@nero said:

I was waiting for this comment, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Yes...you could anticipate it....because its true!

@the-gipper said:

Because colonoscopies and prostate exams are infinitely more exciting than watching soccer.

I was waiting for this comment, hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

@nero said:

I guess if you can talk about colonoscopies and prostate examss, but not about soccer, it makes soccer worse than a colonoscopy? What kind of criteria is that?

Because colonoscopies and prostate exams are infinitely more exciting than watching soccer.

@texasag1969 said:

Well I would hope it's just a colonoscopy.

Colonostomy... it's in the bag...

@canton-dawg said:

The worst part is drinking the gallon of Gatorade laced with a laxative the day before.

Just had one... now have it down to two, 6-ounce or so solutions you down hours apart. Still not great tasting, but better, easier prep. One major, we-have-lift-off, blow out... followed by hours of peeing out yo a$$...

Cool thing this time was I weighed in before and after the prep...

Turns out I'm not nearly as full of Sheet as many here think I am...

@jiggins7919 said:

We definitely have free safety issues, and I think that's what makes Tashaun Gipson's comments so frustrating. While he's not a dominant force in Jacksonville, he's still much better than anything we have, and the fact that we don't even HAVE a free safety in our roster is absolutely unforgivable. ESPECIALLY considering the previous draft was known to be very deep at that particular position. Beyond frustrated. 

We don't need no FS. We got our own centerfielder. Problem is he just can't catch.

@tour2ma said:

We still have FS issues as well as versatility issues at LB contributing to Pass D woes as well. Vs. DET Kirksey seemed far less effective in pass D than I've seen him. But, yes, a dominant pass rush makes up for a lot of shortcomings. We just don't have the horses yet to generate consistent pressure.... no ying to MG's yang.

Then there's the whole "since we do stop the run teams have to pass" thing...

But don't look at Phoollie... you'll go blind.

So exciting losses were better?

I get it... the promise of being in games... of pulling games out at the end does bring a sugar high and that can be satisfying in the moment... especially when you are starving as we are now. But the great crash of 2014, plus what followed in 2015, left me feeling more empty than what I feel now.

Going to see if I can take 5 more pages of nay-saying crap...

We definitely have free safety issues, and I think that's what makes Tashaun Gipson's comments so frustrating. While he's not a dominant force in Jacksonville, he's still much better than anything we have, and the fact that we don't even HAVE a free safety in our roster is absolutely unforgivable. ESPECIALLY considering the previous draft was known to be very deep at that particular position. Beyond frustrated. 

@texasag1969 said:

And use more than one flavor of Gatorade. I still can't drink that Frost kind. Now tastes horrid.

I used that lemon flavored packet the first time. Didn't bother the second. Try gargling a shot of Jack first. Shot o jack, chase with a pint of go juice....repeat til gone. They told me the first time that I got dehydrated and should drink. Second time was better...lol

@flyingfooldoug said:

The test itself is painless and easy. Drinking the gallon of poop juice the day before sucks. My advice on that. Padded toilet seat. Tv in bathroom. Don't go anywhere farther than 15 seconds away from your bathroom. 

And use more than one flavor of Gatorade. I still can't drink that Frost kind. Now tastes horrid.

@the-gipper said:

Something like that....where you gotta drink like a gallon of dreck...they have they shove what amounts to a pipe up your aersehole....from what I understand.

I know a few of you have probably had it done.

The test itself is painless and easy. Drinking the gallon of poop juice the day before sucks. My advice on that. Padded toilet seat. Tv in bathroom. Don't go anywhere farther than 15 seconds away from your bathroom. 

@the-gipper said:

Something like that....where you gotta drink like a gallon of dreck...they have they shove what amounts to a pipe up your aersehole....from what I understand.

I know a few of you have probably had it done.

The worst part is drinking the gallon of Gatorade laced with a laxative the day before.

My colonoscopy was scheduled at 7:00 am, and I was getting coffee at McDonalds by 7:45 am.

Nothing to it.

@the-gipper said:

Something like that....where you gotta drink like a gallon of dreck...they have they shove what amounts to a pipe up your aersehole....from what I understand.

I know a few of you have probably had it done.

I guess if you can talk about colonoscopies and prostate examss, but not about soccer, it makes soccer worse than a colonoscopy? What kind of criteria is that?

@texasag1969 said:

Well I would hope it's just a colonoscopy.

Something like that....where you gotta drink like a gallon of dreck...they have they shove what amounts to a pipe up your aersehole....from what I understand.

I know a few of you have probably had it done.

@the-gipper said:

I have a new lady doctor.  She is not totally unlike this....except she does button up more.  She didn't do a prostate exam....but she did schedule me for a colonostomy (sp?)  in January.

