Been away from Wi-Fi for a while but I'm glad you didn't miss the opportunity to jump on the blame trump bandwagon.

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WSS

@calfoxwc said:

@mld-woody said:

Hahaha holy shit. Why am i such an asswhole? All that is missing is "latches on to personal attacks befacuse:

#woodylovesdick

@calfoxwc said:

...just personal bitch after personal bitch

because his emotions don't jive with reality. They get angry when they don't get their way,

when they can't dominate a discussion, when they can't get dissenting opinions banned...

and they resort to personal insults, starting responses of the same, then they cry that

they are "victims".

@mld-woody said:

@calfoxwc said:

force the redefinition that is false. me

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there isn't any freaking contradiction, tiamsies. You just ...feel that you want there to be.

"if the bulk..."... that is just a feeble, emotional outburst of nonsense. About half of America did NOT WANT

REAL: MARRIAGE REDEFINED. but liberal courts intervened.

People didn't decide to change what Real Marriage is,,, the liberals went to liberal courts and sued to force

the redefinition. Real Marriage has been Real Marriage forever and twenty-seven Sundays.

We've given many examples over time, of liberals trying to best the rest of America, and it doesn't matter what

issue it is, as long as liberals can get the upper hand.

mmgw-money control

control over our 2nd Amendment

" " 1st Amendment

control over our federal courts

control over our Supreme Court

control over our income...

control over our health care

control over the sanctity of Real Marriage

control over the life and death of newborn and unborn children

control over our thermostats...

how far we drive

fire pits in our backyard

Christian churches

conservative political groups (see IRS)

permanent control over our entire gov

control over our property

control over our security and lack thereof (see illegal immigration/gangs/violent illegals)

control over our military (see openly gay garbage, cut funding, cut benefits (see Carter)

and that is just off the top of my head.

liberals are a mentally unstable bunch, like tiamsies - just personal bitch after personal bitch

because his emotions don't jive with reality. They get angry when they don't get their way,

when they can't dominate a discussion, when they can't get dissenting opinions banned...

and they resort to personal insults, starting responses of the same, then they cry that

they are "victims".

@tiamat63 said:

Well said. I picture Cal as Tom Cruise's character from Born on the 4th of July screaming "love it or leave". Unfortunately he may never have the epiphany the character did.

@clevfan4life said:

hahahaha. OBF is covered in shame.

@logicisforsquares said:

That probably is the best solution.

@oldbrownsfan said:

I would plead guilty to that. At one time I didn't even like the idea of civil unions but hindsight being 20/20 that was the right compromise IMO. One of the reasons I was against civil unions though was that I was positive that would not have permanently satisfied the gay community and just be opening the door to gay marriage.

Government shouldn't be involved in a religious ceremony. I wish everyone just got civil unions and then leave marriage ceremonies up to individuals.

@oldbrownsfan said:

I would plead guilty to that. At one time I didn't even like the idea of civil unions but hindsight being 20/20 that was the right compromise IMO. One of the reasons I was against civil unions though was that I was positive that would not have permanently satisfied the gay community and just be opening the door to gay marriage.

Facepalm. Just facepalm.

@clevfan4life said:

I would plead guilty to that. At one time I didn't even like the idea of civil unions but hindsight being 20/20 that was the right compromise IMO. One of the reasons I was against civil unions though was that I was positive that would not have permanently satisfied the gay community and just be opening the door to gay marriage.

@calfoxwc said:

These two things are a complete contradiction.

If people have the right to define 'real marriage' and the bulk of people in this country don't give a shit about gays getting married... then what, I ask, is false?

Seriously, I'm out after this shit. While I might not agree with Woody or Cleve on a lot, at least they don't cause people to bash heads into walls.

All you do is spout off about "kneejerks" and "emotions" then say shit that is so completely self defeating that no it's no wonder you thrive on the kid gloves that is the sanctuary of this board.

You're a 4chan troll, you have to be. I've gone down the list of things and there's no fucking way a guy in his golden years is capable of these types of logical absurdities.

@calfoxwc said:

Then you've made my point that I'm not a liberal you fucking Retard.

At this point you HAVE to be trolling, there's no other explanation.

@tour2ma said:

see? what happened to your determination to do the period thing? I didn't know a man could have them.

See, you emotionally have it backwards -

people have a right to define Real Marriage, but the liberals used the liberal courts to force the redefinition that is false.

What happened to live and let live, eh?

Why wasn't civil unions good enough? ANSWER: because liberals couldn't screw over all those Americans who know

that Real Marriage is between a man and a woman.

Liberal contradicktions are glaring, and that is how liberals exist.

@tiamat63 said:

that is stupid, but you liberals emotionally use words incorrectly - it's the only way to justify your emotions. Nothing liberal

about being left alone to exercise your rights. Liberals don't leave people alone. They want to tax them over guns, "mmgw" farce,

tell them to lower their thermostats, they had the IRS harrass conservative groups, the liberal president smarted off

about gun owners, our Constitution, and Christians with their Bibles. (you think peaceful Muslims don't cling to their Korans?),

Being liberal is all about minding other peoples' business, fighting perverted Quixote windmill fights.

Being liberal is flipping what you think, anytime flipping is to your emotional advantage. Liberal is fighting to

get rid of capital punishment, because all life matters, and at the same damn time, fighting for the right to murder

unborn and born children. Being liberal is living on false narratives.

Liberals don't get it. They don't FEEL like it.

What is the current count of "traditional marriages" destroyed by "gay marriage"? There must be data by now...

@tiamat63 said:

I enjoy freedom, I guess that's just a crazy concept?

Freedom to cal is doing what him and his kind wants and we havebto abide. But they feel perfectly ok picking and choosing freedoms based on their own beleif structure. Thetes nothing american about them. It was people like him that drove people out of europe in droves centuries ago to come here

Again, the phrase "socially liberal" really means ' none of my fucking business'. The queers can be queer, the stoners can smoke, the gun owners keep their guns, etc etc. Everybody is happy.

I enjoy freedom, I guess that's just a crazy concept?

@logicisforsquares said:

no, no, no. it isn't one thing, it's a general trend, relating to issues based on emotion, most all the time. "social liberal conservative"

is worse than an oxymoron. Nobody always agrees on issues; liberals are consistently flipping their stances

as soon as flipping gets them what they want.

obamao was pro 2nd Amendment...pro-Real Marriage, etc etc etc. He emotionally vented...and or... LIED out his wazoo.

it is whatever gives them an advantage, then that is their take.

Like the dems warning reps to not use the nuclear option. What to the dems do? They use the nuclear option,

of course.

Then, when the reps control Congress, they demand that the reps not use the nuclear option.

and on and on it goes. Freedom of Speech - is REALLY IMPORTANT when they want it.

When conservatives want it... nope. Then there should be censorship. and consequences.

the msm and liberals everywhere went apecrap over Rush saying he hoped Obamao failed to transform

America.

all liberal hell broke loose - about how dare somebody hope America fails ,...etc etc etc etc etc.

yet, NOW...they are actively insisting/legislating/maneuvering/threatening/"investigating/obstructing

Trump, to make his agenda fail.

That trend of emotionally flipping on advantage (hypocrisy in action), is truly what makes a liberal.

Emotionally, they see nothing wrong with it, because that's how they feel. Principle gone out the window.

You've utterly lost it obf