is right...if a scientist appeared to contradict some teaching of mohammed, im very sure there are some muslims that would ghost that ngr in a millisecond.

And to be equally fair there are enlightened christians that have come to understand that the universe is more complicated, and wondrous, than was originally relayed thousands of years ago. But science has its traps too. Because science deals "solely" in the external/material universe....some men have forgotten the primal instinct of who and what we are. And thats when u see these scientists on tv gleefully talking about becoming machines....they cant wait to start putting circuitboards in their heads.

Not for me fuck that noise.️

Oh geez, and Cleve goes off the rails a little there.

I was waiting to hear about how we used to fast a bunch too

@osiris said:

I again will never understand why Christians are so threatened by science.

It threatens their control. Thats interesting about the quran tho. But woody is right...if a scientist appeared to contradict some teaching of mohammed, im very sure there are some muslims that would ghost that ngr in a millisecond.

And to be equally fair there are enlightened christians that have come to understand that the universe is more complicated, and wondrous, than was originally relayed thousands of years ago. But science has its traps too. Because science deals "solely" in the external/material universe....some men have forgotten the primal instinct of who and what we are. And thats when u see these scientists on tv gleefully talking about becoming machines....they cant wait to start putting circuitboards in their heads.

Not for me fuck that noise.️

2) There are plenty of anti science Muslims

3) Both religions are ridiculous

4) See guys, I'm insulting Islam too

@clevfan4life said:

Except its not a story steve, u know that right? Our physical bodies at least, are exactly made up of what was said

Wet earth here is also referred to as clay, dust and water, in several other places in the Quran. Analyze clay and it has all the materials that are mentioned in that star dust meme. I again will never understand why Christians are so threatened by science.

Maybe it's me, maybe I'm a super-duper stealth deleter-meder.

But, it's a secret. Nobody who knows tells him, right?

@clevfan4life said:

If i had deleted my own post i wouldnt bring it up woukd i? And it wasnt anything bad i just assumed petulant steven was riding around on his petulant horse again. But if u say u didnt, fine. I cant prove it one way or another nor can i be 100% certain i didnt accidentally delete it

Here's a tip since you seem to be obsessed with being treated unfairly. Today is zombo birthday. If you sent him a p.m. wishing him a good one it may help your status.

PS I also have nothing to do with any of your warnings or timeouts.

WSS

@mld-woody said:

Damn, you are in a PISSY mood.

Keep filling it what you think the other side believes. I'm sure that makes it easier. Down to Cal levels you go...

That's all you've got?

Great stuff.

WSS

@westside-steve said:

As we have discussed typical Steve doesn't bother me because typical steve is smacking the butt of the guy I'm debating.

WSS

Hahahahaha. Sure thing there champ.

@westside-steve said:

And you woodrow act all offended if somebody accuses the left of screeching or bitching about something. Usually that's when you had your butt slapped as far as any kind of argument goes.

That way you can act all offended at the language and refuse to even make one of your lame pointless retorts. On the other hand maybe I should just call you woodpecker because you've apparently got no problem establishing a discussion in those situations.

That aside what was it I implied Cleve, or whoever else you are defending, said that hurts your feelings?

WSS

Damn, you are in a PISSY mood.

Keep filling it what you think the other side believes. I'm sure that makes it easier. Down to Cal levels you go...