<![CDATA[Which draftable QB has the best mechanics?]]> I want a big, tall, strong QB with a strong arm.   But mechanics are important.....and it's AWFULLY hard (if not impossible) to train into a QB at this point in his career.  

Tebow had the motion of a starting pitcher.....and they worked HARD to train that out of him but when the game got going he was back on the mound with nobody on base.

If it's Rosen that looks like he was born to be an NFL QB...then that's who I want to roll the dice on.

I'm thinking that our new 'football' people that the building in Berea is being stocked with will be looking for 2 QB's.  A veteran to start and an incredibly high draft pick (#1 I would bet) to groom as the future franchise QB.  -  No rushing the draft pick onto the field.  He can learn the nuances of playing under center, reading defenses, etc., even tweaking footwork or motion....but major mechanical flaws in a QB's motion will be there forever IMO....so I want the guy who needs the least tweaking to look like an NFL passer.

Who meets that criteria?

---------- ps...what a friggin' snow storm we had here in New England today.  I'm friggin' beat!  

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/48984/which-draftable-qb-has-the-best-mechanicsRSS for NodeThu, 01 Oct 2026 02:31:34 GMTFri, 05 Jan 2018 02:27:06 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:15:02 GMT]]> ...again, he kinda' reminds me of McCown.....a tough, old school type, tackle football quarterback.    - with mechanics issues.

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@orion said:

He's the quiet leader.  Squeaky clean off the field.  A son any mother would love.  

I like him.  Reminds me a bit of McCown.  Finds a way to win.  Not the best mechanics.  He's working with Jordan Parmer.  His Pro Day will be something to attend.  (fortunately Farmer is no longer here.  He wouldn't see any need to go.)  

Yea, OK, but:

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@the-gipper said:

Darnold has a face only a mother could love....so I don't get that one.

He's the quiet leader.  Squeaky clean off the field.  A son any mother would love.  

I like him.  Reminds me a bit of McCown.  Finds a way to win.  Not the best mechanics.  He's working with Jordan Parmer.  His Pro Day will be something to attend.  (fortunately Farmer is no longer here.  He wouldn't see any need to go.)  

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/777516https://brownsboard.com/post/777516Mon, 12 Mar 2018 23:27:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 20:02:37 GMT]]> Darnold has the best mechanics ....he goes to Gatto's

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@tiamat63 said:

Given the senior bowl practices and at times when you just see Allen 'scanning' for an open receiver... evidence does tend to point towards Rosen mechanically and mentally. 

oh, it's true his mechanics are there above the rest - everybody admits it. I'm just not a fan of the whole picture, that's all. It's going to be interesting watching how it all plays out.

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@orion said:

It's a couple months later........and I think I STILL want the QB with the best mechanics.

Rosen = best mechanics

Mayfield = most accurate

Darnald = most lovable

Allen = strongest arm

Darnold has a face only a mother could love....so I don't get that one.

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@calfoxwc said:

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Given the senior bowl practices and at times when you just see Allen 'scanning' for an open receiver... evidence does tend to point towards Rosen mechanically and mentally. 

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]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/777351https://brownsboard.com/post/777351Mon, 12 Mar 2018 11:26:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 04:38:36 GMT]]> Rosen and it's not close.  He's the pick at #1.  I felt this way after the usc game,  feel it more now. 

His arm strength is very good.  He threw three bombs in a row at the combine right in stride. He's made big throws all year. 

Most execs that met with him said he's the most advanced by far, and impressed the most.  He understands the game more than the others. 

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@calfoxwc said:

Patrick Mahomes’ mechanics needed fixing. The Chiefs are doing it.

...and we'll be seeing how that works out.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/777332https://brownsboard.com/post/777332Mon, 12 Mar 2018 02:53:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 02:49:01 GMT]]> http://www.nfl.com/draft/2018/profiles/josh-rosen?id=2560059

Weaknesses

Durability is a concern. Carries slight build and has had injury issues dating back to high school. Carries ball low in pocket with slight upward pre-throw hitch. Too casual in pocket set-up. Decision making and post-snap reads are inconsistent. Refuses easy throws at times. Arm talent and strength are below average. May need to make greater effort to drive field and seam throws. Poor career deep ball completion rate. Excess air under ball allows challenges. Lacks gun to challenge safeties with rip throws over the top. Needs better anticipation. Poor mobility. Struggles to elude early pressure. Completed just 42.4 percent of his throws when forced to move. Too much hero ball. Extends plays and takes unnecessary chances rather than throwing it away. Scouts question his passion for football and whether he will be a willing student.

