<![CDATA[Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive]]>I can't quite figure out why they hired this clown. He makes Ray Farmer look competent. . .

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/05/browns_hire_ryan_grigson_forme.html

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/46897/browns-hire-ryan-grigson-former-colts-gm-as-senior-personnel-executiveRSS for NodeFri, 02 Oct 2026 22:07:48 GMTWed, 24 May 2017 23:04:41 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Mon, 29 May 2017 13:56:51 GMT]]>Gotta say, no matter what this guys resume is, it's not as if we hired him to be our GM or make big decisions.......its a group thing here......so, just a small piece of a much larger puzzle(albeit, a fairly unimpressive one)....

Peter principle is something Ive spoken of many times here.....and a fall back to the position that got you promoted in the first place is probably a good thing......

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708893https://brownsboard.com/post/708893Mon, 29 May 2017 13:56:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Mon, 29 May 2017 13:37:10 GMT]]>My Browns' SB is in late October... in London!

@hoorta said:

It goes back to what I opined earlier Tour. OK, given that Grigson sucked as a GM. Can't say how much of those bad decisions were Irsay's doing. But- if he's a "supposed" super scout- you mean to tell me as GM, he was just signing off on what his underling scouting department was telling him? Like yeah- OK guys- you're saying this kid is going to be good so we'll draft him? Didn't bother to a least take a casual look at the guys who were potential first three round talent himself and form an opinion?

Doesn't make me feel any better about the hire- though there's nothing I can do about it, except hope Berry knows something I don't.

So you think a "casual look" is enough? C'mon, man... And there's no need to bring Irsay into it.

You show me the greatest scout in the history of the game, and if all the does is continue to "scout" after being made GM, and I'll show you a GM that will fail.

GM vs. Scout... yes, there's overlap, but there is so much more to being a GM.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708883https://brownsboard.com/post/708883Mon, 29 May 2017 13:37:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Mon, 29 May 2017 12:03:12 GMT]]>Ray Farmer hire was universally applauded on here, so the wait and see option is the one to take!

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@tour2ma said:

. I doubt we have any way of judging his scouting expertise. Just have to trust Andrew Berry on this one.

From the laboratory of Gumland..Grigs got scouting start in 98 CFL-Saskatchewan. next season 99 landed as scout in Arena League-Buffalo. Grigs landed with Rams in 99-03 as scout. Rams win SB in 99. Rams NFC Champs in 01. Grigs arrives in Philly as scout in 2004-05.Eagles win NFC Champ & SB appearance in 04. Grigs promoted with Philly to director of college scouting 06-09.Director of player personal in Philly 2010-11 than off to Colts..I tell you all this^^ to tell you this..Get your SB tickets now. The Browns are now favorites to win division and/or SB this season. This would be Grigson's 3rd team as a NFL scout in his 1st season with team that won a Title..it's his after in scouting,that is not so good

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@tour2ma said:

Cleveland Browns have Terry Talkin' (Grigson) -- Terry Pluto (photos)

Posted on May 27, 2017 at 7:42 AM

By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer

terrypluto2003@yahoo.com

ABOUT RYAN GRIGSON

The Browns have not hired Ryan Grigson to be general manager. That's Sashi Brown, who runs the football operation.

Nor is Grigson the player personnel director. That's Andrew Berry.

A former Indianapolis Colts general manager (2012-16), Grigson was named senior personnel executive.

I asked around about what Grigson will do. He is under Brown and Berry. In fact, Grigson used to be Berry's boss with the Colts.

Grigson had a spotty record as a Colts general manager. He made the disastrous Trent Richardson deal with Joe Banner in 2013. Unfortunately, that 2014 first-rounder was used in the Johnny Manziel deal.

Banner was gone by the 2014 draft. Richardson and Manziel are out of the NFL. That trade hurt Grigson's reputation.

