The buzz this year is discernibly different. Our 2nd-year FO's draft was well regarded bringing a measure of respect to it in which Jimmah can bask. Basking breeds patience.

Both Chud and Pet were reaches for 2nd choices... or lower. Hue was a sought commodity that Jimmah "won". Winning breeds patience.

We are in new and different Jimmah territory. So long as we make progress, the patience will remain in place.

Us fans can think long term (or short term...depending on the situation). We think as if WE were the owners and coaches all rolled into one.

I actually agree. I'd like to see if Kizer is our man. For the exact reasons that you give. We have another bunch of picks for '18.

But you and I are NOT going to fire ourselves.

I know Haslam has been talking patience. But we all know how good his word is. (just ask Chud & Norv when he told THEM to be patient about the roster)

@one-post said:

If he does, it will bolster my optimism. Whether Kizer is THE guy or not, we have to know if he is the guy or not. Osweiller, Kessler, and whoever the hell else we have may indeed win a few games, but none of them have the potential upside Kizer has.

Let the kid fuck up. Put him in, and keep sending him back out. I imagine if Hue ever got a puppy, the first time it shat in its cage he would get a new puppy.

Find out what Kizer is made of. Test his emotional toughness............. test him by fire. I am okay with a shit season if at the end of it we know he is the guy, or if we need to get someone else. This team fucks around too much. Put the kid in and watch what he does.

Brock Osweiler; Sounds like an imported German Beer

Crisp Clear Bavarian Bier Brock Osweiler!

@elkdawg said:

You understand that they also gave us a 2nd round pick right?

@one-post said:

Game 2 or 3 if the OL is anything like last year.

On the other hand, if the OL is as improved as "they" say, we may see a better Kessler than we did last year with him not having to run for his life every snap.

@bob806 said:

It's not even Training Camp yet (starts tomorrow), so way too early . . . Indy has the biggest need if they want to compete (unless Luck gets healthy real fast), of course they may decide on a Tank job too for next year.

@browns52 said:

Not seeing that...

Is there a video involving clay pigeons? A big flag?

@browns52 said:

Maybe, we shall see.

I documented elsewhere where a few QBs came back from obscurity or perugatory to perform quite well...and even win titles: Plunkett, Warner, Young..a couple of others.

@tour2ma said:

But....only if your name is McGarrett when you say it.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Bitonio's a dumb fat fuck.

osweiler is brandon weeeeeeedone the 2nd....

"One said:

Kiser will start. Book it.

Book em Dan-O

@one-post said:

Kiser will start. Book it.

Someday...

@one-post said:

Gotta love an authoritative "book it."

@ghoolie said:

Only Kale chips for this bleeding heart liberal.

I hope that BO comes out looking like Bernie Kosar, that Kessler comes out looking like Brian Sipe, and that Kizer comes out looking like Cam Newton.

Cody really wasn't the same after his second concussion, and the numbers reflect that. He held onto the ball way too long (ranked 49th out of 50 in time to release the ball). Hopefully Cody is past all that, and hopefully he's going to take a step forward. After all, he had a couple of games we really should've won last year, and that was after playing when he had NO business being on the field. Zero reps, zero practice with the starters, and played pretty well despite the alarming circumstances. Now that he's had a full year of system knowledge, perhaps he can move the ball for us.

If he can't, I do not expect Hue Jackson to hesitate with tossing Brock into the fray. Despite playing for teams with superior defenses, Brock still owns a winning record and that has to count for something. He isn't historically accurate, but he does get the ball out much quicker than Cody (I believe he was ranked somewhere around 24 out of 50).

If Cody looks the part, and I suspect we'll know VERY early into camp, we may cut Brock loose if Kizer appears to be on the rise. However, given Cody's injury history, I can also envision a scenario where we do keep Brock on the roster. I actually like having him, and I think he's somebody that might be able to help us if we need him. I have no great expectations of him "lighting it up" or anything, but the guy has shown the ability to score some points and move the ball from time to time, and it might just work. Again, I think we'll know early into camp in terms of who will be starting for us. I don't expect the QB competition to last up until the 4th preseason game. I believe we'll know in 3 weeks.

@mld-woody said:

We got a free pick.

That will come in handy next year when we need help in the defensive backfield and punt return.....

WSS

WSS

@ghoolie said:

@mr.-make-believe said:

@texasag1969 said:

He may be better than he was in 2016.

But he sucked in 2015 too.