@dutch-oven said:

Math isn't mik's strong suit.

Dude thinks a guy who bought the Browns in 1961 was the guy who integrated the NFL.

And his history is pretty bad too.   He thinks we fought the Civil War against Napolean. 

@the-gipper said:

No, not wrong.  He has said it himself on several occasions that he was a 49ers fan because of Joe Cool. And I am also not wrong about what constitutes his "youth".   He was born in 1982. I mean, its just a matter of doing the math and looking at a calendar.

Math isn't mik's strong suit.

Dude thinks a guy who bought the Browns in 1961 was the guy who integrated the NFL.

@miktoxic said:

wrong.....again.

ever been to findlay, OH? did your local HS team play against the 'lil giants. did you have fist fights in the streets during and after they left your town?

guess not.

No, not wrong.  He has said it himself on several occasions that he was a 49ers fan because of Joe Cool. And I am also not wrong about what constitutes his "youth".   He was born in 1982. I mean, its just a matter of doing the math and looking at a calendar.

@the-gipper said:

None of this is true.    His favorite team was the 49ers because of Joe Montana.

And the Browns didn't stink during his youth....depending on what you consider "his youth".   His youth was the 1980s...when the Browns were very good.  Later, in his teens basically, the Browns didn't play for 3 years. 

He didn't give a Sheet about the Steelers until they drafted him and paid him.

wrong.....again.

ever been to findlay, OH? did your local HS team play against the 'lil giants. did you have fist fights in the streets during and after they left your town?

guess not.

@sd_tom said:

Didn't Big Ben want to come to the Browns?

Yes.  And he was shocked when we passed on him.  He's got his revenge as he's the winningest QB at our stadium.

Dee on the warpath

Gee, why would anyone associated with ownership be on a warpath?  Can anyone think of a reason?  Or a dozen reasons?  Or perhaps it's because the football community is once again laughing at the Browns organization......and this time not the inept play of the team but the ineptness of the suits and ties.

Another epic failure considering we chose Winslow Jr. over him. 

@dawg2fan said:

Roethlisberger refused to come to Cleveland.  The Steelers was his favorite team (growing up) and he was happy to be drafted there.  More than likely because the browns stunk during his youth. 

None of this is true.    His favorite team was the 49ers because of Joe Montana.

And the Browns didn't stink during his youth....depending on what you consider "his youth".   His youth was the 1980s...when the Browns were very good.  Later, in his teens basically, the Browns didn't play for 3 years. 

He didn't give a Sheet about the Steelers until they drafted him and paid him.

@dutch-oven said:

This is feeling like the end of the Butch Davis reign, where he passed on Roethlisberger because a 35 year old Jeff Garcia was signed in a panic move to save Butch's job.

Roethlisberger refused to come to Cleveland.  The Steelers was his favorite team (growing up) and he was happy to be drafted there.  More than likely because the browns stunk during his youth. 

@londonbrown said:

She absolutely should be on the warpath, straight to her husband asking why he's quitting on a four year plan after 1.5 years and listening to a head coach that keeps Shmucking up on quarterbacks

I have a feeling it was about the FO. At the end of the 1-31 experiment, I think the FO and/or the head coach will be gone. Between Hue’s red zone play calling and the FO having apparently only rated WRs on Madden, I really don’t know who needs to leave first. They should probably carpool.

@jiggins7919 said:

Now, it really seems like "Cousins or bust" in 2018. We don't want a rookie because we don't have freaking time to develop him. Our front office and coaching staff HAVE to get better NOW. 

This is feeling like the end of the Butch Davis reign, where he passed on Roethlisberger because a 35 year old Jeff Garcia was signed in a panic move to save Butch's job.

@darren15 said:

Trying to get a draft pick out of Sashi is like trying to prize the ring away from Golom

I'd be all for that if he could pick legit talent

http://www.cleveland.com/budshaw/index.ssf/2017/11/panic_contradiction_and_incomp.html