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<p>The selection of DeShone Kizer by the Cleveland Browns was not made by a united front and could lead to a power struggle down the road.</p>
<p>The Cleveland Browns got a quarterback with the 52nd pick of the draft in Deshone Kizer from Notre Dame. While theres a lot of high-fiving and talks between fans and some members of the media thinking the Browns may have gotten a tremendous value in Kizer here, those in Berea likely dont see it the same way.</p>

<p>Not long after the selection was made, NFL Networks Mike Silver reported a curious quote:</p>
<p>This is incredibly revealing. First, it doesnt appear that this came from head coach Hue Jackson. But even if it did, the team is not united on the prospects of Kizers future. At the very least, the timing so closely after the selection is curious and certainly doesnt come off as an endorsement.</p>
<p>The analytics are not kind to DeShone Kizer. Hes an average athlete for his size and his production is equally average. Most of the positives from his profile are due to his size, both in terms of his overall build and the size of his hands.</p>


<p>Defenders of Kizer will point to the supporting cast and his head coach, suggesting that they prevented him from being successful enough to produce better numbers and more wins. Numbers dont care. Their unflattering and inflexible.</p>

<p>Kizers redshirt sophomore season was mediocre and his draft process didnt go much better. The Fighting Irish went 4-8 and his performance was wildly inconsistent from week to week and even within games. Kizers last year has a major disappointment, given his projected growth. Kizer should have stayed in college.</p>

<p>And on some level, people are overrating just how much damage a coach can do just as others are overrating just how much a coach can improve or fix a player. The truth is somewhere in the middle and the player is ultimately the player. Kizer wasnt good and getting away from Brian Kelly and Notre Dame, going to Hue Jackson in Cleveland isnt a panacea.</p>
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<p>In terms of becoming a Pro Bowl or better quarterback, Kizer is working on the fringes in terms of the odds relative to the entire history of the NFL at the quarterback position. Even in terms of making it to becoming a starter, Kizers odds arent terribly promising.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the other four prospects the Browns selected so far in this class are gems by the numbers. All four of them have the metrics to suggest they can be longterm starters and potentially become Pro Bowl players.</p>

<p>Kizer is the lone prospect that doesnt fit that trend, going completely in the other direction from a metric standpoint and sticks out like a sore thumb. It stands to reason that the front office was pushing for another player and it would be fascinating to know who that player is, especially if they ultimately become a great player elsewhere.</p>

<p>That quote to Silver likely indicates that the members of the front office that believe in the numbers arent on board with Kizer as anything other than a shot. They effectively let Hue make his pick, take the guy he wanted and are willing to let him see just how good he can become.</p>
<p>This potentially causes some problems both this coming season and may cause cracks in the organizational foundation of the franchise that lead to major problems down the road. Based on his college career, Kizer has no business seeing the field as a rookie. He should sit for the entirety of his rookie season and perhaps longer.</p>
<p>That becomes a problem if the Browns find themselves in position to take another a stud quarterback in the 2018 NFL Draft class. Currently, the Browns have a pair of first-round picks and three second-round picks for that group, so they are poised to be in great position to select a quarterback  unless one of their current passers vastly exceeds expectations.</p>
<p>In the event the Browns are staring a good quarterback prospect in the face, are they going to pass on him for the sake of Kizer? If the front office sees a franchise caliber quarterback prospect by the numbers, theyre obviously going to want and push for that player. Jackson is then put in a position where he may have to defend Kizer and in effect, his role within the organization.</p>
<p>Both Jackson and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams have personnel input written into their contracts. Jackson got the guy he wanted in Kizer and effectively did it on his own, seemingly going on an island for Kizer.</p>

<p>This could lead to major problems after this coming season and potentially lead to a power struggle. On some level, the same argument people are having over analytics and the value of it outside the organization is now taking place within it. Unlike Robert Griffin III, who was also firmly Jacksons pick, this one cost a significant draft asset and presents the problems next year in the draft when they are still searching for a franchise quarterback.</p>

<p>For the time being, many fans and the media have hope in Kizer, but if its ultimately revealed theres a division within the ranks of the Cleveland Browns organization between the front office and coaches, Kizer is a significant symptom. The fact the Browns are not a united front behind the selection of Kizer, even just minutes after the selection, should be extremely concerning.</p>


