@tour2ma said:

Sequels or prequels vs. remakes... different animals. Godfather 2 was the rare Sequel/Prequel combo...

Italian Job remake was pretty good, but not better IMO.

Never saw the Thomas Crown remake, but on IMDb the original wins 7.0 to 6.8.

Maybe you should watch it.  Starring Pierce Brosnan/Renee Russo.   It had a much lighter touch...which in this case translates to much better.  (Original with McQueen and Faye Dunaway was a dull affair.

@tour2ma said:

Sequels or prequels vs. remakes... different animals. Godfather 2 was the rare Sequel/Prequel combo...

Yes sequels, prequels, remakes made people like Stallone and Schwarzenegger very wealthy, do we live in a great country or what? A great Hollywood invention! 

Hmmmmm, Rocky dos, not bad I remember watching it once on the Spanish HBO to check out my Español. 

Italian Job remake was pretty good, but not better IMO.

Never saw the Thomas Crown remake, but on IMDb the original wins 7.0 to 6.8.

@tour2ma said:

Isn't that true of every remake ever except Ben Hur?

Actually. No.   Some remakes were better than the originals imo.    The Italian Job. The Thomas Crowne Affair...just to think of a couple off the top of my head. 

... and the Heston remake was really only superior to the Novarro silent version because of... ummm... sound.

... of course then there was the 2016 remake for some unknown reason.

@tour2ma said:

Isn't that true of every remake ever except Ben Hur?

... and the Heston remake was really only superior to the Novarro silent version because of... ummm... sound.

... of course then there was the 2016 remake for some unknown reason.

Godfather II? Oh Star Trek II my favorite Kahn! Terminator II. Jaw 2, well you're right the rest of the sequels throughout time all stunk.

@mjp28 said:

... the remake basically stunk. 

Isn't that true of every remake ever except Ben Hur?

... and the Heston remake was really only superior to the Novarro silent version because of... ummm... sound.

... of course then there was the 2016 remake for some unknown reason.

@dutch-oven said:

You are confusing the actor James Hampton, who plays the character Caretaker, for Ned Beatty. Hampton also is known for being the dad in Teen Wolf and the psychiatrist in Slingblade.

I was talking about Nate Scarboro, the coach of the convicts, who was an ex-NFL player (NY Giants) who goes in for one game and gets injured by the guards.

Oh yeah I was thinking of the more or less on field leader also from  Deliverance and the famous  (but strange) Bandit from Smokey and the Bandit.....rednecks loved that one. Also I haven't seen the original Longest Yard in about 100 years plus the remake basically stunk. 

@dutch-oven said:

I was talking about Nate Scarboro, the coach of the convicts, who was an ex-NFL player (NY Giants) who goes in for one game and gets injured by the guards.

Nate also was the "Let's be careful out there" Sargent on Hill St. Blues.

@canton-mike said:

Tour, I thought Coleman was a 2 year LT at Auburn. Joe had said he thought Coleman might one day succeed him at LT.

@wargograw said:

I thought he was on the left side at least in his last year there.

I got that wrong. I was just going by memory Shon being "the other guy" at Auburn vs. Greg Robinson when in fact they had little overlap. Found this in Shon's Draft profile:

The past two seasons, Coleman has held down the blind side spot, starting every game and receiving second team All-SEC honors from league coaches.

So with a mulligan, I'd say his chances are better to succeed Joe at LT than I was giving him, but he still has a ways to go.

@dutch-oven said:

The guy in the original "The Longest Yard" did it.

You mean the Burt Reynolds character...or someone else?

@mjp28 said:

You mean the Deliverance guy? The former FSU star Burt Reynolds? 

You are confusing the actor James Hampton, who plays the character Caretaker, for Ned Beatty. Hampton also is known for being the dad in Teen Wolf and the psychiatrist in Slingblade.

I was talking about Nate Scarboro, the coach of the convicts, who was an ex-NFL player (NY Giants) who goes in for one game and gets injured by the guards.

@canton-mike said:

Tour, I thought Coleman was a 2 year LT at Auburn. Joe had said he thought Coleman might one day succeed him at LT.

Mike

I thought he was on the left side at least in his last year there.

@dutch-oven said:

The guy in the original "The Longest Yard" did it.

You mean the Deliverance guy? The former FSU star Burt Reynolds? 

@tour2ma said:

Joe was better on Day 2. In no small part due to a pairing today with Teddy Bruski, so there was a lot more serious football conversation between the laughs.

And Joe's already a "player-coach"... just untitled.

For LT? Doubtful... he's developing at RT, but to flip sides? Doubtful... Since he was a RT at Auburn, he may not have played the left side since High School.

I have to assume that was a factor in not flipping him when Joe went down.

Tour, I thought Coleman was a 2 year LT at Auburn. Joe had said he thought Coleman might one day succeed him at LT.

Mike

@the-gipper said:

The hell with letting Joe go into media.....maybe the Browns should just  make him their "Player Coach"

Fritz Pollard did it.    George Halas did it.  Curly Lambeau did it.   Jimmy Conzelman did it.  And FYI, so did Tom Landry...though not HC.   He both played DB and was the Defensive Coordinator for the NY Giants.

So, maybe Joe can be both player and OL coach at least.

The guy in the original "The Longest Yard" did it.

@texasag1969 said:

So playoffs or bust this fall. OK-I'll wait.

And Joe's already a "player-coach"... just untitled.

@wargograw said:

Tour, is Shon Coleman ready?

For LT? Doubtful... he's developing at RT, but to flip sides? Doubtful... Since he was a RT at Auburn, he may not have played the left side since High School.

I have to assume that was a factor in not flipping him when Joe went down.

@mjp28 said:

Yeah the jocks do the announcers combine to see if they can say big words and such.......so how'd Joe do?

joe is joe he will tell ya how it is none of that pc cowpoop,so yep he did a good job

@syd said:

he was also on first take

so what this tells me is that he is making his rounds at espn planning on making his next career move say bye bye to joe folks

It depends. It sounds like if we sign a veteran QB (Smith or Cousins) and  spend some money in FA, Joe will be back. Otherwise he’ll ride off into the sunset

Fritz Pollard did it.    George Halas did it.  Curly Lambeau did it.   Jimmy Conzelman did it.  And FYI, so did Tom Landry...though not HC.   He both played DB and was the Defensive Coordinator for the NY Giants.

So, maybe Joe can be both player and OL coach at least.

@claretbrown said:

Got a link?? 

Lol my bad I was drinking

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.si.com/nfl/2018/01/23/cleveland-browns-hue-jackson-head-coach

Joe is a better writer than many of the beat writers.

@logicisforsquares said:

I think Drango was the one who played in Joe's place. For those who do like PFF, it says that Drango played pretty piss poor.

Happens quite often the heralded superstar followed by the bum replacement.

Maybe he can be like Brady and hang around until after his prime and EVERY team can figure him out and he'll stink, oooops a ghoolism just snuck out.