The Browns plan to use Grigson almost like a super scout. He will look at pro and college players. He will even visit some colleges to research prospects. He spent his first 14 years in the NFL as a scout, and the Browns believe that is his strength.

It goes back to what I opined earlier Tour. OK, given that Grigson sucked as a GM. Can't say how much of those bad decisions were Irsay's doing. But- if he's a "supposed" super scout- you mean to tell me as GM, he was just signing off on what his underling scouting department was telling him? Like yeah- OK guys- you're saying this kid is going to be good so we'll draft him? Didn't bother to a least take a casual look at the guys who were potential first three round talent himself and form an opinion?

Doesn't make me feel any better about the hire- though there's nothing I can do about it, except hope Berry knows something I don't.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708734https://brownsboard.com/post/708734Sun, 28 May 2017 19:04:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Mon, 29 May 2017 01:18:06 GMT]]>I made an anti Grigson crack earlier in this thread that, after thinking about it, I would take back if I could. Let's give Grigson a chance here. After all, he is NOT the GM here and, as Tour stated, the "Peter Principle" may have come into play. Another factor is that I trust Sashi et al to continue to make what appear to be solid decisions.

Remember Holmgren?...Fine Coach, but very poor track record once he "moved up".

Mike

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708678https://brownsboard.com/post/708678Mon, 29 May 2017 01:18:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Sun, 28 May 2017 14:58:08 GMT]]>Grudgingly Andrew Berry seems to have found his new groove hanging around the Harvard firm? Gotta start somewhere with Berry cause I did not like his hiring..Mine probably is more personal knowing Bobby Vega from NC.Bobby Vega was hired by Berry as VP of college scouting last year. Knowing Bobby he will not like someone else sticking his nose into his business? If these college picks workout I can't say I don't blame him..It also could go the other way if Grigson eats his pride & is willing to take a step back in work relations..Gotta Hope

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708677https://brownsboard.com/post/708677Sun, 28 May 2017 14:58:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Sun, 28 May 2017 14:32:57 GMT]]>All GM "production", or misdeeds, gum... I doubt we have any way of judging his scouting expertise. Just have to trust Andrew Berry on this one.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708671https://brownsboard.com/post/708671Sun, 28 May 2017 14:32:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Sun, 28 May 2017 14:14:32 GMT]]>Am I missing something here? Xplane to the millions 😛 What Grigson has brought to any organization that awards him such a dubious honor? Besides a A. Luck.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708668https://brownsboard.com/post/708668Sun, 28 May 2017 14:14:32 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Sun, 28 May 2017 13:44:47 GMT]]>So it would seem...

I've said for a while that I love this FO's collective approach. It let's talent emerge and that talent's voice(s) grow stronger in the room rather than taking leap of faith after leap of faith in making extrapolated, top-of-the-pyramid hires only to see them pratfall face-first...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708665https://brownsboard.com/post/708665Sun, 28 May 2017 13:44:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Sun, 28 May 2017 13:24:23 GMT]]>Hiring people with a proven talent and asking them to focus on just that skill.. rather than promoting them above their talent level?

It's almost like the Brownies are becoming sentient..

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708660https://brownsboard.com/post/708660Sun, 28 May 2017 13:24:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Sun, 28 May 2017 13:09:01 GMT]]>Cleveland Browns have Terry Talkin' (Grigson) -- Terry Pluto (photos)

Posted on May 27, 2017 at 7:42 AM

By Terry Pluto, The Plain Dealer

terrypluto2003@yahoo.com

ABOUT RYAN GRIGSON

The Browns have not hired Ryan Grigson to be general manager. That's Sashi Brown, who runs the football operation.

Nor is Grigson the player personnel director. That's Andrew Berry.

A former Indianapolis Colts general manager (2012-16), Grigson was named senior personnel executive.

I asked around about what Grigson will do. He is under Brown and Berry. In fact, Grigson used to be Berry's boss with the Colts.

