@tour2ma said:

You say that as if it's a bad thing.

Using metrics...wins & losses, I would say it’s a bad thing.

"These idiots pay me so much money to own this dumpster fire. I wonder how I can get them next? Maybe a puppy to look tough next to Swagger, who gives a crap."

@clevfan4life said:

Trading down and taking nassib and ogbah last year stick out in my mind. If that was hirtons call fine, but im highly incredulous about that

And drafting a million receivers didn't seem to work too well either

@tour2ma said:

Speaking of twist(ed)... HTF does last nite get worked into this?

Never underestimate the butthurt of some white people when they don't get their way.

1) Getting into Hollywood with the production of a new Adams Family movie with Hue Jackson as Black Uncle Fester

2) Getting his wife Dee to invite a woman friend over for a threesome

@unsympathetic said:

8 years isn't a history worth getting in a twist about.

Speaking of twist(ed)... HTF does last nite get worked into this?

So What Do You Think Is On Jimmy Haslam’s Mind These Days?

"Stay the course, Jimmah, stay the course... or you'll be sleepin' on the couch."

  I gave it four games to know where we're at...and we are in deep crap. The defense is getting frustrated, Kizer is not wiser, seems that the simple fundaments for him break down the instant he has to survey the field.I haven't even watched the cincy game yet - we went camping. But I heard enough on the radio coming home, to wonder why the (&)(*& he doesn't get throwing the ball away, looking off receivers, and how hard is it to throw the ball away and not get an intentional grounding penality. Did I hear that right? that is what was called?

   Every defense knows Hue will protect Kizer with the running game. So, he keeps running on first and/or second down, and they keep stomping the running game into the dirt. Seems like the Browns defense changed coverages to screw with cincy - except the Browns secondary confused themselves. Would have been better off keeping Haden to play vs A.J. Green.

   Kizer won't start getting it, if he ever does, by playing more now. Start Hogan next week. Name him the starter now. and, tell Hue to get an offensive coordinator. His play calling isn't fooling very many defensive players. Looks to me like the offense is flat outdemoralizing the defense, and the entire Browns fans collective watching the games.

  Personally, I would tell the players to win a game before trying to protest during the National Anthem, or better yet, do your protests  BEFORE or not at all.. But Hue is too nice, too much a players coach.

@syd said:

Shmucking pos was the only one to sit today I mean wtf after what happened last night

Fun fact: NFL players were not present on the field for the anthem until 2009.

There is NO history of players doing anything during the anthem until then -- because they were in the locker room.

8 years isn't a history worth getting in a twist about.

"The players were moved to the field during the national anthem because it was seen as a marketing strategy to make the athletes look more patriotic"

@londonbrown said:

It’s had one proper draft to date, if Jimmy (or fans) are judging this draft already then I don’t see how anything will ever change here. 

We dont know yet about this draft. Other decisions from last year and this year are def on the table for me

@londonbrown said:

He’s not blowing this FO up and nor should he. 

The coaching is another story. 

Please elaborate, you don't think h FO is heavily involved in the Sheet pile on th field??

@clevfan4life said:

The FO which has brought us below mediocre talent....should be out if the conversation? 

Why?

It’s had one proper draft to date, if Jimmy (or fans) are judging this draft already then I don’t see how anything will ever change here. 

@londonbrown said:

He’s not blowing this FO up and nor should he. 

The coaching is another story. 

The FO which has brought us below mediocre talent....should be out if the conversation? 

Why?

The coaching is another story.