@nero said:

What? Show me the post, but I think you are distorting whatever I said. I didn't mention that constantly calling out players and throwing them under the bus wouldn't affect them, I even said in some posts that I didn't like Hue's attitude (for example towards Crowell). 

Only thing I said when Dorsey decided to say that previous regime didn't bring talent at all is that he shouldn't have done that, but I didn't worry too much about players getting hurt because they should use those comments as motivation to prove him wrong.

You simply don't go 0-16 without everyone of the groups (players, coaches and front office)  contributing to the sh!t show. 

Answer to #2: Yes, of course.

Answer to #1: Wanna some? 

We argued about this just a few weeks ago when Sashi was fired. Someone said that it was tantamount to telling the team "you guys have no talent," which is true. You responded with "well at 0-14 they better know by now!" 

@flyingfooldoug said:

So basically, you just got rid of hue.

Exactamundo. Well except he can still be the Browns' cheerleader since they don't have any.

@the-cysko-kid said:

Did hue Jackson win a challenge this year at all?

He was 2 and 6 in challenges

@texasag1969 said:

Besides bulls what else does Pamplona grow, grapes for wine?

They make a lot of movies in Spain because it has a lot of geographical diversity.

A lot of the Game of Thrones is being filmed in Spain now.   It had been filmed in Croatia.  (the parts that are not filmed in Northern Ireland or Iceland)

@texasag1969 said:

Get the OC, get a better spotter in the booth and take the red flag away from Hueless. Give him a clipboard so he looks impotent (that's important in the deep south), which makes it harder for him to waste timeouts.

So basically, you just got rid of hue.

@texasag1969 said:

@texasag1969 said:

Besides bulls what else does Pamplona grow, grapes for wine?

Lol. In Navarra we have atlantic weather, desert and the Pyrinees, and you can cross it in an hour. Pamplona is an industrial city, but Navarra is famous for its vegetables, good meat; mainly lunchmeat. We are 1 hour away from the Atlantic Ocean so we have also good fish. It's one of the best places gastronomically, just behind Basque Country.

@nero said:

It could be said that Spain has United States' geographical and weather variety but in a way smaller size. Southern and western Spain have plenty of olive plantations, indeed. 

Besides bulls what else does Pamplona grow, grapes for wine?

@texasag1969 said:

I guarantee I certainly didn't know it until I actually took a bus trip from a coastal town to Granada to see the Alhambra about 7 years ago. Oceans of olive trees both sides of the road as far as you could see. Same experience this fall when driving in western Spain. I always think of Italy and Greece when I think of olive trees and olive oil. Now I think of Spain as well. It's like wheat is to the plains here in the US.

It could be said that Spain has United States' geographical and weather variety but in a way smaller size. Southern and western Spain have plenty of olive plantations, indeed. 

@diehardbrownsfan said:

My favorite was when Kizer called a time out with 3 seconds left in the quarter.

Last game vs Steelers Kizer called a timeout when we were on our 3rd yard line I believe. The penalty for delay of game was an unsurmountable yard and a half... 

@the-cysko-kid said:

Did hue Jackson win a challenge this year at all?

Don't remember one and it certainly added to our wasted timeouts almost every game. The funniest was the one where he could not recall where he had the flag, but still managed to get it out just to be wrong one more f'n time.

@texasag1969 said:

Get the OC, get a better spotter in the booth and take the red flag away from Hueless. Give him a clipboard so he looks impotent (that's important in the deep south), which makes it harder for him to waste timeouts.

Did hue Jackson win a challenge this year at all?

@flyingfooldoug said:

The team may not have top talent but a good coach could have won a few games. A good coach exploits his players attributes and win by game planning and adjusting during the game.  The Browns would not be The Winless Browns with a quality head coach.

Get the OC, get a better spotter in the booth and take the red flag away from Hueless. Give him a clipboard so he looks impotent (that's important in the deep south), which makes it harder for him to waste timeouts.

@the-gipper said:

He is wrong because I would say that 50% of the ineptitude on this team lays clearly on his own personal  shoulders.  I don't think the talent is overall that bad.....key spot, QB, being an exception. 

The team may not have top talent but a good coach could have won a few games. A good coach exploits his players attributes and win by game planning and adjusting during the game.  The Browns would not be The Winless Browns with a quality head coach.

@ghoolie said:

Thank you for educating me. I never realized this.

I guarantee I certainly didn't know it until I actually took a bus trip from a coastal town to Granada to see the Alhambra about 7 years ago. Oceans of olive trees both sides of the road as far as you could see. Same experience this fall when driving in western Spain. I always think of Italy and Greece when I think of olive trees and olive oil. Now I think of Spain as well. It's like wheat is to the plains here in the US.

@texasag1969 said:

Now you just proved how ignorant you are. In Spain they have so many damn olive trees there are enough to shove dozens up everyone's butt without affecting the olive oil business one iota.

Thank you for educating me. I never realized this.

@vikingdawg said:

How is Hue wrong? The players SaShit gave him to work with are 95% garbage. 

He is wrong because I would say that 50% of the ineptitude on this team lays clearly on his own personal  shoulders.  I don't think the talent is overall that bad.....key spot, QB, being an exception. 

@boo-fagley said:

Drew Lock is just the type of QB that everybody will kick themselves for not taking him.

Every draft it seems a QB comes out of no where.

And every draft multiple QBs go back to nowhere and you've picked two.

@boo-fagley said:

Ya, but doesnt he lose credibility?

These draft previews build up college players as if they are Hall of Famers in the waiting. They get everyone all fired up and then the rug gets pulled out from under you after a season or two when the guy is $hitbum.

You mean kind of like you and cal are building up shitty QB's.

@logicisforsquares said:

I was jabbing at the people who give credence to Gruden's words when it is indeed his job to hype up every QB he interviews.

@texasag1969 said:

That's his job. When he's coaching it's a different ball game with him.

EDIT: Besides I'd rather watch his pressers after games than Huey Fig Newton Fester.

I was jabbing at the people who give credence to Gruden's words when it is indeed his job to hype up every QB he interviews.

@boo-fagley said:

Its gotten ridiculous hasnt it?

Watching the Mingo video shaking my head.

That's his job. When he's coaching it's a different ball game with him.

EDIT: Besides I'd rather watch his pressers after games than Huey Fig Newton Fester.

@boo-fagley said:

Mayfield lit up a lot of chump teams with sieves for defenses.

UTEP, Tulane, Kansas Jaybirds, Tejas Tech, Baylor. He has Micky Tribisky written all over him. Just watch, around draft time the pundits will blow him up to be Dan Marino.

Gruden would say that he has all the tools to be a great NFL QB...which he tells every single QB he meets.