@dutch-oven said:

Those damn millennials can't hold a candle to the baby boomers, real leaders like Jimmy Haslam, for example. 

Oh yeah and we early boomers 1946 to about 1956 learned from the Greatest Generation WWII guys to be tough and how to handle things right.....now the 1956 to 1964 eh, not so sure about them like my three youngest brothers 

.........and get of my lawn dammit!

@mjp28 said:

Burger King screwedup our pre-thanksgiving meal, burger and fries order yesterday evening.......real tough order two whoppers NO catchup. God bless America and those who will be running it soon. 

Those damn millennials can't hold a candle to the baby boomers, real leaders like Jimmy Haslam, for example. 

Coleman in this, his first season playing, is about where Mitch was year three. Coincidentally so is Mitch...

But when you build a strawman you grasp for every straw you can.

@orion said:

Coleman was NOT as good as Schwartz.  He was a rookie.  -  Sure, they scrambled during the following offseason to try and correct what they did wrong.  But I would like people that know better in the FIRST place.  No?  That wouldn't be a good idea for a PROFESSIONAL football team?  

He played in one game last year....

@wargograw said:

Coleman is as good as Schwartz. Tretter slightly worse than Mack though Mack was not good in his last year here at all. Zeitler is better than Greco. The other two are stillthere. What exactly are you complaining about?

Coleman was NOT as good as Schwartz.  He was a rookie.  -  Sure, they scrambled during the following offseason to try and correct what they did wrong.  But I would like people that know better in the FIRST place.  No?  That wouldn't be a good idea for a PROFESSIONAL football team?  

@hoorta said:

More like I'll go back to the same Mickey Ds when they give me change for a five after I hand them a ten, and the dumb a$$ Manager sticks up for the employee. Or the window goober says, "you mean I  have to go in the back to get you a pack of salt? When I asked for one. 

Not making this up Tom. & how hard is it to figure out Double Cheeseburger, no mustard? 

Burger King screwedup our pre-thanksgiving meal, burger and fries order yesterday evening.......real tough order two whoppers NO catchup. God bless America and those who will be running it soon. 

Our record: 1-25

Worst ever over 2 seasons:

76-77 Bucs 2-26

08-09 Lions 2-30

Worst ever over 3 seasons: 

07-08-09 Rams 6-42

Good job, everyone... /s

Oh, for a more fair comparison with the Bucs we need to take out our last 2 results of last year, and presto, we're 0-24.

@orion said:

Let's face it...these guys took a 3 or 4 win team and made them such that they can't win 2 games in two years.  Try as you might, you cannot make an excuse that a rational person would accept for that.

I know of at least one who continues to try...... 

@orion said:

Well...apparently, the plan was to let Mitchell Schwartz walk because of their BIG egos...while we KNEW we were losing Alex Mack.  Thus, our OL went straight into the $hitter, we broke all of our QB's and even broke Clipboard Jesus.  -  That was brilliance right there.

And their plan was also to evaluate Wentz as NOT being a top 20 QB in this league...and giving Houston THEIR QB.  All the while WE were / are a team floundering without a franchise QB.  -  That's EVALUATING  brilliance being demonstrated.

...and we should want to CONTINUE with these people making decisions?  

It was an interesting concept.  I don't blame Haslam for thinking outside of the box.  But apparently we need people that can evaluate FOOTBALL players and not baseball players and district attorneys.

Let's face it...these guys took a 3 or 4 win team and made them such that they can't win 2 games in two years.  Try as you might, you cannot make an excuse that a rational person would accept for that.

Coleman is as good as Schwartz. Tretter slightly worse than Mack though Mack was not good in his last year here at all. Zeitler is better than Greco. The other two are stillthere. What exactly are you complaining about?

@ghoolie said:

I went to McDonalds today. They fukced up my order. I am going back tomorrow. This is what a rebuild looks like.

More like I'll go back to the same Mickey Ds when they give me change for a five after I hand them a ten, and the dumb a$$ Manager sticks up for the employee. Or the window goober says, "you mean I  have to go in the back to get you a pack of salt? When I asked for one. 

