@tour2ma said:

Only you would want a lawyer with no football background "looking at film."

Five NFL GMs actually apparently have law degrees.    (or did when you included Sashi).    Not sure about their additional background in football. The others may have had a lot more than Sashi.

@tour2ma said:

First, no thanks.

Second, you just complicated things.

Third, that "guy" is called a "scout".

No, it's called problem solving. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid

Any seemingly large problem can be broken down into a series of smaller problems. These then have easier solutions. Sorry Stosh didn't work for ya. I don't see anyone lining up to hire a 2 time loser and I dam sure don't see any other teams trying out a total anal ytics program. BTW, GM is just the head scout. He should look at film. That was one of the criticisms of Stosh. 

@orion said:

Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

Coffee is for Closers.

@orion said:

Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

What about a QB projected to be a nice coffee maker? You don't want to draft a guy who makes great coffee but always makes a mess. 

@tour2ma said:

First in, last out

Nah.  First in's gotta make the coffee.

We want that in a QB.  (a QB that makes good coffee)

@flyingfooldoug said:

Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

First, no thanks.

Second, you just complicated things.

Third, that "guy" is called a "scout".

@tour2ma said:

Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

• Andy Reid (Chiefs)
• John Harbaugh (Ravens)
• Ron Rivera (Panthers)
• Doug Pederson (Eagles)
• Todd Bowles (Jets)
• Sean McDermott (Bills)
• Matt Nagy (Bears)

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

Simple plan for simple folks.

Or a guy that studies film along with a stat sheet. Isn't so arrogant that he can listen to others. First in, last out.... Yep simple is as simple does. Why make it complex? KISS?

@flyingfooldoug said:

Why let the facts get in the way. Never been fishing  either?  Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers. John boy is in Canada now. Maybe he will play nice with you.

So by your own admission facts don’t matter. Sweet. Good talk. 

@dutch-oven said:

I'm going to definitely keep an eye on how this turns out, seeing that there was rumors that if Hue had gotten fired, Nagy was his probable/possible replacement.

Nagy wasn't on my radar, but Reid's coaching tree is really impressive. On NFL Live yesterday Louis Riddick was going on and on yesterday about how Reid prepares his staff for future success.

It’s very possible that the Big Red coaching tree will expand to include eight teams, or 25 percent of the league (H/T Will Brinson of CBS Sports for noticing this first)

There is currently Andy Reid and six of his former underlings as head coaches in the NFL. Chiefs special teams coach Dave Toub is considered a possibility for someone this year. Pat Shurmur is the offensive coordinator of the Vikings and considered a head coaching candidate this year.

If Shurmur or Toub gets a job, that’ll be eight.

• Andy Reid (Chiefs)
• John Harbaugh (Ravens)
• Ron Rivera (Panthers)
• Doug Pederson (Eagles)
• Todd Bowles (Jets)
• Sean McDermott (Bills)
• Matt Nagy (Bears)

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/1/9/16863682/andy-reid-coaching-tree-could-stretch-to-more-than-25-percent-of-the-league

@flyingfooldoug said:

Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers.

So step one is "Win" and step two is "See step one"?

Simple plan for simple folks.

@wargograw said:

Wait wait wait. Me not understanding that (supposedly) means you don't have to use facts? Interesting. Explains alot.

Why let the facts get in the way. Never been fishing  either?  Football is about winning. Not some indefinite long term losing strategy playing with numbers. John boy is in Canada now. Maybe he will play nice with you.

@flyingfooldoug said:

Nope, not until you understand that football is supposed to be all about winning. 

Wait wait wait. Me not understanding that (supposedly) means you don't have to use facts? Interesting. Explains alot.

@wargograw said:

I came here a year after he got drafted. Always been a Browns fan. Get your facts straight.

Nope, not until you understand that football is supposed to be all about winning. 

@flyingfooldoug said:

You came here with Johnny, he signed in Canada now. Hamilton Tiger cats. Go there and take hue with you

I came here a year after he got drafted. Always been a Browns fan. Get your facts straight.

