@tour2ma said:

In:

• Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
• Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
• Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
• Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.

Honorable mentions...

• Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
• Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.

From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...

• Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
• Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.

From the Contributor List:

• Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...

I've been going over my choices and they're pretty close to yours so I'll take a X2 or maybe a "ditto" plus I'm lazy and don't want to retype them.

Brazil I never thought about and R. Lewis GOAT?  Maybe, maybe not.

@nickers said:

There'll never be another Butkus.. Nitshcke and Huff are about the closest...Bounaconti Was pretty stallwart , too...

I should have added- Butkus was the Jim Brown at his position....   

@hoorta said:

30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus. 

There'll never be another Butkus.. Nitshcke and Huff are about the closest...Bounaconti Was pretty stallwart , too...

@tour2ma said:

Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.

How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?

30? there was never a more devastating force @ MLB than Butkus. Period. End of discussion. Notice the way he destroyed a pretty good Browns offense? If you schemed, you could take Ray out of a game. Couldn't do that with Butkus. Plus the Little Criminal was surrounded by a bunch of HOF talent- like Ed Reed. Not so Mr. Bear. Lewis might be best modern era, but pales in comparison to Butkus. 

@nickers said:

ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..

The guy that most people mixed him up with was Bobo Brazil.

@the-gipper said:

He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.

ok Its Robert Brazile now that name I remember well.... I remember the Browns had a Larry Brazile.. Wonder if they were related..

@nickers said:

Who the phuck is Robert Brazie?.. I never even heard of him.. Everson walls is a huge reach for me.. He was good.. but I didnt see greatness in him.. Minnifield and Dixon were far better...

He was the leader of the Houston Oilers defenses that pushed the Steelers back during their dynasty. Outstanding player.

Z

So hard to compare generations but interesting chit-chat. 

@hoorta said:

Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games.

@nickers said:

These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was....

Appreciate the delusional underestimation of my age, but I stand by my assessment.

How many Butkis games are in your bunch, h? Three?

@nickers said:

These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember  the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!

EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!

Hardest hitter ever? Certainly in the conversation. "Every time he hit you he tried to put you in the cemetery, not the hospital."

@hoorta said:

Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him...  Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure. 

Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction. 

These kids have 0 clue how badass Butkus was..... I remember  the second browns game i went to... It was Cleveland and Chicago.. Poor Mike Phipps was a beat up rag doll by games end...... Butkus was in our backfield on every play... Ray Lewis?.. GTFOH .. Ray Lewis couldnt carry Butkus's Jock!

EDIT: Butkus was even smaller than Ray Lewis... The guy was a pure warrior beast!

@tour2ma said:

In:

• Ray Lewis LB... my MLB GOAT
• Randy Moss WR... in the conversation for WR GOAT.
• Steve Hutchinson OL... simply one of the best interior OL of all-time... and arguably THE GOAT inside.
• Brian Dawkins DB... one of the best FS of all-time... and played a long, long time.

Honorable mentions...

• Brian Urlacher LB... toughest omission and first alternate who is hurt by the presence of my MLB GOAT.
• Tony Boselli OL... great, great LT that would make a stronger GOAT case, but for injury... and the existence of HoF LT Anthony Munoz.

From the Senior Committee the following were nominated: I'd let them both in...

• Jerry Kramer... may be the only OL legend from the old Pack not in the HoF?
• Robert Brazile... Good to see Robert get some love. He was a fixture at ROLB in the Oliers' 3-4 for a decade... and a physical specimen.

From the Contributor List:

• Bobby Beathard... sure... why not...

Ray Lewis MLB GOAT? Sorry young 'un, you probably never saw a bunch of D-ick Butkus' games. That's why the College LB award is named after him...  Urlacher was probably 1\2 as good, and he made it in- so what does that tell you? I might even take another Bear- Mike Singletary ahead of "the Little Criminal". If you think I'm going Cal on you- maybe so. Ray's posse killed a couple guys and Lewis (after he agreed to testify) couldn't remember what happened. Sure. 

@wargograw said:

I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?

Nope, they got voted in now. Yes, "official" ceremony is in Canton before the HOF Game. Good thing Modell is never getting in. It's an hour drive from Cleveland, and we got truckloads of rotten tomatoes ready for his induction. 

@wargograw said:

I never understood the timeline on this thing. So they announce the nominees now. Pick them in a couple weeks. Then don't actually do the ceremony until August?

Ray Lewis LB

Terrell Owens WR

Randy Moss WR\

Allan Faneca OL

*****************************************

*** Maybe ***

Steve Hutchinson OL

Brian Urlacher LB

Tony Boselli OL

Isaac Bruce WR

Egerrin James RB

John Lynch DB

*** YEP! ***

Brian Dawkins DB

Joe Jacoby OL

Kevin Mawae Ol

Ty Law DB

Everson Walls DB

Jerry Kramer

Of all the candidates....only Everson Walls has a connection with the Browns.   He played here the last 2 years of his career...1992/93.

Should we be pulling for him?

http://www.nfl.com/qs/hofvote/index.jsp

Freddy Bilitnikoff(?) loved him some stickum, too.

Still trying to wrap my head around Lester Hayes... the 2nd best CB in Raider history behind the very great HoFer, Mark Haynes... not being very good....

Nope...

Can't do it...