@warriorsrpussies said:

Maybe I was too harsh but come on man we have 3 pro Bowl level players on the team. One is Gordon. 

I think he is the best player on the team by far and in the league- when his head is on straight. I just don't think his head is on straight yet, lol. Hope he proves me wrong!

@warriorsrpussies said:

No Hogan sucks

Tell that to PoG lol 

@ahitz3 said:

Master's Degree in Education for me- in fact let me teach you what I just was teaching my 3rd graders this week. It was fact vs opinion, in which my OPINION here  is that he will not be around much longer, on this team.  He has also taken off plays in the past when he actually was able to get on the field. I don't trust the guy but believe me I'm hoping he makes me look uneducated and flat out wrong! 

Maybe I was too harsh but come on man we have 3 pro Bowl level players on the team. One is Gordon. 

@ahitz3 said:

Dumber than that guy on here that said Hogan is the future even after he started and shi t the bed?

No Hogan sucks

@warriorsrpussies said:

Exactly!!! If he's taking plays off it's because his out of shape, which is understandable since his been gone for two years. His BY FAR the best player on this $hitty team and it's not even. Sometimes I ponder what level of education the average poster has on this board.

Master's Degree in Education for me- in fact let me teach you what I just was teaching my 3rd graders this week. It was fact vs opinion, in which my OPINION here  is that he will not be around much longer, on this team.  He has also taken off plays in the past when he actually was able to get on the field. I don't trust the guy but believe me I'm hoping he makes me look uneducated and flat out wrong! 

@clevfan4life said:

His arm got way hooked on that throw. And he saw it late, timing issue. That being said if he's still loafing cut him after the next game if it doesnt stop. 

Dustin fox talked about this years ago when hoyer was still here. Josh gordon gives the play away almost every down. Safeties read his enthusiasm level off the snap and they know right away if the play is going toward him. That analysis was done by a former db in Fox, so it isnt bullsht. If he's still doing this it doesnt matter what his physical gifts are

Yeah- I guess I'm just not putting trust back into a guy that, to me, on Sunday didn't show that he humbled himself much- and then later on twitter. 

@poeticg said:

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Gordon is the absolute best player on our team, by a lot. 

The DBs out there couldn't cover him, they grabbed, tripped, groped and held on to him for dear life for 4 quarters yesterday. A man amongst boys. Of course Green Bay was going to get all the calls because the NFL wants them to stay relevant in the playoff hunt with Rodgers coming back.

Gordon will get a contract extension if anything. Pay the man. 

Dumber than that guy on here that said Hogan is the future even after he started and shi t the bed?

@poeticg said:

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Gordon is the absolute best player on our team, by a lot. 

The DBs out there couldn't cover him, they grabbed, tripped, groped and held on to him for dear life for 4 quarters yesterday. A man amongst boys. Of course Green Bay was going to get all the calls because the NFL wants them to stay relevant in the playoff hunt with Rodgers coming back.

Gordon will get a contract extension if anything. Pay the man. 

I'll agree with the bold there were some pretty bad calls, and no calls- and they all went against the Browns. Shades of WWF.  Head butt call, but the Green Bay guy shoves the refs- that one is OK. I agree Gordon was getting held all game, Tour pointed out Njoku got discreetly grabbed on that drop that the refs missed. There were plenty of others. 

@tour2ma said:

Two games in a row...

While an WR who might be sent in to give him a blow (no pun intended), may not be better than a gassed JG, we can always go to mutilple TEs or 2-back sets.

Wait a minute............wait a minute.......   are you saying Hue should actually think through a gameplan in advance that would actually do something like that? 

Would it include timely and purposeful TO's too?

@hoorta said:

... gotta prove he can stay straight before he's getting that kind of cash. 

How long does that take? Josh would have about 18 months under his belt before he'd hit tag timing.

Then I'd have to ask, why? While the one-year tag salary is guaranteed, I do not think the guarantee includes suspensions for any cause.

Then there's the three tag choices to consider.... but save that for another time...

@westside-steve said:

Is next year his contract year? And then can we franchise him? Unless we have the quarterback in place and he's a free agent he has to be thinking the odds of super success would be less with a rookie or bad quarterback then it would be with a team with a good one.

WSS

He's a restricted FA Steve. We could redo his contract, or slap a first round tender on him. First-round tender: Free agent can negotiate with other teams, but original team has option to match any deal and will receive a first-round selection if it opts not to match the deal.

Works out to around $4 million. Another team could bid higher but considering Josh's history, doubtful.

Yes, we can franchise him but har, har that a cool $15 million. Julio Jones money. gotta prove he can stay straight before he's getting that kind of cash. 

@diehardbrownsfan said:

All of us know that Gordon has a natural talent that few players have.  However, his drug taking and alcohol abuse have been ongoing for years.  I highly doubt he will make it through the off season without another incident.  Hope I'm wrong.

There's a chance you are wrong. I had a lot of people saying that about me when I hit rehab at 28 years old. I'm 55 now and have been clean and sober since then. I'm sure hoping Josh is as blessed as I've been. 

@unsympathetic said:

Gordon was gassed in the second half because he should have been on a play count.. watch the cut-ups of all his plays, he was getting no explosion/separation after halftime.

Two games in a row...

While an WR who might be sent in to give him a blow (no pun intended), may not be better than a gassed JG, we can always go to mutilple TEs or 2-back sets.

2) Gordon was gassed in the second half because he should have been on a play count.. watch the cut-ups of all his plays, he was getting no explosion/separation after halftime.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

All of us know that Gordon has a natural talent that few players have.  However, his drug taking and alcohol abuse have been ongoing for years.  I highly doubt he will make it through the off season without another incident.  Hope I'm wrong.

Well I got news for you.. I have a friend who was a worse addict than Gordon ever was.. Hes now been sober for 20 years... So you can all stick that in your pipe.. and smoke it!

The one thing I have not seen mentioned about him in Sunday's game was the life he brought to the sideline. Granted that it was easy given the building lead through three quarters, but the joy he showed and spread among at least our receiving corps was palpable after his score... after Corey's... after Duke's... even after Devalve's wrist catch.

I don't recall him being "this guy" before...

@ahitz3 said:

I think he either wants out and will do what it takes, or his immaturity factor will have him traded out of this no nonsense GMs game plan. 

Thoughts?

We have a no nonsense GM?

WSS

@poeticg said:

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Gordon is the absolute best player on our team, by a lot. 

The DBs out there couldn't cover him, they grabbed, tripped, groped and held on to him for dear life for 4 quarters yesterday. A man amongst boys. Of course Green Bay was going to get all the calls because the NFL wants them to stay relevant in the playoff hunt with Rodgers coming back.

Gordon will get a contract extension if anything. Pay the man. 

Exactly!!! If he's taking plays off it's because his out of shape, which is understandable since his been gone for two years. His BY FAR the best player on this $hitty team and it's not even. Sometimes I ponder what level of education the average poster has on this board.