As for Smith's choice... if he's traded he doesn't have one.

Restructure? How much of his $20mm would he be willing to give back for the possibility of not playing?

Again... talking plausibility, not inevitability.

@tour2ma said:

All part of the hypothesis...

• anything short of a SB win opens the door.
• KC's CAP situation.

put urself in Smith's shoes, if KC can't pay you...will you restructure or stand firm knowing they have leverage cause of Mahommes? He risks getting traded to, gulp, the Browns.....he'll settle for less to stay in KC bank on it. Or some guarantee that KC won't trade him to the Browns. KC has an elite defense and wr's that catch balls thrown at their dicks. He's not coming to Cleveland. 

@tour2ma said:

All part of the hypothesis...

• anything short of a SB win opens the door.
• KC's CAP situation.

Add C. Tell Timmy from Topeka Kan-butt, They had one more OL injury last week in KC.. The Great Camealla Erving may see OL duty soon...Run Alex Run.. for your FA life..long way to go for Santa Reid..  

@tiamat63 said:

Good point by Cleave in that - if the Chiefs have a deep playoff run or, incredibly enough, win the Super Bowl... would they move Smith?  

I suppose it would depend on how the playoff exit itself goes...

All part of the hypothesis...

• anything short of a SB win opens the door.
• KC's CAP situation.

@wargograw said:

A. Not quite. 

B. I thought you were talking about him out of college. 

No, when he was up for trade or FA, there was talk of bringing him here and i remember being all in for that. But people were like no thanks his arm is too weak...i was facepalming hard. Every game ive watched with him i it i see throws that make ne go back a couple years to those pwople, not just in cleveland, who thought he doesnt have an nfl arm. Im just wtf were those people going on about? Cause he cant throw it over a mountain?

@clevfan4life said:

When he went to KC werent those growing pains long behind him?

A. Not quite. 

B. I thought you were talking about him out of college. 

Just, no. 

@wargograw said:

Yeah, this fanbase definitely would have been patient through the growing pains of Alex Smith.... 

When he went to KC werent those growing pains long behind him?

@tour2ma said:

Clearly you are just ahead of your time...

Omg thank you...notice me senpai, right?

I suppose it would depend on how the playoff exit itself goes...

Anyway, not sure i want him now. He's been in the league 13 years and is getting 20m a year. Plus, the chiefs are a legit sb contender so they're not handing the team to mahommes anytime soon. He's 2-3 years "min" from being ready. Having him sit behind alex smith for a couple years is the perfect scenario for the chiefs and "they know it". Mahommes will backup smith prob till the last year of his rookie contract

@tour2ma said:

Gotta love a good influence pull...

As for the 3TE set... I only have eyes for Kelce... #BrownsBoardFantasy

Smith mentoring Kizer? Could not hurt...

The fallacy with my scenario is that Smith makes us better... much better... instantly. Not necessarily alone, but certainly with a couple other pieces on Offense. But at 33-yo, for how long? And if we made the move based upon not being sure about Kizer after maybe two good years on one side or the other of the playoff threshold and drafting in the 20's, how do we emerge?

I understand the relief the fan base would feel, but the potential for subsequent regression might further erode the base.

That said a couple years of QB fishing in Days 2 and 3 might turn up a sustainable contingency to Kizer.

OK Tour- I can almost buy what you're selling. You know how I feel about Kizer. He needs to improve about 100% to just be average. I hope he can, but I'm not counting on it. Me and the Ghoolster have been having (believe it or not) a sane discussion of our QB problem on FaceBook. His 0.02? A switch to Hogan, we start winning games sends Hue the "Not QB Guru" packing. Of course, if Kizer keeps stinking up the place, we finish around 2-14 will IMHO send Hue out the door too, move over, say hello to Williams as HC. Keep playing on this level, we'll be damn lucky to win two games. Maybe getting Garrett, Shelton, and Collins back will make a difference on defense- we'll see.   

Can't see us swapping 1st round picks with KC- one of our second rounders should do it. ++++ right now, the Browns are solidly in the running in the Darnold Derby (or Josh Allen). Four teams 0-4, we have more ammunition than any of them. 

Hey, I'm not hoping for a miracle turnaround- but this is year two. Let's see some progress. I can't put all the blame on Deshone- but Hue can't just keep trotting him out there to finish up when he's having another bad (make that horrendous) game. Um Hue, he's statistically the worst QB in the NFL- hope you realize that- the fans sure do. 

As for the 3TE set... I only have eyes for Kelce... #BrownsBoardFantasy

Smith mentoring Kizer? Could not hurt...

The fallacy with my scenario is that Smith makes us better... much better... instantly. Not necessarily alone, but certainly with a couple other pieces on Offense. But at 33-yo, for how long? And if we made the move based upon not being sure about Kizer after maybe two good years on one side or the other of the playoff threshold and drafting in the 20's, how do we emerge?

I understand the relief the fan base would feel, but the potential for subsequent regression might further erode the base.

That said a couple years of QB fishing in Days 2 and 3 might turn up a sustainable contingency to Kizer.

Of course this still does not cure Hue into using his inexperienced QB properly, but the FO can't fix that.

PS-Would I also like to add Smith as the QB for Kizer to learn from? You bet! He is one very smart QB who knows exactly what defenses are trying to do against him. He don't need no Hue.

PS again-How did you like that 3 TE formation KC used for the TD?

And another PS-best play I saw was the pulling RG coming across the formation making the keying LBs go to their right as the cutback runner went through the hole opened by the vacated RG. Genius!

Thought about it some and I think the one year remaining on his deal keeps the price "reasonable"... maybe swap 1st rounders? Could have been the Texans' 1st, but they're don't seem to be cooperating like they were.

While normally I'd be vary of that kind of price for a one-year contract, but the use of the tag does get you a second year for $22.6.

We will throw in 2 of our dazzling WRs of your choice for free.

That having been said - interesting theory.    Provided Smith doesn't retire and, of course, Hue is retained.