<p>This is very supportive of this being purely Hue Jackson being Hue Jackson the QB Whisperer.</p>

<p>Fool us once with RG3, Fool us twice with Kizer...</p>

<p>PFF has him ranked as the 17th best passer in the class.</p>

<p>this is a link to some advanced stats aswell</p>
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<p>All combined with the fact he actually scored WORSE the Cody Kessler as an athlete.</p>

<p>Thad Lewis 2.0 welcome to Cleveland</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/topic/46702/division-in-the-browns-over-kizer</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2026 22:41:28 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://brownsboard.com/topic/46702.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:50:04 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Mon, 01 May 2017 00:41:51 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/westside-steve" aria-label="Profile: westside-steve">@<bdi>westside-steve</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703957">said</a>:</p><div><p>Unless coach Jackson has his back. Will 4 and 12 be enough progress? 5 and 11? And as far as next year as quarterback class being as good as expected, well, it never is is it? Last year Watson was going to be the next Andrew Luck.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>Never? No. Rarely? Not quite. Infrequently? Close enough... and there's a difference between hype and assessment.</p>

<p>The team record will be the last thing Hue or or FO will use to evaluate our QB(s). Hue will back whomever best executes his offense.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/704046</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/704046</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 01 May 2017 00:41:51 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:12:53 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703935">said</a>:</p><p>If the 2018 QB class ends up close to its preliminary billing, then we are going to have to have one of our rostered QBs exceed even his most ardently optimistic backer's expectations here to not be in the QB market next year.</p></blockquote>
<p>Unless coach Jackson has his back. Will 4 and 12 be enough progress? 5 and 11?  And as far as next year as quarterback class being as good as expected, well, it never is is it? Last year Watson was going to be the next Andrew Luck. </p>

<p>WSS</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703957</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703957</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Westside Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:12:53 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:04:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703935">said</a>:</p><div><p>If the 2018 QB class ends up close to its preliminary billing, then we are going to have to have one of our rostered QBs exceed even his most ardently optimistic backer's expectations here to not be in the QB market next year.</p></div></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>True....but, I just don't think that will happen.  Osweiler is a step ahead of Brandon Weeden, imo.   Kessler is the second coming of Paul McDonald.  And Kizer...too raw, too unknown...and will NOT be able to be properly evaluated before the draft next year. He is a bench jockey for now.</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703952</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703952</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:04:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:31:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>If the 2018 QB class ends up close to its preliminary billing, then we are going to have to have one of our rostered QBs exceed even his most ardently optimistic backer's expectations here to not be in the QB market next year.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703935</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703935</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:31:50 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:44:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>But if we aren't in the market for a quarterback next year-and we suck for the 3rd year-in a row this administration will most certainly be on their way-out the door. And probly Kizer with them. </p>
<p>And we'll have pissed away a two first round season in which we could have had one.</p>
<p>WSS</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703903</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703903</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Westside Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:44:10 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:34:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/ghoolie" aria-label="Profile: ghoolie">@<bdi>ghoolie</bdi></a> said:</p><div>

<p>Van Broklin was asked what he thought of Tarkenton.................he replied " he's great if you like 3'd and 20" (something very close to that)</p>

<p>Tarkenton was a bitch for the better NFL teams. He played in a weak part of the league which put the Vikings in championship games automatically. In those games, the ones that matter, he was a fucking catastrophe. Did he pass for a lot of touchdowns and yards? Yep. SO did his superior, Vinny Testeverde. So I guess Vinny is going to the HOF too? Tarkento was so goof, the Vikings traded him to the Giants, who then got sick of his shit and sent him back to the Vikings.</p>

<p>Finally, when the Vikings were rid of him, when Joe Capp started, the VIkings finally won a championship.</p>

<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>Uh no. For accuracy sakes actually....Joe Kapp took the Vikings to their first SB....and lost to the underdog Chiefs.  That is when the Vikings got Tark back...and he took them to 3 more SBs.  Now, he lost to the Steelers, Raiders and Cowboys.....but he did get there 3 times.</strong></span></p>

<p>Deshone, DeShaun, DeShit, DeFran...................... it's all the same fucking thing. Run first quarterbacks all suck. There will never be a 'Tarkenton" white, black or Sumo that is going to amount to a pile of donkey shit in the NFL.</p>