Grigson had a spotty record as a Colts general manager. He made the disastrous Trent Richardson deal with Joe Banner in 2013. Unfortunately, that 2014 first-rounder was used in the Johnny Manziel deal.

Banner was gone by the 2014 draft. Richardson and Manziel are out of the NFL. That trade hurt Grigson's reputation.

The Browns plan to use Grigson almost like a super scout. He will look at pro and college players. He will even visit some colleges to research prospects. He spent his first 14 years in the NFL as a scout, and the Browns believe that is his strength.

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@canton-dawg said:

The Berea barista?

Hey... gotta start somewhere...

My Tourachinos are awesome...

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@texasag1969 said:

You may get that dream job in Berea after all. ❗

Keep up the good work Tour. 😁

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@vikingdawg said:

Or maybe it could be Vikingdawg has an opinion of his own and sees things a different way then all the shit talkers who cannot fathom that some people have no desire to lick Sashi and Hues assholes clean all day every day.

Maybe....but...nah...not likely!! 😛😁

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@vikingdawg said:

Truer words have never been spoken. Ever. This sums up this Front Office to a tee.

That cliches it...

Ignore #3 coming right up...

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@the-gipper said:

OK, Gools.....but you should be flattered, it seems that Viking Dawg is doing an homage to you.....or maybe Viking Dawg is just a Single White Female?

single-white-female.jpg

Or maybe it could be Vikingdawg has an opinion of his own and sees things a different way then all the shit talkers who cannot fathom that some people have no desire to lick Sashi and Hues assholes clean all day every day.

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@ghoolie said:

The entire FO is comprised of coffee fetchers.

Truer words have never been spoken. Ever. This sums up this Front Office to a tee.

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@ghoolie said:

Dude...................... Give the shit a rest. I have NEVER even thought about an alternative screen name, other than when it was an over the top...obvious joke that even the fucktards here could plainly see was SNL genre parody................

FOR INSTANCE........................I might post as FATASS JOE THOMAS................... would there be anyh doubt? AND.............. I wouldn't alter my writing style..............

That the guy agrees with me and has picked up on my poignant euphemisms is not anything new. Plenty of people here have incorporated coffee fetcher, OL are a dime a dozen, fatass OL, Black Tarkenton and other wisdom that always comes to the top as truth once the seasons unfold.

I am iconic on this board. I am the most distinguished, respected, known, revered, respected, and hated poster that has ever graced a sports board, and for sure, I am iconic on TBB. Tour2ma.........has an Avatar that he thinks is the "negative Ghoolie".......

People come in to my threads and post VOLUMINOUSLY how they never read me, and are glad I am on ignore. Hell, I don't start 1/10 the threads you do, and yet, I am still too much for some of these bukake collectors. WTF do I need another screen name for? I am already alive in most of what is posted here.

OK, Gools.....but you should be flattered, it seems that Viking Dawg is doing an homage to you.....or maybe Viking Dawg is just a Single White Female?

single-white-female.jpg

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@tour2ma said:

All I know is I just had to get up and get my 2nd cup myself...

You may get that dream job in Berea after all. ❗

Keep up the good work Tour. 😁

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@texasag1969 said:

Have we maxed out our quota of coffee fetchers this year? 😛

All I know is I just had to get up and get my 2nd cup myself...

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708163https://brownsboard.com/post/708163Fri, 26 May 2017 14:10:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Fri, 26 May 2017 14:03:47 GMT]]>Have we maxed out our quota of coffee fetchers this year? 😛

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@wargograw said:

This guy might quite literally be a coffee fetcher.

Oh, no! Not another alt!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/708135https://brownsboard.com/post/708135Fri, 26 May 2017 12:58:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Browns hire Ryan Grigson, former Colts GM, as senior personnel executive on Fri, 26 May 2017 03:37:23 GMT]]>Y'all should freak out about this a little more. This guy might quite literally be a coffee fetcher.

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