Draft Projection

Round 1

Sources Tell Us

"He wasn't the guy everyone rallied around in college and you don't have to dig around for too long to find people who said he was hard to coach. He's definitely talented. Nobody questions that. But he's going to have to get grown men to buy into him as their leader. That is not a given." -- NFL Executive

NFL Comparison

Trent Green

Bottom Line

Josh Rosen's footwork and mechanics make him as pretty a quarterback as you will find in this year's draft. The biggest concern with Rosen is that his on-field success requires many elements to stay on schedule. He lacks plus arm strength, so identifying coverage (pre- and post-snap) and throwing with anticipation takes on added importance. Rosen has the pocket poise, accuracy and intelligence to become a good NFL starter, but he needs to be willing to take what defenses give him more frequently. Rosen will need to quell concerns surrounding leadership and coachability early on in order to establish a strong first impression and get his career off on the right foot.]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/777328https://brownsboard.com/post/777328Mon, 12 Mar 2018 02:49:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 02:45:06 GMT]]> then there's Faulk who has excellent mechanics...

https://www.bigblueview.com/2018/2/27/17052964/2018-nfl-draft-prospect-profile-luke-falk-qb-washington-state-scouting-report-ny-giants

Pros

  • Solid mechanics and has a quick release.
  • Generally an accurate quarterback who makes sound decisions.
  • Isn’t affraid
  • Experienced QB, who has been a starter since 2014, and set records in Washington State’s offense
  • Flashes the ability to throw with touch, timing, and anticipation

Cons

  • Questionable arm strength. Throws lack “zip” and he often under-throws on deep routes.
  • Occasionally questionable decision making or field vision.
  • Bad habit of staring down receivers when he is “pressing”, trying to make a play.
  • Slender build and has been hit a lot in Washington State’s pass-happy offense. Durability could be a concern.
  • “Spread” quarterback who will face a learning curve at the next level.
]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/777326https://brownsboard.com/post/777326Mon, 12 Mar 2018 02:45:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 02:38:56 GMT]]> "sigh"

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2017/6/9/15682584/patrick-mahomes-texas-tech-chiefs

Patrick Mahomes’ mechanics needed fixing. The Chiefs are doing it.

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@orion said:

It's a couple months later........and I think I STILL want the QB with the best mechanics.

Rosen = best mechanics

Mayfield = most accurate

Darnald = most lovable

Allen = strongest arm

I know it was just in a t-shirt, but if you saw Mayfield hitting targets with Ladanian Tomlinson it was damn impressive accuracy. & yeah I know- Wheezy could bust clay pigeons on the fly....  

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@orion said:

It's a couple months later........and I think I STILL want the QB with the best mechanics.

Rosen = best mechanics

Mayfield = most accurate

Donald = most lovable by Daisy

Allen = strongest arm

FIFY😛

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/777303https://brownsboard.com/post/777303Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:42:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Mon, 12 Mar 2018 01:52:04 GMT]]> It's a couple months later........and I think I STILL want the QB with the best mechanics.

Rosen = best mechanics

Mayfield = most accurate

Darnald = most lovable

Allen = strongest arm

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@logicisforsquares said:

You aren’t that new here haha. It is QB/draft season for Browns fans. Happens every year.

Yeah but I didn't check the board for like 3 days and I came back to probably 7 QB threads. That's not normal.

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@dutch-oven said:

But wouldn't holding the ball too low be the cause of the "wind up and pitch" delivery?

Highly doubtful in Darnold's case because he starts it with a sternum high "pat" and then drops it. That is he starts in the correct position, but takes the wrong path.

This as opposed to Kizer who fell into the bad habit his last season at ND of holding the ball low (below chest high) in one hand. Prior to The Combine he worked with George WhatsHisFace, the QB guru. By simply correcting his starting point to two hands on the ball at sternum height and associating that with the proper ball path to the throwing position,  his looping windup disappeared.

That said, as soon as Kizer had to move the left hand came off the ball and the loop came back. It's the reversion under pressure Orion mentioned.

Worst wind up ever? Former MLB pitching prospect Brandon "Wheezy" Weedon. Ball dropped down from his chest to thigh high at times.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/762167https://brownsboard.com/post/762167Sat, 06 Jan 2018 20:28:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Which draftable QB has the best mechanics? on Sat, 06 Jan 2018 20:09:57 GMT]]> I think that if Lamar Jackson lands with the right team, a team whose starter has a similar skill set, e.g., Seattle or Buffalo, then he has a shot at developing into a starter level NFL QB.

@dutch-oven said:

Darnold should have gone back to USC, and I'm saying this knowing there's a great chance he's taken in the top 5.

That's why he came out. Top 5 $$$...

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@orion said:

But the 'Wind up and the pitch' are harder to fix.  I'd prefer someone who's got the most correct mechanical things already ingrained into their persona.

But wouldn't holding the ball too low be the cause of the "wind up and pitch" delivery? Because the ball is around his waist, it has to be raised way up, like he's a baseball pitcher?

If it is something difficult to fix (almost hard-wired which is what I think you are saying) then this would be something the Browns need to consider.

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@dutch-oven said:

QBs holding the ball too low is a common problem that can be fixed.

But the 'Wind up and the pitch' are harder to fix.  I'd prefer someone who's got the most correct mechanical things already ingrained into their persona.

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@orion said:

I'm just not so sure that things like that actually get 'cleaned up'.  Sure, they'll work on it...and he might get better at it in practice and drills......but once the games start and he's in the heat of battle they tend to go right back to what they always, kind of naturally, did.   

Sitting behind Favre for three years helped, but Aaron Rodgers reworked his delivery.

QBs holding the ball too low is a common problem that can be fixed. Its not like he's Bernie Kosar trying to go from throwing side arm to throwing completely overhand like Peyton Manning.

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