@londonbrown said:

As I posted elsewhere, so far Kizer's is the most impressive Gruden Camp episode... and by more than a little.

@londonbrown said:

Kizer 2015 tape is best of the QB's, he has great footwork in the pocket when feeling pressure yet keeping his eyes downfield and can make every throw.

If you believe accuracy can be improved (and that's definitely up for debate) he has the highest upside of them all.

What concerns me about these QB's is not talent it's their focus and decision making. They all have great tape and great traits. But how many times do they miss easy throws, or throw to the wrong colored jersey, or took a sack when he couldn't afford to and could have thrown it away. It happens in the NFL as well but rarely by the best QB's.

@frenchie said:

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You really like Foster - how would you set up our starting linebackers? And Kizer - that's an interesting pick for your first and only QB. Why do you prefer him?

Kizer 2015 tape is best of the QB's, he has great footwork in the pocket when feeling pressure yet keeping his eyes downfield and can make every throw.

If you believe accuracy can be improved (and that's definitely up for debate) he has the highest upside of them all.

@gumby73 said:

"character" concerns may be a big issue in this draft. No one wants to draft another Aaron Hernandez.

@comeonman said:

@tour2ma said:

There's a lot buzz coming out around Fournette's continuing steadfast refusal to do any agility drills, e.g., 3-cone, 20-yd shuttle, etc.

More buzz than McCaffrey's refusal to "work out" at any of his private visits with teams, which has reportedly put off some franchises who were believed to have an interest in him.

The Video makes a world of difference on Mixon. But take a good look at FSU's RB Dalmon Cook criminal background..YUK! no video of his assault. But plenty there. Cooks poor hands at Combine may still boost McCaffrey over Cook? McCaffery was close to flawless at combine.(weak bench) Fournette maybe only RB off board by 12?

@frenchie said:

So you would take any of those top 8 players over a QB in this draft?

Not those 8... but I'd take any of my nine... and were they all gone, then look to trade down.

@frenchie said:

So you would take any of those top 8 players over a QB in this draft?

Of the eight players I have ranked ahead of Trubisky I'd take all but Fournette ahead of him.

@londonbrown said:

1. Garrett

2. Foster

3. Allen

4. Mixon

5. Thomas

6. Lattamore

7. Hooker

8. Conley

9. Fournette

10. Kizer

11. Lamp

12. McDowell

You really like Foster - how would you set up our starting linebackers? And Kizer - that's an interesting pick for your first and only QB. Why do you prefer him?

@jiggins7919 said:

Ok, I'll play along. I'm going by player skill, not by team need.

1. Garrett

2. Thomas

3. Hooker

4. Adams

5. Fournette

6. Howard

7. Allen

8. Foster

9. Lattimore

10. D. Cook

11. Barnett

12. Trubisky

13. Ramcyzk

14. Reddick

15. M. Williams

So if you picked Garrett at 1 and Thomas was available at 12, that would be your pick. Even if Hooker and Adams are also available? Also, You would pick Cook rather than Trubisky or Williams? Why?

@darren15 said:

1 Garrett

2 Thomas

3 Adams

4 Hooker

5 Allen

6 Fournette

7 Lattimore

8 Foster

9 Howard

10 Barnett

11 Williams

12 Ramczyk

So you're really not into QB's in the first 12. Why would you take Barnett or Ramczyk (another lineman) over a QB?

@suomi said:

1. Garrett

2. Adams

3. Thomas

4. Hooker

5. Howard

6. Fournette

7. Allen

8. Latimore

9. Trubisky

10. Foster

11. Williams

12. Conley

I'd be happy with a Garrett & Conley first round haul.

So you would take any of those top 8 players over a QB in this draft?

More buzz than McCaffrey's refusal to "work out" at any of his private visits with teams, which has reportedly put off some franchises who were believed to have an interest in him.

@comeonman said:

I like Mixon, not sure that high. He should go 1st round but I think the 'incident' puts him way back. As far as his talent top four? Time will tell I guess. Wouldn't mind him slipping to our round 2 pick

He can do everything required of a back in today's NFL but off field stuff should see him slip out the first round. I can't see the Browns touching him.

@londonbrown said:

1. Garrett

2. Foster

3. Allen

4. Mixon

5. Thomas

6. Lattamore

7. Hooker

8. Conley

9. Fournette

10. Kizer

11. Lamp

12. McDowell

2. Allen

3. Adams

4. Thomas

5. Hooker

6. Lattimore

7. Foster

8. Howard

9. Conley

10.Williams

11. Fournette

12. Trubs

2. Foster

3. Allen

4. Mixon

5. Thomas

6. Lattamore

7. Hooker

8. Conley

9. Fournette

10. Kizer

11. Lamp

12. McDowell

1. Garrett

2. Thomas

3. Hooker

4. Adams

5. Fournette

6. Howard

7. Allen

8. Foster

9. Lattimore

10. D. Cook

11. Barnett

12. Trubisky

13. Ramcyzk

14. Reddick

15. M. Williams

2 Thomas

3 Adams

4 Hooker

5 Allen

6 Fournette

7 Lattimore

8 Foster

9 Howard

10 Barnett

11 Williams

12 Ramczyk

@tour2ma said:

Grouped by certainty of talent translating to NFL. Ordered within groups (clusters) by combination of need, positional impact and viable later options.

My Board
1a: Myles Garrett (DE)
1b: J. Adams (SS), S. Thomas (DE), J. Allen (DT), R. Foster (ILB), M. Lattimore (CB), M. Hooker (FS), OJ Howard (TE), H. Reddick (OLB)

1/2 Cusp: D. Watson (QB), M. Trubisky (QB),

2. Adams

3. Thomas

4. Hooker

5. Howard

6. Fournette

7. Allen

8. Latimore

9. Trubisky

10. Foster

11. Williams

12. Conley

I'd be happy with a Garrett & Conley first round haul.