@texasag1969 said:

One of those early 2nds needs to be a FS and hopefully Fitz as a CB @#4 overall. Move Peppers to SS where he belongs.

I wouldnt be adverse to that. If minkahs there at 4 i think its a no brainer, even over barkley who i do like but id rather draft a draught horse later in the later rounds and put a big fb infront of him to go along with duke/dayes. 

The secondary could be special with fitzpatrick. Need a FA DE, we get that to go with a vet QB starting infront of rosen, the team could turn around. But if wevtear everything up and start brand new schemes its a1-2 season next year, tops. Maybe another ofer

@texasag1969 said:

One of those early 2nds needs to be a FS and hopefully Fitz as a CB @#4 overall. Move Peppers to SS where he belongs.

Kerwin James?

@clevfan4life said:

Dont remind me. Its been a whole year so ur right , time to change it up again. I said when we hired williams if they fire him prematurely and we overhaul the defense for the unpteenth time im out, and im serious. I cant watch another rebuild. Whats the point? As soon as we do something good on one side of the ball it all gets tore up a year later. 

One of those early 2nds needs to be a FS and hopefully Fitz as a CB @#4 overall. Move Peppers to SS where he belongs.

@tour2ma said:

I like Hubbard as a 3-4 OLB.

Might as well take him since we're overdue for a Defensive scheme change...

Dont remind me. Its been a whole year so ur right , time to change it up again. I said when we hired williams if they fire him prematurely and we overhaul the defense for the unpteenth time im out, and im serious. I cant watch another rebuild. Whats the point? As soon as we do something good on one side of the ball it all gets tore up a year later. 

Might as well take him since we're overdue for a Defensive scheme change...

@clevfan4life said:

He wont def any edges in the nfl. 

Sure.

@tiamat63 said:

Much bigger than Schob...   Edge defender that can zonedrop.  Full time 2p olb? Nah. 

He wont def any edges in the nfl. 

@clevfan4life said:

Nassib was actually better in college than hub was, wasnt he? Im honestly surprised at nassibs lack of development. Indidntbthink he was "that" far behind joey based on their college performance. I thought nassib would easily be 6-10 sack guy with the potential to go higher if he worked on it. Sadly it looks like if he ever gets close to 10 sacks he should prob call it a carreer and end on a decent note 

If I recall Nassib kind of came out of nowhere and had a great senior season.

For their entire career, Hubbard probably was better.

@clevfan4life said:

Is schobert maybe better comp? Hubs essentially looks like a 3-4 olb'er to me. But im not sure he's athletic enough for that and ge's not big/strong enough to play 4-3 DE in the nfl. Really not sure where he fits in the nfl

Much bigger than Schob...   Edge defender that can zonedrop.  Full time 2p olb? Nah. 

@tiamat63 said:

Not the worst comparison.

He's a bit better an athlete and can bend/dip with great fluidity.   I'd also venture to say Hubs is more versatile from a 2pt as he's dropped into some zone on occasion.   Solid rotation guy, borderline starter when you need him but Sam has reached his ceiling here.     

Is schobert maybe better comp? Hubs essentially looks like a 3-4 olb'er to me. But im not sure he's athletic enough for that and ge's not big/strong enough to play 4-3 DE in the nfl. Really not sure where he fits in the nfl

@tiamat63 said:

Not the worst comparison.

He's a bit better an athlete and can bend/dip with great fluidity.   I'd also venture to say Hubs is more versatile from a 2pt as he's dropped into some zone on occasion.   Solid rotation guy, borderline starter when you need him but Sam has reached his ceiling here.     

Nassib was actually better in college than hub was, wasnt he? Im honestly surprised at nassibs lack of development. Indidntbthink he was "that" far behind joey based on their college performance. I thought nassib would easily be 6-10 sack guy with the potential to go higher if he worked on it. Sadly it looks like if he ever gets close to 10 sacks he should prob call it a carreer and end on a decent note 

@clevfan4life said:

I like hub, but he wont make those plays in the nfl. He's another nassib. 

Not the worst comparison.

He's a bit better an athlete and can bend/dip with great fluidity.   I'd also venture to say Hubs is more versatile from a 2pt as he's dropped into some zone on occasion.   Solid rotation guy, borderline starter when you need him but Sam has reached his ceiling here.     

@dawg2fan said:

Nick Bosa will never be as good as his brother, but he's pretty good.  

Cant say that. But for sure right now, he seems to have his brothers power but not the pass rushing finesse moves. Joeys hands are unique, but he wirked on em. This is why i told everyone two years ago joeys the guy. He's a craftsman who was already nfl strong....and he's getting stronger and faster. 

This is why i want nick, he'll get that work ethic from his older brother. 

@dutch-oven said:

Ohio State DE Sam Hubbard, who had 2.5 sacks last night vs USC, surprises no one by declaring for the NFL Draft.

I like hub, but he wont make those plays in the nfl. He's another nassib. 

@the-gipper said:

As I said my phone duplicates everything I say and I have no clue why. Paragraph number 2X asked who has Michigan put out that has been any good at all since Brady. Yes I know Brady may be the best ever but who else is come out of there and worth a shitAs I said my phone duplicates everything I say and I have no clue why. Paragraph number 2X asked who has Michigan put out that has been any good at all since Brady. Yes I know Brady may be the best ever but who else is come out of there and worth a Sheet

Yeah, hard to follow.

Off the top of my head, Taylor Lewan. 

@the-gipper said:

This duplication business only happens when I quote someone. It does not happen when I do not make a "as you can see from this particular post.

Weird

@mld-woody said:

1) What's wrong with your phone?

2) Considering Brady is arguably the best player in NFL history... They've never put out anyone that good since then.

As I said my phone duplicates everything I say and I have no clue why. Paragraph number 2X asked who has Michigan put out that has been any good at all since Brady. Yes I know Brady may be the best ever but who else is come out of there and worth a shitAs I said my phone duplicates everything I say and I have no clue why. Paragraph number 2X asked who has Michigan put out that has been any good at all since Brady. Yes I know Brady may be the best ever but who else is come out of there and worth a Sheet

2) Considering Brady is arguably the best player in NFL history... They've never put out anyone that good since then.

@mld-woody said:

Michigan DL. #1 high school recruit coming out. Like Clowney. He'll tear up the combine. 

Michigan? When was the last time Michigan put out anybody worth anything Tom Brady maybeMichigan? When was the last time Michigan put out anybody worth anything Tom Brady maybe