@dutch-oven said:

You are absolutely correct.

They are both dead.

And that is the only reason.

@stinkhole said:

Lol.

Today those two couldn't even start for St. Ignatius.

You are absolutely correct.

They are both dead.

@marc1971 said:

Not really. The Browns might have been competitive, but everyone else not. The AAFC was not the equal of the NFL, unlike the 1960s AFL.

AFC had better players because they took on black players in the NFL would not

@marc1971 said:

Not really. The Browns might have been competitive, but everyone else not. The AAFC was not the equal of the NFL, unlike the 1960s AFL.

Actually, the overall talent level of the AAFC was probably superior to the NFL by the end of its run.

This book covered that subject pretty convincingly.

https://www.amazon.com/Best-Show-Football-1946-1955-Browns-Pro-ebook/dp/B004C04ES8/ref=sr_1_56?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1514895809&sr=1-56&keywords=cleveland+browns+history

@the-gipper said:

Aafc better than the NFL at the time

Not really. The Browns might have been competitive, but everyone else not. The AAFC was not the equal of the NFL, unlike the 1960s AFL.

@the-gipper said:

Aafc better than the NFL at the time

There's a legit argument to be made for that. I feel confident that the Browns would have beaten the NFL champions of 1946-1949 at least 2 of the 4 seasons, if not better.

But that's speculation. We'll never know.

@dutch-oven said:

The Browns have four NFL championships Gipper. 1950, 1954, 1955 and 1964.

Not sure where the other four NFL championships are located.

Aafc better than the NFL at the time

@the-gipper said:

The Browns have eight sorry you can't countThe Browns have eight sorry you can't count

The Browns have four NFL championships Gipper. 1950, 1954, 1955 and 1964.

Not sure where the other four NFL championships are located.

@stinkhole said:

You're a trivia guru, this may interest you...

Like the 0-16 browns, the 0-16 Lions went 4-0 in the pre-season.

Like the 0-16 browns, the 0-16 Lions lost their 16th game to a storied divisional opponent (Packers)

Like the 0-16 browns, the 0-16 Lions never made a Super Bowl appearance.

Like the 0-16 browns, the Lions have 4 NFL championships.

The Browns have eight sorry you can't countThe Browns have eight sorry you can't count

@the-gipper said:

Exhibit No. 1 as to why Steeler fans are the stupidestExhibit No. 1 as to why Steeler fans are the stupidest

You're a trivia guru, this may interest you...

Like the 0-16 browns, the 0-16 Lions went 4-0 in the pre-season.

Like the 0-16 browns, the 0-16 Lions lost their 16th game to a storied divisional opponent (Packers)

Like the 0-16 browns, the 0-16 Lions never made a Super Bowl appearance.

Like the 0-16 browns, the Lions have 4 NFL championships.

@ukbb said:

From a Detroit Lions fan, welcome to the club Cleveland fans, I know your pain. 

So much pain that Lion fans revisit their 4 primordial NFL Championships to make themselves feel better?

@ukbb said:

So our coach goes 9-7 and gets the axe while yours goes 1-31 over two years and winless this year and gets a vote of confidence from the owner. The Browns might be the first team to repeat as 0-16.

They will go 0-16 if Hue coaches all the games

@ukbb said:

So our coach goes 9-7 and gets the axe while yours goes 1-31 over two years and winless this year and gets a vote of confidence from the owner. The Browns might be the first team to repeat as 0-16.

A phony coach for a phony businessman. Exactly what did you expect?

@stinkhole said:

Lol.

Today those two couldn't even start for St. Ignatius.

Exhibit No. 1 as to why Steeler fans are the stupidestExhibit No. 1 as to why Steeler fans are the stupidest

@the-gipper said:

Graham and Lavelli.

Lol.

Today those two couldn't even start for St. Ignatius.

@gafreleets said:

We might lose to someone in the playoffs.

When's the last time you could say that?

Hey, by the way, who'd you lose to?

Go Patriots

When's the last time you could say that?

Hey, by the way, who'd you lose to?