<![CDATA[QB]]>8 Hogan, Kevin QB 6-3 218 24 2 Stanford

6 Kessler, Cody QB 6-1 215 24 2 USC

7 Kizer, DeShone QB 6-4 233 21 R Notre Dame

17 Osweiler, Brock QB 6-8 235 26 5 Arizona State

Ultimately, we can only go as far as our QB can take us.

And the QB's abilities can be hampered by the players around him...OL, WR, TE, RB.

Who is our QB anyway?

Aside from Col. Hogan, an argument can be made for all of 'em. (Hogan makes the team only if one of the others gets hurt)

Kessler is the leader in the clubhouse....only because he played in the offense last year and wasn't terrible. (and, in theory, he was hand picked by the HC....although the HC seemed to lose faith in him in the latter part of the season)

Kizer is THIS year's draft pick. Had a really big season two years ago...but not as good last season. (lost a lot of players from the '15 season...team wasn't as good). Let's see if he's the answer so we don't draft one NEXT draft (or that we HAVE to draft one next draft) is the argument.

Osweiler is the veteran. His 5th season coming up. He's a TALL drink o' water....just the way I like 'em. Like Kizer, was pretty good a couple of years ago but not so much last season. Was it just a bad system that he was in last year?

If I were HC I would talk to the three of them individually and remind them that they were brought in here because talent was seen in them. I'd tell them that Kessler probably starts with the ball in his hand and maybe gets the chance to set the bar but that everyone can vault the bar by virtue of their work in the classroom and performance on the practice field.

I think the starting position is going to be a battle between Kessler and the Ostrich. I would have to assume that Kizer is going to be a typical rookie QB and struggle with the NFL game initially. But I've said it before, he's come to a good situation. The bar is not set all that high.

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]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/725780https://brownsboard.com/post/725780Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:11:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:06:37 GMT]]> Apparently Kessler is sliding down the ladder of success as Hogan has been named the backup.

I guess we shouldn't have trusted Hue on that one.

I wonder what Sashi is going to say the next time Hue asks to make a draft pick.  (if there IS a next time for him)

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/725778https://brownsboard.com/post/725778Fri, 08 Sep 2017 23:06:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Fri, 08 Sep 2017 12:55:26 GMT]]> Keesler for Hurns?

Grand Theft Sashi...

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@orion said:

Back down to 3 QB's as Josh Woodward has been released.  I guess we got all the info we needed out of him.

I think her was just here while we shopped Kessler for a receiver. No takers I guess. I really thought we might be sending him to the Jags for Hurns. 

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@stillmotion said:

We have to "trust hue" on kessler.

I trust him and our FO 100%. It's all part of the master plan.

Yeah. Kess IS the most familiar with the offense, could dink & dunk downfield & we do ave a long range kicker. I'm viewing it the same way...part of the "plan".

Mike

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@the-gipper said:

I think you are right I think Kessler is out of hereI think you are right I think Kessler is out of here

We have to "trust hue" on kessler.

I trust him and our FO 100%. It's all part of the master plan.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/725554https://brownsboard.com/post/725554Fri, 08 Sep 2017 00:43:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Thu, 07 Sep 2017 23:27:19 GMT]]> Back down to 3 QB's as Josh Woodward has been released.  I guess we got all the info we needed out of him.

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@texasag1969 said:

Kessler is worse than last year............."trust me". Just drop him. It was a shit pick just like any of us thought when they reached at least 2 levels to get him. They dropped 2 of those WR's so time to move on here too.

I think you are right I think Kessler is out of hereI think you are right I think Kessler is out of here

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@mudfly said:

I dont see that we have anyone who is trade bait....but Im sure they are investigating that as we speak......in the end, we'll have to waive one and hope we can slide him to the PS....

If it was me......Kessler would be the guy going......but since it's Hue and Shashi, Ill say it's Hogan who gets the ax.....and I think he'll get picked up before we can say practice squad.....

Kessler is worse than last year............."trust me". Just drop him. It was a shit pick just like any of us thought when they reached at least 2 levels to get him. They dropped 2 of those WR's so time to move on here too.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/724665https://brownsboard.com/post/724665Mon, 04 Sep 2017 14:17:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Mon, 04 Sep 2017 14:15:11 GMT]]> As hot as your "Jimmy The Mud" predictions were yesterday I hope ya cool off😉..Hogan all camp showed better than Cody against are own knowing squad. In Pre-season games though imo it was a toss-up between them both..Again just like Oz, 31 teams won't trade unless their deep in the Waiver Wire so the others will play are own waiting game..Andy Reid did not like losing Hogan last season & now KC GM is gone..Kessler seems stuck in his own Mud, while Hogan seems to be progressing forward..If a Trade? it maybe Hogan at this point.(Which this FO 😍)If a Cut? Me,I'd cut Kessler  

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@gumby73 said:

New Topic Here.....We now Have 4 QB's..OK, BB QB coaches😉..Who Ya got going WHERE? Does Kessler/Hogan go Home to any LA Teams/Oakland/49'ers/Jags/Jets/Ravens😛? What's your thoughts?  

