@stillmotion said:

Dude you're absolutely trolling at this point.

Has to be. Wentz and Co. wouldn’t look as they do now but the team would know what they had. Sashi could then hire someone to tell him what an NFL receiver looks like.

@the-gipper said:

I don't see them there:

Adam

Seth 

Cainan

Mahaleleel

Jared

Enoch

Mathusalem

Lamech

Naei

Japhett

Magog

Baath

Fenius Farsaidh

Niul

Gaedal Glas

Esru

Sru

Eber Scot

Beogamhan

Eogamhan

Tath

Adnoin

Lamh-finn

Eber Glun-Finn

Adhamhon

Febric

Ninnall

Nuadha

Allod

Arcadh

Degath

Bratha

Breogan

Bili

Miledh

Erimhon

Irial

Ethrial

Follanham

Tighernmas

Enmoth

Smirgoll  (maybe I will stop here....were it seems to come close to a Middle Earth lineage....and too close to being related to Smeagol.

But also in there are the likes of Finn McCool, LaBraid Loingsech and Brian Boru

Oh Bili and Ethrial-my bad.

@wargograw said:

Wentz, Goff, and everyone else would suck as bad as Kizer had we drafted them, so I'm glad we instead got Coleman, Coleman, and other ballers. 

Dude you're absolutely trolling at this point.

@logicisforsquares said:

The joke about Drango’s feelings is in reference to your trying to hen peck other grown men because they might hurt a professional athlete’s feelings, weak spine. Justin Gilbert is still waiting for you to posi post him into an average talent.

It isn’t just the record. They have Sheet the bed during the draft by pouring lots of picks into WR to no avail. They passed on several QBs, most notably Wentz, when they didn’t have to move at all to draft them. Hell, Sashi and Depodesta were just at a game scouting Rosen and Darnold when clearly they can’t ID QB talent. Neither one is a scout.

They may have something with Garrett if he doesn’t end up being perpetually injured but he was the consensus number 1. Even this FO could not screw that pick up.

Yeah I got the joke.

Get over it with the receivers. Coleman is going to end up at worst a WR2 and I think we can find 3-level performance from Louis next year. No exactly the worst thing ever. Regardless, you're talking about scrapping an entire FO because they missed out on 4 picks, three of which were 4th round and later. Absurd. Wentz, Goff, and everyone else would suck as bad as Kizer had we drafted them, so I'm glad we instead got Coleman, Coleman, and other ballers. 

@texasag1969 said:

Yeah, I think mythology is all wrong. Hell is gonna be close to absolute zero and heaven will be naked women on a Caribbean beach with Coronas on ice. I think I'm getting closer than you. BTW off to Hawaii in 2 weeks. LOL!

All of Heaven will sing hallelujah while the smoke of the whore's torment goes up forever and ever. Time to get right folks.

@texasag1969 said:

Obviously you missed the fine print on the bottom line. It says "Bert & Earnie"-not that there's anything wrong with that.

I don't see them there:

Adam

Seth 

Cainan

Mahaleleel

Jared

Enoch

Mathusalem

Lamech

Naei

Japhett

Magog

Baath

Fenius Farsaidh

Niul

Gaedal Glas

Esru

Sru

Eber Scot

Beogamhan

Eogamhan

Tath

Adnoin

Lamh-finn

Eber Glun-Finn

Adhamhon

Febric

Ninnall

Nuadha

Allod

Arcadh

Degath

Bratha

Breogan

Bili

Miledh

Erimhon

Irial

Ethrial

Follanham

Tighernmas

Enmoth

Smirgoll  (maybe I will stop here....were it seems to come close to a Middle Earth lineage....and too close to being related to Smeagol.

But also in there are the likes of Finn McCool, LaBraid Loingsech and Brian Boru

@the-gipper said:

I trace my lineage all the way back to Adam and Eve.   (its true)....so everyone is a relative of mine. 

Obviously you missed the fine print on the bottom line. It says "Bert & Ernie"-not that there's anything wrong with that.

@tour2ma said:

You married a relative?

And our solution to not being able to get cool outside in the heat? Staying inside... plus pools and lemonade... or a Shandy...

I trace my lineage all the way back to Adam and Eve.   (its true)....so everyone is a relative of mine. 

@tour2ma said:

Thanks... release time/ decision making is one of his areas of improvement I've seen. Today both Zeitler and Drango were beaten so quickly a couple times each that Kizer had no shot at getting the ball out.

Max protect? No idea... and doubt I'll do the OL grading/ tape review this week what with Thanksgiving and all here. I've had trouble getting into "study mode" even in full weeks this season.

Just spent two weeks in London/France. I think I saw three files and no skeeters... oh and one big butt spider. Same in prior trip to German, Austria, Italy... hell, no one even has screens on their windows. Although one big-butt bumble bee cam in an open skylight transom in Tuscanny.

What's up with the no bugs in Europe?

WWII? Then again WWI used a lot of gas. 

@flyingfooldoug said:

My wife freezes at 60. I'm balmy at 30. It's all relative.

You married a relative?

And our solution to not being able to get cool outside in the heat? Staying inside... plus pools and lemonade... or a Shandy...

@nero said:

I enjoyed reading that analysis. 