Well I would hope it's just a colonoscopy.

@clevfan4life said:

He was uncomfortable with a woman checking his prostate? Wtf was wrong with him? Can u imagine hiw "on the ball" men would be with their prostate checkups if their proctologists looked like this?

I have a new lady doctor.  She is not totally unlike this....except she does button up more.  She didn't do a prostate exam....but she did schedule me for a colonostomy (sp?)  in January.

@tour2ma said:

Well... I can loan you some...

... optimism that is...

I'll even throw in the knowledge that I dropped ~$5k on a London loss... of course that also got me to 10 wonderful days in France... on the wife.

So, you were "on" her the whole time?  

And you didn't even take a trip to Rutland.

@texasag1969 said:

Reminds me of a guy I was in a carpool with once. He told me he went to a female MD and during the checkup she insisted she needed to check his prostate which he said was uncomfortable letting a woman doctor do. I said, "So let me get this straight. You'd rather have a guy with his finger up your butt than a woman? Sit on the other side of the car buddy!"

lol... similar story here, but I was the wise-butt...

After the check I asked her, "Was it good for you, too?"

Never took an appointment of mine again...

@texasag1969 said:

Reminds me of a guy I was in a carpool with once. He told me he went to a female MD and during the checkup she insisted she needed to check his prostate which he said was uncomfortable letting a woman doctor do. I said, "So let me get this straight. You'd rather have a guy with his finger up your butt than a woman? Sit on the other side of the car buddy!"

Get a boyfriend Cleve.LOL!

He was uncomfortable with a woman checking his prostate? Wtf was wrong with him? Can u imagine hiw "on the ball" men would be with their prostate checkups if their proctologists looked like this?

@clevfan4life said:

Brownie points tho can be squiireled away for a rainy day. Has the wife ever given u the "forbidden entrance"? 

Reminds me of a guy I was in a carpool with once. He told me he went to a female MD and during the checkup she insisted she needed to check his prostate which he said was uncomfortable letting a woman doctor do. I said, "So let me get this straight. You'd rather have a guy with his finger up your butt than a woman? Sit on the other side of the car buddy!"

Get a boyfriend Cleve.LOL!

@mark-o said:

I don't need to score brownie points with my wife.   And she watches football.  All day on Sunday...every Sunday.

Brownie points tho can be squiireled away for a rainy day. Has the wife ever given u the "forbidden entrance"? 

@clevfan4life said:

Its the jags so might as well tivo figure skating so at halftime u can score brownie points with the wifey by switching over. Hey Honey lets watch 8 people in a row do the same Sheet to diff music

I don't need to score brownie points with my wife.   And she watches football.  All day on Sunday...every Sunday.

@mark-o said:

I'll find some optimism in time for the game Sunday....we'll see how long it lasts during the game.

Its the jags so might as well tivo figure skating so at halftime u can score brownie points with the wifey by switching over. Hey Honey lets watch 8 people in a row do the same Sheet to diff music

@mark-o said:

 This level of losing shouldn't happen and something has to change. 

Nobodys disagreeing with u on that point. But us guys that have paid attention to the defense and can see pieces falling in place with a DC that's honestly done a he k of a job with major talent gaps at jey positions, we dont want to see that torn up and back to square 1. We've done this for like 8 straight years now. 

If haslem says we're getting a new HC but willuams has to stay....ok fine

@unsympathetic said:

Until then, somehow there's an open bottle of Glenlivet Nadurra right in front of me!

Never had it... less "peaty" than everyday GlenL? I don't appreciate peat. More of an Oban/Glenmorangie guy, myself.

@tour2ma said:

As we know you set a dashboard to measure progress... you don't stare at the bottom line waiting to see a change. Just the thing this thread (and more than a few others) end up being about.

And to create that dashboard we have to determine: First, what metrics to display.. second, for each metric: the numerator/denominator, the data source(s) to be used, and if that metric isn't gathered yet a specific number of data points to create the baseline from which we can measure improvement.  I like 8 data points minimum, 20 would be the engineered solution.  And once we have all that we need to determine how to report it.. I like showing the raw stats left-to-right and % change, using red/yellow/green in the same column as the %.

This forum can't even agree on how we could know we've finished the project, let alone tease out goals along the way that would show progress..

[Is it done when we draft a QB with next year's 1? Is it done when he throws 30TD's in a year because then he'd finally have WR weapons even though the record that season would of course be 5-11? Is it done when we have a RB who has 1100 yards who isn't named Peyton?]

Until then, somehow there's an open bottle of Glenlivet Nadurra right in front of me!