@sd_tom said:

Osweiler is the only qb on the roster that's won an NFL game.

Word from anyone who's been to camp says Kizer is not ready.

@medicineman said:

how much is your farm worth?

i bet he doesn't.

Word from anyone who's been to camp says Kizer is not ready.

@d-bone said:

just noticed you live in California ,that explains alot

@syd said:

Better, but keep working on it and you'll get there in no time.

@mudfly said:

Well our football friend, you just hit the head of the "nailed it"..Coach Huey is a damn good Camper...indeed

@d-bone said:

let's make it easy for you

Kessler has sucked all through camp and did not deserve first team reps (Jackson is a fool) and should be fired

kizer should be given every chance possible to show he can be are QB going forward

doe's that help ?

@the-gipper said:

in the shorts, mia. got Cutler for 10M plus possible 3M more in incentives..If we assume multi-able is 2..Mia. wanted Browns to pay more than half of 16M & Browns wanted Multi-able picks back(2?,3?) from Mia. a little murky at this point..MKC is on it

@gumby73 said:

I can't get that link to come up, though I see from the link it says something about the Dolphins interested in a trade for B.O. Fill in the blanks.

@gumby73 said:

Just read an account where trade talk opened with Fins wanting us to eat half Brock's salary and we asked for multiple picks... which is what linked article says...

Apparently it was a short call.

@medicineman said:

I don't want to sound to negative but you can bet the farm he will throw a pick on his first drive...

Pretty big talk with our farms...

@tour2ma said:

I hear ya. I haven't paid attention to Brock until we got him....so I'm quite anxious to watch him and see if he looks like a big gawk out there...or like a nfl QB.

There are certainly enough people who are saying he sucks.....but I'd like to formulate my own opinion on him based on what I actually see.

The Brock Osweiler Era officially starts Thursday when the Browns play host to the Saints in the first preseason game.

That era may be short-lived however, as Browns coach Hue Jackson said part of the reason he's starting Osweiler is because Cody Kessler and rookie DeShone Kizer need more playing time.

I think he means Kizer. I think he's relegating Kessler to afterthought status in his mind now. But hey, right now it's Brock's job to lose now. Two weeks into TC and Kessler's already lost the job. That leaves Kizer & Colonel Hogan.

I think (I'm doing a lot of thinking here, my head hurts) that Kessler only gets the job back if the Ostrich gets hurt.

Windows only get smaller in the NFL.

@tour2ma said:

And in the above linked Houston article is this:

The Brock Osweiler Era officially starts Thursday when the Browns play host to the Saints in the first preseason game.

That era may be short-lived however, as Browns coach Hue Jackson said part of the reason he's starting Osweiler is because Cody Kessler and rookie DeShone Kizer need more playing time.

Houston is having a little fun at our expense...

http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Browns-make-laughable-Brock-Osweiler-hype-video-11741726.php

@tour2ma said:

"And he wants to be your cock moisturizer salesman"-Seinfeld adaptation

@orion said:

I prefer ' leader in the clubhouse ' that way I can be drinking.

The thing I like about the Ostrich is that he's a tall drink of water. You can't teach tall. Will he be just a repeat of the RG3 experiment? Where ultimately we wasted time on a flame-out QB? - Knowing our luck.....

There's a point where the incremental height "advantage" of each added inch meets the declining "fluidity" and you end up in the realm of "gangly". That's where I see Brock. I can't think of a great QB who was 6'7 or taller, and there aren't many at 6'6.

Alcohol and ibuprofen were my two greatest allies in my playing days...

@d-bone said:

Actually, punctuation and coherent writing style would not have made this post any better. Some of the most intelligent people I have ever met spoke broken English, or very little English. Horrible grammar doesn't detract from a person's point.

In all honesty, I think the person who lacks polish is the one who takes time out his life to correct spelling and grammar, especially in a place designed to trade ideas.

That said, I can give you a more focused version of what the guy said. I am quite able to understand his points.

Kessler has already shown that he does not have what it takes. Hogan, and AssOiler also, we know are not the QB of the future. The only QB the Browns have who potentially could be the QB of the future is Kizer.

What the poster is rightly saying is, a smart coach sends a message.............. KIZER is our future. A smart coach gives Kizer the bulk of the reps and the commitment of the franchise.

Hue Jackson should be, and will be fired this year. He has no fucking clue of who his talent really is. SO he plays political correctness by playing the most experienced guy. That way, when AssOiler fails Hue has something to hide behind.............D'uh he looked the best.

Who the fuck cares who looked the best? YOu got 3 cocksuckers who can't play, and a young kid with a lot of upsides. KIZER shoudl be running the team............ doesn't matter how much he fucks up. Go 1 - 15 again for all I care.... But AT LEAST shoot for the moon for once. Always fucking playing it safe for fear of being blamed for failure.

Hue Jackson is the worst fucking coach in the NFL and the worst Browns coach in our history. Totally in over his head.

@syd said:

Some punctuation would've helped, but a coherent thought combined with punctuation would've actually made this readable.

@tour2ma said:

I prefer ' leader in the clubhouse ' that way I can be drinking.

The thing I like about the Ostrich is that he's a tall drink of water. You can't teach tall. Will he be just a repeat of the RG3 experiment? Where ultimately we wasted time on a flame-out QB? - Knowing our luck.....

I anxiously await our first preseason game. Can he move the team with the #1 receivers? What will Kizer look like in his first live action? And can Kessler shake off his scrimmage performance?

Our offense has a lot of questions to answer. Is our OL markedly better with the two new veterans? Will we be able to run the ball better? Has our WR/TE positions been improved over last year? Britt for Pryor and DeValve for Barnidge? Can Njoku perform like a 1st round pick? And of course, do we have a QB that's a worthy starter? - There's a lot we'll learn over the next few weeks. Hopefully it'll be positive and not forgettable.