@canton-dawg said:

Did Brock Assoiler get hurt? Or is he just sucking worse than usual?

Lynch may now be healthy enough to play....and at 3-7 what do the Broncos have to lose by playing him and seeing if he is worth what they used to pick him with.

@canton-dawg said:

Did Brock Assoiler get hurt? Or is he just sucking worse than usual?

He's sucking, but now we get to see if Ghoolie's Paxton Lynch predictions are accurate or not.

@stillmotion said:

Speaking of Ghoolie, his boy Paxton Lynch is starting this week.

Did Brock Assoiler get hurt? Or is he just sucking worse than usual?

@bob806 said:

Call me dumb then.

I don't have season tickets and go to the game, tailgate, etc. hoping for draft position. I go to see our Browns compete and win. Always will.

I fully understand that, doesn't mean it isn't dumb. If you want to see a playoff Browns team, having the number one draft pick is going to help that more than anything else

@tour2ma said:

No... you can't... at least you cannot be sure that you can.

Maybe not...but I'd still rather see wins

@mark-o said:

We have enough Shmucking draft picks if we need to move up to #1 to get a QB, we can do that.

No... you can't... at least you cannot be sure that you can.

@bob806 said:

Call me dumb then.

I don't have season tickets and go to the game, tailgate, etc. hoping for draft position. I go to see our Browns compete and win. Always will.

I agree.   Wins are what the team and city need.   We have enough fucking draft picks if we need to move up to #1 to get a QB, we can do that.    We don't need to draft higher....we need to draft smarter.

@londonbrown said:

Our fan base is dumb if they would give up the number one pick now for a 2-14 record.

Call me dumb then.

I don't have season tickets and go to the game, tailgate, etc. hoping for draft position. I go to see our Browns compete and win. Always will.

@bob806 said:

Count me out on the "we."

WTF man, I want my team winning. Our fan base is getting dumb.

Our fan base is dumb if they would give up the number one pick now for a 2-14 record.

@hoorta said:

LOL, I'll let Ghoolie own that one. I have to wonder what sort of odds Vegas is giving the Browns now to go 0-16.

Speaking of the next Black Tarkenton, I give you Lamar Jackson.

Great minds think alike.. I couldnt agree more...

@mark-o said:

Every big time college program wants Chip Kelly.   Would be shocked if he doesn't end up somewhere this year.

The two names I heard this morning associated with him was Florida and UCLA.

But you are right.

@dutch-oven said:

Rumor is that they are going after Chip Kelly, which would not be a good fit for Rosen.

Every big time college program wants Chip Kelly.   Would be shocked if he doesn't end up somewhere this year.

@hoorta said:

I'm pretty much numb to the losing, but the the Jags game was especially irritating...  

I don't want 0-16, but the parade is going to happen if it does....   

we should have a parade if they go owen 16.. They deserve to be ashamed of themselves.. the entire organization from Jimmy and dee.. right down to the water boy... I would love to see that piece of history shoved right into there smug faces.. And they should be constantly be reminded of just how shitty they were,,, They let the entire franchise and city down with unacceptable , putrid play...

@mark-o said:

Darnold isn't even the best college QB in LA...that is Josh Rosen.   I don't think Darnold is coming out anyways.  I would bet nearly anything that Rosen comes out especially with the coach fired yesterday.

Rumor is that they are going after Chip Kelly, which would not be a good fit for Rosen.

@bob806 said:

I hear you. All the losing is taking it's toll. It seems 95% of all the chatter is "Fire this guy, fire that guy," or "Draft this guy, draft that guy."

4-43 will do that to us. 3-13, 1-15, 0-10 last 3 seasons. 38-116 since 2008. 

And some people want 0-16 and some stupid-butt PARADE for 0-16. THAT IS DUMB, STUPID. SORRY I"M EFFING YELLING IN CAPS

I'm pretty much numb to the losing, but the the Jags game was especially irritating...  

I don't want 0-16, but the parade is going to happen if it does....   

@bob806 said:

I hear you. All the losing is taking it's toll. It seems 95% of all the chatter is "Fire this guy, fire that guy," or "Draft this guy, draft that guy."

4-43 will do that to us. 3-13, 1-15, 0-10 last 3 seasons. 38-116 since 2008. 

And some people want 0-16 and some stupid-butt PARADE for 0-16. THAT IS DUMB, STUPID. SORRY I"M EFFING YELLING IN CAPS

It's kinda funny, mostly sad. I'm near the pa line. If I were to go to a Walmart on the Ohio side Sunday afternoon, it'll be packed. Go to a Walmart in pa Sunday afternoon.....cue up the crickets....nobody is there. It's a frigging ghost town. Everybody there is watching their favorite football team. People here don't give a rat's patootie anymore. They care, just from a distance. 

@nero said:

Also, they have to show results PERIODICALLY. The progression cannot be 1-15, 0-16... Whatever. You can, no,  you MUST expect this year 2 team to be better than year 1. And you can't put all the blame on the coach. Teams lose and win either because many people do their job wrong or right. That's why it's a team sport. 

Nero with some solid logic. Couldn't agree more bro. It's one thing to see progress by the defense playing a little better, it's another thing to see progress in the form of wins.

We cannot regress and get worse at this point, even if we made any changes we couldn't get worse than our record is now. If Hue wins out the last six games, or even the last 3 or four, it would give us some fire and progression. "Kizer played, well, only threw one interception and we lost by 3" simply isn't good enough anymore. The Vikings have Sam Bradford, Terry Bridgewater, and Case Keenum playing lights out now, and we have a 21 year old from Toledo with one of the worst rookie seasons statistically in history. If Jimmy thinks 1-24 is a solid product, well, he's going to lose some of us.

@flyingfooldoug said:

I don't think the base is dumb. Maybe numb, but most people are sick of the Haslam BS.

 I have decided that I am against firing the whole FO now.  I am entirely for burning at the stake, walking the plank into a frigid lake Erie, keelhauling, guillotine, tar and featheriing every stinking one tho.

I hear you. All the losing is taking it's toll. It seems 95% of all the chatter is "Fire this guy, fire that guy," or "Draft this guy, draft that guy."

4-43 will do that to us. 3-13, 1-15, 0-10 last 3 seasons. 38-116 since 2008. 

And some people want 0-16 and some stupid-butt PARADE for 0-16. THAT IS DUMB, STUPID. SORRY I"M EFFING YELLING IN CAPS

@bob806 said:

Count me out on the "we."

WTF man, I want my team winning. Our fan base is getting dumb.

I don't think the base is dumb. Maybe numb, but most people are sick of the Haslam BS.

 I have decided that I am against firing the whole FO now.  I am entirely for burning at the stake, walking the plank into a frigid lake Erie, keelhauling, guillotine, tar and featheriing every stinking one tho.

@hoorta said:

Sad thing is with decent QB play, the Browns win that game. Rare that you can pin a loss on one player, but the Jags game I think you can.

Very true....of course devils advocate....the Jags with decent QB play are probably a potential super bowl team but with Bortles doing Bortles things...they'll get bounced quickly in the playoffs if they make it.

@londonbrown said:

0-16 is exactly what we want 

It sucks. But that’s the best thing for the Browns. 

Count me out on the "we."

WTF man, I want my team winning. Our fan base is getting dumb.

@hoorta said:

Sad thing is with decent QB play, the Browns win that game. Rare that you can pin a loss on one player, but the Jags game I think you can.

You'd say that's only on Kizer? The offensive line was man handled the entire game and the receivers have some drops. And I still think Hue doesn't get the best of this offense (which isn't much, but I believe is more than we get to see).