@ghoolie said:

I didn't comment on that. I said Zombow wanted to ban the word PeePee.

Stan didn't ban the words because of me you blooming idiot. he did it as parody............a slap in the face to all you fukcing whiners who bother him endlessly with complaints. He made the board a fauhking Joke, you idiot. If the cuss words bothered him he would have either called me............. OR.............. banned me.

Jesus are you people dumb.

There may be some truth to this.  But it sounds like the impetus for this came not because of what is on the Browns Board, but from all the crapola that goes on in the Political Board.  It seems apparently, per Stan's comments, that certain people who claim to be rough and tumble individualists could not apparently handle a few minor rebukes.   Ergo, we have this. That is what I gathered from what Stan said....though I don't know because I generally do not participate in the cacophony over there.

@hoorta said:

Because every other word from a certain poster was gutter language. Take a bow.

I didn't comment on that. I said Zombow wanted to ban the word PeePee.

Stan didn't ban the words because of me you blooming idiot. he did it as parody............a slap in the face to all you fukcing whiners who bother him endlessly with complaints. He made the board a fauhking Joke, you idiot. If the cuss words bothered him he would have either called me............. OR.............. banned me.

Jesus are you people dumb.

@hoorta said:

Because every other word from a certain poster was gutter language. Take a bow.

And just Whoolie would that certain poster have been?

@the-gipper said:

It was Stan that instituted the changes, not Zombo.

Because every other word from a certain poster was gutter language. Take a bow.

@tour2ma said:

Yup... ball should have been ours at the spot of the recovery.

You are hearing more and more about officials not making close calls/ blowing whistles in change of possession situations so replay can sort it out. Of course that only works where replays are conclusive and can either "confirm" or "change" the (non)ruling on the field. Letting either a bad call or non-call "stand" is always going to be unsatisfying, but the percentages say that is a significant minority of replay rulings. Camera coverage is pretty damn complete for every game these days.

N.Y. (or whomever reviewed it) was way wrong on that and it was no stretch at all to see it was a lateral. More than enough evidence for the "overcall".

@ghoolie said:

Zombow wants to ban the word pee pee

It was Stan that instituted the changes, not Zombo.

@gumby73 said:

he possible TD return was dead due to whistle?

Yup... ball should have been ours at the spot of the recovery.

You are hearing more and more about officials not making close calls/ blowing whistles in change of possession situations so replay can sort it out. Of course that only works where replays are conclusive and can either "confirm" or "change" the (non)ruling on the field. Letting either a bad call or non-call "stand" is always going to be unsatisfying, but the percentages say that is a significant minority of replay rulings. Camera coverage is pretty damn complete for every game these days.

@wargograw said:

Schwartz is down at #43. Grade of 53.4 on the year. 

Gracias... Mitchell looked pretty good the plays where I focused on him Monday nite, but not so much in the opener vs. the Pats.

@wargograw said:

Mack, however, is back at the top of the center rankings. Highest grade of all OL. 

Not terribly surprising is it... but unless Julio and Sanu get back in the games PDQ that's going to change. Ryan was holding the ball longer vs. the Bills.

@tour2ma said:

Had forgotten about that... and the snap wasn't even close unless you count two-second late as close.

• Offensive tackle Shon Coleman was one of the few bright spots Sunday in the Cleveland Browns 31-7 loss against the Cincinnati Bengals. He finished the game with an overall grade of 86.3, the highest grade among all Browns’ players and the third-highest among all tackles in Week 4.
• With a tough matchup against the 29th-rated edge defender Carlos Dunlap, Coleman held his own, allowing three total pressures (all hurries) on 47 pass snaps. He has not allowed a sack since Week 1.
• Continually showing improvement, Coleman currently grades 18th among 68 qualifying tackles, with an overall grade of 76.4. His run-block grade of 81.5 currently ranks 18th as well.

I am feeling a father's pride...

If anyone still has full PFF access, I'd appreciate a note on where Schwartz lines up in the 68. I know last year he posted an 80.9 grade for the season.

Schwartz is down at #43. Grade of 53.4 on the year. 

@unsympathetic said:

We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

Zombow wants to ban the word pee pee

@hoorta said:

Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain. 

right on H, The women ref that blew the Skins Duke fumble blew this call by being out of position..Doubt 21-7 would have made any difference. but even with the whistle being blown..The possible TD return was dead due to whistle?..Now that pylon cam is possible, I got no clue why the down marker stick does not have a camera for LOS plays..The word "conclusive" in the rule book..Forgot the **'s with conclusive camera angle only..or it has no chance  

edit: this sucks

@hoorta said:

... they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain. 

Had forgotten about that... and the snap wasn't even close unless you count two-second late as close.

@unsympathetic said:

Feature article at PFF on Shon Coleman

• Offensive tackle Shon Coleman was one of the few bright spots Sunday in the Cleveland Browns 31-7 loss against the Cincinnati Bengals. He finished the game with an overall grade of 86.3, the highest grade among all Browns’ players and the third-highest among all tackles in Week 4.
• With a tough matchup against the 29th-rated edge defender Carlos Dunlap, Coleman held his own, allowing three total pressures (all hurries) on 47 pass snaps. He has not allowed a sack since Week 1.
• Continually showing improvement, Coleman currently grades 18th among 68 qualifying tackles, with an overall grade of 76.4. His run-block grade of 81.5 currently ranks 18th as well.

I am feeling a father's pride...

If anyone still has full PFF access, I'd appreciate a note on where Schwartz lines up in the 68. I know last year he posted an 80.9 grade for the season.

@hoorta said:

Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain. 

And when that clock ran out I was wondering why we didn't throw the red flag. Did we have one left to throw? And what was the official doing that is in charge of watching for that? League should fine him.

@tour2ma said:

So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either? Shmuckin' nanny state website...

You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

Finally got around to watching the tape Tour. Not only was that clearly a lateral (replay showed the ball didn't go one inch forward) the crack officiating crew blew a couple other calls. Was wondering why everyone was screaming "face mask" on the Bungle TD right before the half. Didn't see it- until I saw the replay. If you still have the tape, take a look. Downfield, one of our guys about has his helmet ripped off. Add in, (the announcers noted it) they missed a delay of game on Cinci big gain. 

@unsympathetic said:

We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

Haha, give this guy an emoji award or something! 

@ballpeen said:

It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

Hey Russ, it would be good to see ya while you're in town. Drop me a note where you'll be.

@tour2ma said:

So we can't type "Sheet" anymore either?

We can, in fact, still type "Browns."

@clevfan4life said:

I dont care what off says....did coleman really stop dunlap? I didnt see the fame but if he did, ill holler at my boy

You rang? FWIW I don't think that much of Dunlap, Shon handled him.

Apparently McCourty and Taylor are alternating weeks of good play.

And FG... smiel-goal... that call on the lateral cost us a spirit raising scoop and score. That throw was the very defintion of "lateral".

@ballpeen said:

It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

It was positively putrid Russ. Horrible bad. 

Hmmmm just maybe I'll head up again- wasn't planning on it though. 

@hoorta said:

Seriously guy- we got blown out by a mediocre team- at home. It's the closest I've ever come to walking out on a game early- it was a joke, a total embarrassment. 

It had to be pretty bad to watch.  I sold my seats to a buddy.  I hope he is still my buddy!  Heading up for next weeks debacle.

 Yep, Bright Spots!

@unsympathetic said:

3) Kindred has 8 runstops and an 11.3 runstop percentage, both leading all safeties in the NFL.  It appears we have a SS.

Actually we have two SSs and no FS, but the other one plays CF.