<p>Can Kizer overcome himself and his poor coaching? Sure he can. Human beings are capable of amazing things. But the chances of this happening? They are about the same Zomblow as a woman not laughing at you when you take your panties off.</p>

<p>Kizer is a 1 dollar lottery ticket, and nothing more. By all means, support him, cheer him, but dude, don't fucking talk football as if the guy has all the tools and smarts of a classic NFL draft pick like Mitch HOF bound Trubisky.</p>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>Oh....I for one am NOT really counting on Kizer to be the future of this team honestly, any more than I am counting on Kessler.  Brock Osweiler may turn out to be better than both.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>But...the possible unfortunate thing about taking Kizer is that it may mean that the Browns will not be in the market for a QB in next year's first round.</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>(Which...to me means that it will STILL be a long time before we actually get a quality franchise QB on this team.)</strong></span></p>
</div></blockquote>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703896</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703896</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:34:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:28:30 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/topdawg31" aria-label="Profile: topdawg31">@<bdi>topdawg31</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703411">said</a>:</p><div><p>we're going to need a decent back up for next year's QB</p></div></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>Projection:   The Big B.O. starts.  Kessler backs up. Kizer is a lady in waiting.   That is perhaps the way it should be.</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703895</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703895</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:28:30 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:27:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/tour2ma" aria-label="Profile: tour2ma">@<bdi>tour2ma</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703382">said</a>:</p><div>

<p>I keep reading that Kizer is "inaccurate", but... he's a career 60.7% passer with a 148 rating and a 2.5:1 TD to INT ratio... and that's after a "bad" 2016 season on a bad team.</p>


<p>And you've had plenty of company in that opinion, Ag...</p>
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<p><strong><span style="color:#800000">Compared to the other top QB prospects I think 60% is low.  MT and others had about a 69%  completion rate.   And I know MT had a much better  TD to Int. rate....though I don't think that Mahomes...with all the risks he took, nor Watson had a much better TD/Int ratio than Kizer.  Perhaps worse even.</span></strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703894</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703894</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:27:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:18:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p><strong>hate the kizer pick BUT also thought the cowboys picking prescott was whack.</strong></p>

<p><strong>not all of us 'genious' fans know everything about everything, unless of course, you wanna know about pussy..........</strong></p>

<p><strong>just sayin. #'s in da book.</strong></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703557</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703557</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[miktoxic]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:18:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:07:34 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Fat ass you just called a guy who has yet to play a single snap in the nfl who only played like 13 college games for North Carolina no less, hall of fame bound. If you had any credibility you would have lost it right there. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703551</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703551</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Cysko Kid]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:07:34 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:51:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/diehardbrownsfan" aria-label="Profile: diehardbrownsfan">@<bdi>diehardbrownsfan</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703191">said</a>:</p><p>So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.</p></blockquote>
<p>Without the accuracy and with the bad attitude. </p>

<p>Shit.</p>
<p>WSS </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703520</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703520</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Westside Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:51:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:51:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/diehardbrownsfan" aria-label="Profile: diehardbrownsfan">@<bdi>diehardbrownsfan</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703191">said</a>:</p><p>So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.</p></blockquote>
<p>Without the accuracy and with the bad attitude. </p>

<p>Shit.</p>
<p>WSS </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703519</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703519</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Westside Steve]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 20:51:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:38:13 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Pretty bad article. Clearly agenda driven. Not worth putting much stock into.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703485</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703485</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TheOllieC]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:38:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:40:32 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/hoorta" aria-label="Profile: hoorta">@<bdi>hoorta</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703409">said</a>:</p><div><p>I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much. <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=75b6de7bacf" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" title=":slightly_smiling_face:" alt="🙂" /></p></div></blockquote>