Not making this up Tom. & how hard is it to figure out Double Cheeseburger, no mustard? 

@d-bone said:

Dire times: Since Hue Jackson brought it up, I ask: What is the Browns’ plan?

Well...apparently, the plan was to let Mitchell Schwartz walk because of their BIG egos...while we KNEW we were losing Alex Mack.  Thus, our OL went straight into the $hitter, we broke all of our QB's and even broke Clipboard Jesus.  -  That was brilliance right there.

And their plan was also to evaluate Wentz as NOT being a top 20 QB in this league...and giving Houston THEIR QB.  All the while WE were / are a team floundering without a franchise QB.  -  That's EVALUATING  brilliance being demonstrated.

...and we should want to CONTINUE with these people making decisions?  

It was an interesting concept.  I don't blame Haslam for thinking outside of the box.  But apparently we need people that can evaluate FOOTBALL players and not baseball players and district attorneys.

Let's face it...these guys took a 3 or 4 win team and made them such that they can't win 2 games in two years.  Try as you might, you cannot make an excuse that a rational person would accept for that.

If you’re going to be against this FO, at least argue against what they’re trying to do, not some straw man you made up. 

@tour2ma said:

Good poll, Nero... but unfortunately I cannot answer a single question in it without forcing a fit that does not represent my takes.

That's my take also.

Depot & Sashi agreed that Wentz would be crap....so...I'd flush them both.

I don't like Hue's game-day decision making......so I'd have already been talking with people about being my next coach.  If I can't get anyone to commit that they'd be my coach then I'd keep Hue for another year.

PoeticG - What we should do is demote Hue Jackson to OC.

Man-o-man.  There just isn't any defending that statement......unless you're talking about Hue going to another team...which you aren't.

@poeticg said:

What we should do is demote Hue Jackson to OC. He can do okay if that's all he has to worry about and doesn't get the say on who plays. The HC should give him the players and say, make THIS work, period. That is his only chance at this point. He doesn't make the right decisions on who plays and where and when. The Head Coach should have his hand on both the Offense and Defense, hell even some special teams here and there, but Hue doesn't have a clue what is happening on the defensive side of the ball. 

If Hue won't take the OC job then tell him to take a hike and good luck finding another team willing to give a 1-25 HC another chance after the debacle that follows him from gameday to gameday. 

You are out of your fukcing mind. Seriously bro, what universe do you live in? No goddamned HC is going to take a demotion to OC and then stay on the team he once was HC. Why even post schidt like this? This is not something that is ever going to happen, it is not even a good idea. WTF man, your thoughts here are goofier than the Sumo thread.

@hoorta said:

I have to hope this is a bunch of unsubstantiated Grossi BS. Mr. Poison Pen at work....

Tyrod Taylor or AJ McCarron might push me over the edge. Draft Rosen anyway, let the chips fall where they may....  

These things have been reported other places too. Sign a carpart, draft a running QB in Jackson. It's not just Grossi.

@poeticg said:

Hue Jackson say's he looking for leaders to step up on Offense. It's hard when the player's champion is sitting at 3rd string at QB. 

Play Kevin Hogan MAN. Crazy Kevin is the leader on this team, he's almost the elder statesman on the team and an excellent leader for a young football team. 

They players will follow Kevin to victories if Hue would just stop trying to cram Kizer down their throat. It's pretty simple bud, it's not rocket science as much as you guys would like to make it out to be. Kevin had ONE chance to make an impression and the pressure got to him that Texans game. It happens. But wake up to reality, the buzzer has been going off for weeks. 

So, if he married his wife in Kentucky, then divorced her in Ohio....are they still brother and sister?????..

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Polls are great and all, but I sincerely doubt that Haslam reads TBB and would base his decision on the poll.

This is not for the Haslams, this is just so we can see what TBB members think about the Process, since they're not doing any kind of poll with the fanbase. Also, there are many opinions that are shared in the threads, so I just wanted to quantify how's the general vibe. 

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Polls are great and all, but I sincerely doubt that Haslam reads TBB and would base his decision on the poll.

I'm beginning to believe that he can't read...period