@clevfan4life said:

Definitely a lot 4-man fronts in LA... as for what was behind them??? Do you want to emphasize alignment or size/natural position?

"Still have some" is the operative phrase. Our roster is distinctly less 3-4-ish, at least to my eye, than it was going into 2016 camp with its strength shifted from LB to DL... not that we were all that strong at LB last season. LOLB was a continuing question even after Collins stabilized ROLB. And then we traded Davis...

but you gotta bring it before you sing it.

I am satisfied that we finally have a DC who will put players in the best place for them to succeed, leading to far more accurate player evaluation & needs assessment.

Mike

@calfoxwc said:

too many fans great expectations blown up in their face only to realize we have another losing FO and coach.

but never listen to the guy behind the curtain. he only knows EVERYTHING.

Kinda lost in the offseason talk has been nassib. Hows he progressing? I wanna see weight room numbers going up

@poeticg said:

yeah like spittin watermelon seeds through gold teeth nasty? like don't come into my neighborhood whiteboy nasty? like jerk chicken pitbulls and bad breath nasty? yeah..............maybe.

now can any of them play friggin football?

this season is going to piss soooooooo many people off.

@one-post said:

To run the 3-4 you need personnel

To win in the NFL you need personnel.

What specifically suggests 3-4 personnel as opposed to 4-3?

@tour2ma said:

... and #1 says:

1. It won't be 4-3 based, and good luck labeling the front

"We'll play 4-3 and 3-4 in the same game," he said. "3-3, 3-2, 4-1, 4-2, Bear, big on five down, big on six down, big on more linebackers, little on more DBs and I have 42 packages of defense. ... How much we play those type of schemes or packages is based on the AFC North. It's based on what those offenses are pulling out there to play defense on and I'm almost not afraid to make sure all the other people have to work against a lot things I'm never going to call."

Gregg's clearly saying our D will be situationally determined... within games by game situations, but also at snap one by the nature of our opponent that week. However, our roster, deep in the DL and 2ndary in numbers, if not talent, and relatively light at LB certainly suggests that 4-man fronts will dominate. At least that's what I see.

What is it you see that says to you we have 3-4 personnel?

1. It won't be 4-3 based, and good luck labeling the front

"We'll play 4-3 and 3-4 in the same game," he said. "3-3, 3-2, 4-1, 4-2, Bear, big on five down, big on six down, big on more linebackers, little on more DBs and I have 42 packages of defense. ... How much we play those type of schemes or packages is based on the AFC North. It's based on what those offenses are pulling out there to play defense on and I'm almost not afraid to make sure all the other people have to work against a lot things I'm never going to call."

So your point is that you are incorrect "labeling" us as a 3-4?

Gregg's clearly saying our D will be situationally determined... within games by game situations, but also at snap one by the nature of our opponent that week. However, our roster, deep in the DL and 2ndary in numbers, if not talent, and relatively light at LB certainly suggests that 4-man fronts will dominate. At least that's what I see.

What is it you see that says to you we have 3-4 personnel?

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/01/gregg_williams_browns_defense.html

Look at #1.

@poeticg said:

I meant Ogbah... and Nassib too.

Pryor and Collins can play deep left and right. Pop the shit out of anybody going deeper than 10 yards. Force man press coverage on the WRs with Haden and Taylor.

Kirksey watches the middle and holds em up while these safeties pop out the ball. Taking shots. Then we rush Garrett, Shelton, Bryant and Orchard straight at the QB. We'll rotate the D-Line to keep em fresh and quick. Turnovers and Sacks baby!

@tim-couch-pulls-out said:

That's not really true.

"Tweener" recently carries a negative connotation because of some high profile LB/DEs who failed to perform. There are multiple examples of talented hybrid SS/LBs in the NFL.

Further, NFL defenses are rapidly evolving and incorporating scheme-fluid and position-fluid players. Williams has already stated our defensive players will be tasked with learning two positions.

www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/is-that-a-lb-or-a-safety-why-hybrid-players-are-part-of-a-growing-nfl-trend

@bigalow80 said:

Not a bad thought either.....and Williams is probably just the type of coach to find that out too

@unsympathetic said:

Could be that he responds better to our coaching... a pretty standard "hope" when acquiring an under-performing player.

@vikingdawg said:

Projecting again you AIDS riddled faggot? Off yourself already.

So I assume VD (apt abbreviation) got a time out...