@suomi said:

I would say Joe is overrated but again he's not a star

@tour2ma said:

... or option 3... trolling.

Trolling? Not on our wholesome, Christian forum.

I'd take 11 JJ Watts on defense and be happy to annually lead the league in fewest points allowed.

As far as the most overrated star I'd have to throw our very own Joe Haden into the mix. Following a season where he was anointed as one of the league's best shut down corners and rewarded with a huge contract reflecting that skill he hasn't been on the field enough to make a positive impact, let alone live up to his contract. His injuries have also apparently affected his play as he has only been a shell of himself when he's on the field. I love the guy and I sport his jersey on Sundays, but a star in the league he is not.

@londonbrown said:

"there's no Andrew Luck in this draft" is in reference to him coming out of college not what he's done in the NFL.

@calfoxwc said:

I don't think Ben is overrated. Look how bad they are without him. He might not be pin-point accurate but I think of him as a top 5 qb in the league. Off the top of my head only Brady (ughh) and Rodgers are the only ones I would take over him.

@mudfly said:

My overrated stars would be Eli Manning and Andy Dalton.....

and, instead of JJ Watt, how about his counter part Clowney....?....

Clowney is still considered by many to be a bust, so how can he be an overrated "star". I think most have an optimistic outlook on him though as he has shown flashes, but he needs to show he can stay healthy. He is a big name because of his measurables, but nfl star, not so much.

@mudfly said:

I'd have Manning as the most overrated football player but the star thing has me going elsewhere. Has Eli done a commercial without Peyton? And that is a serious question, not being sarcastic.

and, instead of JJ Watt, how about his counter part Clowney....?....

@furious-styles said:

Cam Newton instead? At least he took his team to a Superbowl.

In fact, in the history of football drafts, the following players who were #1 overall picks at QB are the ones that have taken their team to a championship game:

Joe Namath AFL draft

Terry Bradshaw

Jim Plunkett

John Elway

Troy Aikman

Drew Bledsoe #

Peyton Manning

Eli Manning

Cam Newton #

Each of these players won a title except those marked # whose team lost in their only title game appearance (so far..in Newton's case)

@westside-steve said:

Andrew Luck.

The perennial go to guy for the argument that so and so is no andrew luck.

WSS

Also overused,"there's no Andrew Luck in this draft".Really ? What ever reason/excuse people want to use, Lucks not who I would reference for #1 sure fire success until I've actually seen it.

... and pssst... those Colts won two of their last three games...

@boo-fagley said:

Ghoolie is the King. Never be another.

I'd say that was confirmation...

@broncolurker said:

Houston basically sacrifices the players around him so he can get the stats.

League history is full of Defensive stars that that were so great their "freelancing" was green-lighted...

@westside-steve said:

Psst When they won a single game they were sandbagging. Remember?

WSS

Tell that to Curtis Painter.

@boo-fagley said:

JJ Watt

His picture is on milk cartons after big games. Showboat, dancing, Herman Munster, look at me axxhole in regular season games. Hey Dipshit, you are getting paid millions to go out and make plays. Cant stand watching a Texans game because the commentary drones on ad naseum about his life and what he had for breakfast.

If I am not mistaken, Ford Motor company builds a Texas pickup truck so his beloved fans can drive around Houston worshiping this clown.

Texas edition pick up trucks have been around far longer than JJW.

@tiamat63 said:

Who in the shit is dumb enough to say JJ Watt?

With a backup of Andrew Luck. The kid that took a 1 win team to the playoffs his rookie year before a dearth of weapons and Oline play got him killed.

Psst When they won a single game they were sandbagging. Remember?

WSS

With a backup of Andrew Luck. The kid that took a 1 win team to the playoffs his rookie year before a dearth of weapons and Oline play got him killed.

@boo-fagley said:

Pearls of wisdom from the most overrated poster on the board.

@boo-fagley said:

Dude... with shit-stirring like that you have to be a Ghoolie alt...

I don't think Flacco really qualifies. Well at least not to me. I never viewed him as a star to begin with. A more apt QB would be Eli in my opinion. At WR, I'd have to go with Sammy Watkins. I wasn't a big fan of him coming out of college so I might be a tad biased but I think still think he's overrated. I really can't think of any RB's or TE's who fit the bill. I guess you could throw in Jimmy Graham but I still think he's solid. Maybe not other worldly as he was in NO but you still have to account for him.

I still don't quite understand how Luck has made this list. He has T.Y and a bunch of other small-ish receivers, a shitty line, a shitty D, and little to no run game. The fact that, when healthy, he's been able to get the Colts to the playoffs is rather impressive. For those calling him a overrated, I highly doubt you'd pass up the opportunity to see him in a Brown's uniform.

Dak, in my view, is in the Russell Wilson, is he really that good conundrum after Wilson's first year. Wilson has proved he belongs but Dak still has some work to do. Zeke still has work to do as well. If he has a slow start this year, the questions will start popping up. Granted, throwing a first year player into this topic isn't necessarily fair either.

JJ is overrated as a spokesman but not as a football player. His biggest sin is that he's just fucking annoying. We get it, you work out.

@boo-fagley said:

At least I have a rating.

You would be among the UDFAs around these parts.

And all I am saying is that JJ Watts injuries helped the team you allegedly root for...Patriots.

Do you not think that game would not have been a closer contest with him in there?

It was a one score game until the mid 4th quarter no? Watt would have made no difference?

Then...if you say a superior DE makes no difference in a game, then why were all these people on here all become Homo Erectus over our #1 draft pick?