<p>The latter does not preclude the former...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703449</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703449</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:40:32 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:59:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/hoorta" aria-label="Profile: hoorta">@<bdi>hoorta</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703409">said</a>:</p><p>I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much.  <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=75b6de7bacf" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" title=":slightly_smiling_face:" alt="🙂" /></p></blockquote>we're going to need a decent back up for next year's QB]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703411</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703411</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[TopDawg31]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:59:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:56:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/cambridgeho" aria-label="Profile: cambridgeho">@<bdi>cambridgeho</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703314">said</a>:</p><p>Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.</p></blockquote>
<p>I'll take 1st best in 2018, over 4th best (some had 17th best) in 2017 any time. Thank you very much.  <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=75b6de7bacf" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" title=":slightly_smiling_face:" alt="🙂" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703409</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703409</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[hoorta]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:56:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:18:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/boo-fagley" aria-label="Profile: boo-fagley">@<bdi>boo-fagley</bdi></a> said:</p><div><p>Kizer is known for his feet.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>1000-yds in two seasons gets you "known" today?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703384</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703384</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:18:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:16:48 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/cainedesoulis" aria-label="Profile: cainedesoulis">@<bdi>cainedesoulis</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703271">said</a>:</p><div><p>But hey maybe Kiser does what no other QB has done before and gets more accurate in the nfl and plays great and the whole world says "wow that was statistically unlikely as hell! Glad he worked out."</p></div></blockquote>

<p>I keep reading that Kizer is "inaccurate", but... he's a career 60.7% passer with a 148 rating and a 2.5:1 TD to INT ratio... and that's after a "bad" 2016 season on a bad team.</p>

<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/texasag1969" aria-label="Profile: texasag1969">@<bdi>texasag1969</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703250">said</a>:</p><div><p>Well I have been of the opinion all along to build this D and forget the QB in the weak class.</p></div></blockquote>

<p>And you've had plenty of company in that opinion, Ag...</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703382</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703382</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Tour2ma]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:16:48 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:43:38 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/diehardbrownsfan" aria-label="Profile: diehardbrownsfan">@<bdi>diehardbrownsfan</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703191">said</a>:</p><div><p>So Ghoolie was right again, we took black Tarkenton.</p></div></blockquote>
<p><span style="color:#800000"><strong>Again, I hope so.....Tarkenton only took his team to 3 Super Bowls, and  at one time he was the most prolific passer in NFL history until he got surpassed by guys that came after the rules to aid the passing game and making it harder on defenses came along.</strong></span></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703345</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703345</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:43:38 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:16:16 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/cambridgeho" aria-label="Profile: cambridgeho">@<bdi>cambridgeho</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703314">said</a>:</p><div><p>Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>Different strokes for different folks.....that will never change.....</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703316</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703316</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:16:16 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:14:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Is noone ever happy? We dont draft a qb, people bitch. We draft the 4th best rated in the 2nd round people complain. </p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703314</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703314</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[cambridgeho]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:14:45 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:50:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/cainedesoulis" aria-label="Profile: cainedesoulis">@<bdi>cainedesoulis</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703293">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Any explanation on why this pick does not Follow any of the patterns that the browns have drafted in the previous drafts then?</p>

<p>Kizer is an anomaly when the data is compared side by side.</p>
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<p>Um....what patterns....this FO has one previous draft under its belt and they have repeated that...almost exactly....</p>

<p>Trade back in the first....use that to pick a questionable player at a position we dont desperately need.....then burn a top round pick on a less than good QB prospect....whats different?</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703295</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703295</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:50:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:45:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/mudfly" aria-label="Profile: mudfly">@<bdi>mudfly</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703283">said</a>:</p><div>
<p>Cmon man....Hue doesnt pound tables and the FO wouldnt defer to his choices(if he did).....completely ridiculous....this is on Shashi and Depo...</p>

<p>And yes...I agree 100% that Hue is no talent evaluator....which is why Im certain<em> </em>he's not the influence that pushed this pick thru.....</p>
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<p>Any explanation on why this pick does not Follow any of the patterns that the browns have drafted in the previous drafts then?</p>

<p>Kizer is an anomaly when the data is compared side by side.</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703293</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703293</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[CaineDeSoulis]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:45:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Division in the Browns over Kizer? on Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:26:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/cainedesoulis" aria-label="Profile: cainedesoulis">@<bdi>cainedesoulis</bdi></a> <a href="/post/703271">said</a>:</p><div><p>Hue Banged on the table for Rg3 and then he banged on the table for this kid outta ND well hopefully it won't cost him hia job. I still think Hue is a pretty good O Coordinator. His Talent evaluation is pretty questionable though.</p></div></blockquote>
<p>Cmon man....Hue doesnt pound tables and the FO wouldnt defer to his choices(if he did).....completely ridiculous....this is on Shashi and Depo...</p>

<p>And yes...I agree 100% that Hue is no talent evaluator....which is why Im certain<em> </em>he's not the influence that pushed this pick thru.....</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/703283</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/703283</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mudfly]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:26:02 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>