It's a pitty that I think he improved during the season in pocket and avoiding sacks (first 2-3 games he was awful on that) and today he stepped back on that area. There was a great D, but his timing should have been faster, although you can think that could lead to worse reads and less accurate throws. 

I haven't checked it during the game, but how many times did he have max protection? I mean, have we used tight ends to block? Tackles were getting owned and as you said not just Drango.

Thanks... release time/ decision making is one of his areas of improvement I've seen. Today both Zeitler and Drango were beaten so quickly a couple times each that Kizer had no shot at getting the ball out.

Max protect? No idea... and doubt I'll do the OL grading/ tape review this week what with Thanksgiving and all here. I've had trouble getting into "study mode" even in full weeks this season.

@flyingfooldoug said:

It's a beautiful morning here. No sun screen or bug repellent needed.

Just spent two weeks in London/France. I think I saw three files and no skeeters... oh and one big butt spider. Same in prior trip to German, Austria, Italy... hell, no one even has screens on their windows. Although one big-butt bumble bee cam in an open skylight transom in Tuscanny.

What's up with the no bugs in Europe?

@flyingfooldoug said:

My wife freezes at 60. I'm balmy at 30. It's all relative.

So you exchanged her for a penguin, right?

@mark-o said:

I had to put on socks yesterday...it was chilly last night...temp dropped below 70.

Damn I hope you got them on before frostbite set in.

@mark-o said:

Its not that cold dude...it was like 65...  

My wife freezes at 60. I'm balmy at 30. It's all relative.

@flyingfooldoug said:

Get some wool ones. They're the best. I always found it to be easier to stay warm outdoors in cold weather than it is to stay cool outdoors in hot weather. Swimming pools and lemonade excepted.

Its not that cold dude...it was like 65...  

@mark-o said:

I had to put on socks yesterday...it was chilly last night...temp dropped below 70.

Get some wool ones. They're the best. I always found it to be easier to stay warm outdoors in cold weather than it is to stay cool outdoors in hot weather. Swimming pools and lemonade excepted.

@texasag1969 said:

It was a chilly day here my friends. I had to put on a windbreaker to keep icicles from forming while walking in our near freezing 64F northern.

I had to put on socks yesterday...it was chilly last night...temp dropped below 70.

@texasag1969 said:

Yeah that damn Yankee R.Islander I married tells me while I'm shivering along on the walk, "It's the only decent weather of the year dear."

Now I'm the guy that thinks nothing of mowing the lawn in 100F in shorts and a T-shirt. That's either real heaven or else I'm just warming up for my future afterlife.

Ya, I put the dogs out in my boxers and a tee shirt.

Happy Thanksgiving week from NE Ohio!

@flyingfooldoug said:

And I can still go walleye fishing. Sorry about your rotten luck

Yeah that damn Yankee R.Islander I married tells me while I'm shivering along on the walk, "It's the only decent weather of the year dear."

Now I'm the guy that thinks nothing of mowing the lawn in 100F in shorts and a T-shirt. That's either real heaven or else I'm just warming up for my future afterlife.

@texasag1969 said:

It was a chilly day here my friends. I had to put on a windbreaker to keep icicles from forming while walking in our near freezing 64F northern.

And I can still go walleye fishing. Sorry about your rotten luck

@tour2ma said:

A SoCal kid doesn't need a football reason to not want to live in NE Ohio... past September...

It's a beautiful morning here. No sun screen or bug repellent needed. This is called football weather here. The dogs love it too.

@tour2ma said:

More like is stuck...stuck around a better level than he showed Games 1 thru 6 maybe, but with still a good ways to go.

Now this was a very good D today, maybe the best we've seen all year, but still...

One thing has been a constant all season is that his improved ball security in the pocket vanishes the second he begins to run. That is... his left hand comes off the ball with step one. Wasn't a factor in every fumble today, a couple were in the act of throwing, but a couple were due to this. The one that was scooped and should have been a score for the Jags was one example and there was a second that he ended up falling on and recovering himself.

Touch is another stuck area. While today he didn't really fastball anyone I can think of and even took a little off his TD to Duke (pass of the day), other "touch passes" were just inaccurate... and it seems the softer he throws it the less accurate it is. May be as simple as him aiming his off-speed stuff... something reps can cure. May be off-speed is just not natural to him... again reps can help here.

Pocket presence today was definitely not what we saw vs. the Lions... or Vikes. But again, may have been that D.

I enjoyed reading that analysis. 

It's a pitty that I think he improved during the season in pocket and avoiding sacks (first 2-3 games he was awful on that) and today he stepped back on that area. There was a great D, but his timing should have been faster, although you can think that could lead to worse reads and less accurate throws. 

I haven't checked it during the game, but how many times did he have max protection? I mean, have we used tight ends to block? Tackles were getting owned and as you said not just Drango.

@clevfan4life said:

Pussies,i love NE ohio seasons. Wut i hate are these slushy semi cold winters. It snows, then it melts in a day and turns to mud. When i was a kid we had right proper seasons......fukking global warming

I like the snow and ice. Biggest walleye ever come through Lake Erie ice. Can't sled ride on Cal mud and Ash. Skiing anyone? I've lived south. Screw the rattlesnakes, copperheads, black widows, cottonmouths, fireants, brown recluse and alligators. Northeast Ohio is cool and of course Cleveland Rocks!

WSS