@the-gipper said:

I have been under the impression all along that BB basically has wanted McDaniels to succeed him as HC of the Pats.  

I think BB wants to be the all time winningest HC.  So he still needs a bunch of 10 win seasons.

@tour2ma said:

Niw we have to suffer 7 years before a change? Oy vey...

Bears announced KC's OC Matt Nagy as their new HC about the same time you posted this.

I'm going to definitely keep an eye on how this turns out, seeing that there was rumors that if Hue had gotten fired, Nagy was his probable/possible replacement.

@tour2ma said:

Niw we have to suffer 7 years before a change? Oy vey...

Bears announced KC's OC Matt Nagy as their new HC about the same time you posted this.

Alrighty then?    Where, if anywhere, does McDaniels land?  Or does he stay put?

@dutch-oven said:

The Lions are going to the same Patriots coaching well that gave us Charlie Weis, Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini, Josh McDaniels, et al.

Godspeed, Detroit Lions.

Yeah... those branches have not borne much fruit. Great assistants... not so much HCs.

@the-gipper said:

McDaniels name is being touted heavily as the Bears HC.  

Bears announced KC's OC Matt Nagy as their new HC about the same time you posted this.

@nero said:

If they announce something similar about McDanields, it could mean that Belichick is retiring. I can't see him staying in the Pats and losing two main coaches of his personnel. 

I have been under the impression all along that BB basically has wanted McDaniels to succeed him as HC of the Pats.   What BB really wanted likely was for McDaniels and Garropolo to carry on where he and Brady left off......because BB wanted that to be his legacy.  Now, perhaps, he doesn't care about leaving any legacy  with the Pats...if he thinks he has been screwed over by Kraft and Brady.

He may in fact be trying to see to it that McDaniels...like Patricia, gets an HC job elsewhere.....and then he leaves the Pats high and dry by retiring....or by trying to get the NYGiants gig for himself.

McDaniels name is being touted heavily as the Bears HC.   Which would be a bit ironic....as it was John Fox who replaced him in Denver...and he could replace Fox in Chicago.  McDaniels would then work with Trubisky.

@wargograw said:

Yeah it's kinda like you telling me to go root for another team because I'm dissatisfied with the moves of this one, while you've spent months saying people's dissatisfaction is a-ok. Hypocrite. You are really bad at defending yourself intellectually. I'd take up something else. 

You came here with Johnny, he signed in Canada now. Hamilton Tiger cats. Go there and take hue with you

@dutch-oven said:

Man, when you go off the rails, YOU GO OFF THE RAILS.

Next you'll compare Sashi getting fired to the Holocaust.

Yeah it's kinda like you telling me to go root for another team because I'm dissatisfied with the moves of this one, while you've spent months saying people's dissatisfaction is a-ok. Hypocrite. You are really bad at defending yourself intellectually. I'd take up something else. 

@wargograw said:

I'll stick with the Browns, and the Browns will keep sucking. But at least they have a football guy. You, on the other hand, could go live in another country though....

Man, when you go off the rails, YOU GO OFF THE RAILS.

Next you'll compare Sashi getting fired to the Holocaust.

@dutch-oven said:

When Sashi gets a new GM gig, feel free to go root for that team...

Oh... wait...

I'll stick with the Browns, and the Browns will keep sucking. But at least they have a football guy. You, on the other hand, could go live in another country though....

@flyingfooldoug said:

Nope, it's as simple as finding the right guy. Happens all the time.

Until Mr. "Right Guy" gets fired 3 years later. Yeah, the NFL is just teeming with long-tenured head coaches because those organizations just found the "right guy."

No, they're run well and they're talented, so a halfway decent coach can walk in and win some games. We can never have that because we scrap the players every two years. And why do we do that? Because we scrap the GM and HC every two years. 

But hey, at some point it'll click. Maybe attempt #9 or whatever we're on will be the charm.