Browns had the lowest pressure rating of any team in the NFL yesterday.. scheme also can't cover for that. Williams did his best by blitzing to create - but again he simply doesn't have the players. 

The weakness is talent at all levels of the D, not some magic elixir..

@clevfan4life said:

they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

@clevfan4life said:

they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

@the-gipper said:

Kizer missed throws all game and or held onto the ball too long. 

FIFY... can't do both.

He can and he did....just not on the same play

I didn’t say that bro, Tour did, I said the original statement. 

FIFY... can't do both.

He can and he did....just not on the same play

@ghoolie said:

Did you know that during the second world war when men and materials were in short supply, the Browns and the Eagles combined into one football team? It's true. They were called the Cleagles.

That was quite a feat....considering the Browns were not even founded until after WWII.

Or, maybe they were some kind of secret weapon....not revealed until after the war.   Maybe they were part of Project Blue Book.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Surely, nobody will bite on this.

@stillmotion said:

Kizer missed throws all game and or held onto the ball too long. 

FIFY... can't do both.

@clevfan4life said:

^^^^^ that

what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

True that, look at how good mccourty did on covering Allen. He had some major stops, and Allen is crazy good. Kizer missed throws all game and held onto the ball too long. 

what kind of ridiculous non sensical over expectations is this when we expect a rookie defense to hold phillip rivers and the chargers to less than 10 pts? Cause if ur hanging this loss in the def, they would gave had to hold the chargers to less pts than the offense right? Right u numpties? 

But per usual our offense is so atrocious it helps the def not one iota. 3 fg's in the 1st half aint half bad for the def against phillip rivers with those wr's and melvin gordon running behind em. That was a top 10 rusher we held to 77 yds and an oversll #8 offense we held to 19 pts

@clevfan4life said:

Was that the cleveland eagles?

Did you know that during the second world war when men and materials were in short supply, the Browns and the Eagles combined into one football team? It's true. They were called the Cleagles.

                                                                                                                                                                                                Surely, nobody will bite on this.

@baconhound said:

They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

Not at all.

I have zero faith that if the Browns could somehow stumble upon a lead late in a game that the defense could or would stop the other team from marching down the field and taking back the lead.

@clevfan4life said:

they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

They allowed the Chargers 35 minutes in time of possession and didn't force a punt until the 4th quarter.  While I applaud their ability to limit red zone scores LA moved the ball with great ease.  I will grant you that ultimately the score is what matters but I still don't have the impression that when the win is on the line they can get the other team off the field.

@clevfan4life said:

How were they 'bad"?

They gave up 9 more points than the offense scored 

@baconhound said:

Defense was bad today

they held the chargers to 3 field goals in the 1st half. How were they 'bad"?

@roach said:

Do you the Phillip Rivers that is 5-6?

Our standards for good football are quite different my friend.

Rivers is a Solid QB. Our defense is playing alright. Usually, an offense should be able to put up more than 3-10 PTs in order to win.

@clevfan4life said:

they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

Do you the Phillip Rivers that is 5-6?

Our standards for good football are quite different my friend.

@roach said:

No Charger punts in the 1st half  (just like last week against the Bengals).  Greg Williams is a joke and this defense is putrid. 

they've held them to 9 points dude. 3 field goals. Phillip Rivers.  Is ur brain ok?

@d-bone said:

So long ago that the name of the Championship changed and there has now been 51 of those Super Bowls since....  

Yep, half century or so. What a rebuild!,?

@flyingfooldoug said:

The browns won the title in 64..... 1964.... And that is well over half a century.

So long ago that the name of the Championship changed and there has now been 51 of those Super Bowls since....