I dont see that we have anyone who is trade bait....but Im sure they are investigating that as we speak......in the end, we'll have to waive one and hope we can slide him to the PS....

If it was me......Kessler would be the guy going......but since it's Hue and Shashi, Ill say it's Hogan who gets the ax.....and I think he'll get picked up before we can say practice squad.....

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@dick-mellon said:

Yes, well the typical rookie will be just that.

It's too bad that he is the best of all of them . . . .  well that is not too terrible but starting a rookie is always challenging . . . .

Who is his first opponent?  ummmmmm let me check . . . .  Oh it's those guys, well PIT's first team D has given up alotta yards in the preseason and have not looked all that great. 

Not too mention, rookie QB's had a field day against that D last season, I expect that trend to continue on opening day.

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@orion said:

I think the starting position is going to be a battle between Kessler and the Ostrich. I would have to assume that Kizer is going to be a typical rookie QB and struggle with the NFL game initially. But I've said it before, he's come to a good situation. The bar is not set all that high.

Yes, well the typical rookie will be just that.

It's too bad that he is the best of all of them . . . .  well that is not too terrible but starting a rookie is always challenging . . . .

Who is his first opponent?  ummmmmm let me check . . . .  Oh it's those guys, well PIT's first team D has given up alotta yards in the preseason and have not looked all that great. 

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@hempman said:

Kizer looked like crap and has always looked like crap. His pre-snap ability is so bad. He has no clue what he is doing out there. If the Browns wanted to at least to attempt to win, they would have kept Brock and tried, but we know they do not want to do that.

Found Brock Osweiler ^

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/723982https://brownsboard.com/post/723982Sat, 02 Sep 2017 13:41:16 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Sat, 02 Sep 2017 13:40:35 GMT]]> Kizer looked like crap and has always looked like crap. His pre-snap ability is so bad. He has no clue what he is doing out there. If the Browns wanted to at least to attempt to win, they would have kept Brock and tried, but we know they do not want to do that. I doubt Kizer last the season. I suspect Hogan will be given a chance in the season despite not being what Hue wants at the position.

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@orion said:

I don't mind being wrong.

Me neither... but more of a case that I've gotten used to it...

@orion said:

What I don't like is when I'm right and the team does the wrong thing ANYway.

BASTAGES!

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/723947https://brownsboard.com/post/723947Sat, 02 Sep 2017 04:07:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Fri, 01 Sep 2017 23:03:53 GMT]]> Ya gotta admit, it was looking good for a while there. 🙂  Then, on national TV, he looked like crap and Kizer didn't.  

I don't mind being wrong.  What I don't like is when I'm right and the team does the wrong thing ANYway.

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@orion said:

Well, on July 22nd I predicted that Brock would be our starter on opening day.

I can dredge up another "Nailed It!" meme for you if you like... 🙂

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/723886https://brownsboard.com/post/723886Fri, 01 Sep 2017 22:59:22 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Fri, 01 Sep 2017 22:49:42 GMT]]> Well, on July 22nd I predicted that Brock would be our starter on opening day.  It looked good for a while......but I guess there's not much of a chance of that now that he's been cut. 🙂

I also said that Kizer had come to a good situation for him to become the starter since the bar here was not set too high.  I hope Kizer becomes our 'answer' for our age old question, "Who will be the next GOOD QB in Cleveland since Bernie Kosar?"

It's possible that The Harvard Think Tank will go after a veteran QB once the final cuts are over.....but I think the greater possibility is that we stand pat.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/723882https://brownsboard.com/post/723882Fri, 01 Sep 2017 22:49:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to QB on Tue, 29 Aug 2017 17:12:38 GMT]]> Speaking of QBs...

Given Stafford's mega-deal, I think owners are going to have to revisit the idea of pulling QBs out from under the team cap... something they raised a few years ago at a league meeting.

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@the-gipper said:

Not so fast my friend.  The testator is not dead yet.

Ok how about now?

Here's my favorite quote from today's conference call:

And yes, I quoted myself, because most beat writers do not agree with this perspective and didn't report it was said. I was on the call and have the transcript.

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@the-gipper said:

Rule of Perpetuity:    The Browns....in perpetuity...will  be looking for a franchise QB.

That makes my perpetuity gland hurt.

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@texasag1969 said:

Does it feel like a perpetuity yet?😆

Rule of Perpetuity:    The Browns....in perpetuity...will  be looking for a franchise QB.

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