@calfoxwc said:

Minkah is SHORT ???

He is 6'1"    Not short for a CB or safety...by any means.

@diehardbrownsfan said:

Skippin must be from Cintucki.

Skippin has been slippin memory wise lately.  I'm going to stop posting for awhile.  I'll let you guys fix the team.

@skippinturtles said:

Take the QB at #1 and Edmunds at #4.  Fitzpatrick is short without a true position, just like Peppers.  Edmunds has the talent to be the best LB in football.  

Peppers was a great athlete who had questionable production from numerous defensive positions. A jack of all trades, master of none. 

Fitzpatrick is very good prospect at two different positions. He's practically another coach in the backfield, and Saban absolutely loves the kid. 

@skippinturtles said:

1. Drafting for need instead of BPA always works out. 
2. This team needs talent. 
3. Taking a potential superstar linebacker if he's the best player available will always make sense.

So of these #1 is sarcastic?

@skippinturtles said:

Take the QB at #1 and Edmunds at #4.  Fitzpatrick is short without a true position, just like Peppers.  Edmunds has the talent to be the best LB in football.  

6’1 at FS is short? Well at least you didn’t compare him to Khalil Mack.

@logicisforsquares said:

Edmunds is not some generational talent. Need also happens to coincide with talent this year (QB, FS) in the top five.

Take the QB at #1 and Edmunds at #4.  Fitzpatrick is short without a true position, just like Peppers.  Edmunds has the talent to be the best LB in football.  

@skippinturtles said:

He's a tackle-for-loss machine.  Last guy like that was Khalil Mack.  Mack wasn't a pass rusher out of college but had the potential.  Same as Edmunds.  This guy is 19 and already dominant.  With more experience he looks like a perennial All-Pro.  Freak athlete.  6'5", 250 lbs. with sideline to sideline range and the power and arm length to take on O-Lineman.  Can flip his hips and cover.  Not projected to go top 5, but some team is going to get a steal.  He's in on every play.  Would be fan favorite right away.  

See.................. and so it begins. Idiotic draft logic. The Browns pick #1 and #4, have the weakest offensive weapons in the NFL, and someone wants to draft Zumba insructor #2.

Unless the Browns trade the #4 up to #2 and take a QB and Barkely, they will again have a schidt draft. After taking a QB at #1 they will scratch their balls over what to do at #4 because Barkely will be gone. Watch for these idiots to trade down and waste their pick on an OL.

@skippinturtles said:

Drafting for need instead of BPA always works out.  This team needs talent.  Taking a potential superstar linebacker if he's the best player available will always make sense.  Injuries in the NFL can turn a strength into a weakness real quick.  0-16 teams should lean toward best player available.  Loading up the front 7 with no future Ronnie Lott or Deion Sanders available seems reasonable.

Edmunds is not some generational talent. Need also happens to coincide with talent this year (QB, FS) in the top five.

@logicisforsquares said:

This is like pushing for buying a new car while homeless. LBs are not an issue for the team right now. It is wayy down on the list of needs.

Drafting for need instead of BPA always works out.  This team needs talent.  Taking a potential superstar linebacker if he's the best player available will always make sense.  Injuries in the NFL can turn a strength into a weakness real quick.  0-16 teams should lean toward best player available.  Loading up the front 7 with no future Ronnie Lott or Deion Sanders available seems reasonable.  Edmunds is an athletic freak.

@dutch-oven said:

"SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 

@skippinturtles said:

Fitzpatrick is projected to go #4 but he's not a pure center-fielder like Malik Hooker last year.  Edmunds can make plays all over the field with ideal size and speed.

This is like pushing for buying a new car while homeless. LBs are not an issue for the team right now. It is wayy down on the list of needs.

@orion said:

We play defense with 10 guys.....and Peppers in punt return formation.  If we were to go D at #4 I would HOPE it would be for the FS so as to bring Peppers up closer to the LOS where he was effective in college.

Fitzpatrick is projected to go #4 but he's not a pure center-fielder like Malik Hooker last year.  Edmunds can make plays all over the field with ideal size and speed.

@dutch-oven said:

"SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 

@dutch-oven said:

Anyone concerned about the idea of using the 4th overall pick on a 19 year old?

Of course it's all a crap shoot, but man, 19?  

I feel you on the age thing.  His production is legit at 19.  The kid is a proven player with unlimited potential.  His athleticism and body type don't exist really at LB.  He's a match-up nightmare.  Plays sideline to sideline, stuffs the run and flips his hips in coverage.  6'5", 250 lbs.  He's 19 and could anchor the LB corps until 2030.  Worth the #4?  Yes.

Of course it's all a crap shoot, but man, 19?  

@tiamat63 said:

I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

"SAY WHAT ONE MORE MOTHERShmuckING TIME!" 

@skippinturtles said:

Wouldn't Edmunds make the LB corps the best in the division?  He seems like a perfect fit at ILB.  Making plays all over the field, against the run and pass.

if our plan was to replace Collins this season? Than maybe Edmunds would be in the mix of need with Fitzpatrick or Upgrading Ogbah/Nassib with Chubbs. Edmonds looks to be a better depth role behind Collins beating out Burgess but not at #4 .Hokies Bud Foster defensive coach maybe the best of molding a kids defensive talent I've seen. Edmunds is a young 19 yr. old freak watching alot of ACC. Again were watching a Highlight reel. If ya watch his Full game Lowlights tape, watch for his some times wrong guessing by losing track of ball or ball carrier over his coverage assignments.Smooth deep drops but sometimes leaving to much cushion in front of him.I'd  at times question that hip flip.ACC has not been known for TE coverage experts..When he gets to big leagues. TE will see some real TE's     

Edmunds is very, very good - but adding a FS/CB/QB (the right ones) would be far more dramatic than adding a lb,

due to serious needs.

@skippinturtles said:

You're the scout.  Is Chubb a bigger Mack?

Its Big Mac ....come on man get your burgers right

@hoorta said:

If you look at what the Browns have at LB, I wouldn't take Edmunds @ #4.  We're going to be counting on Garrett and Ogbah to supply qb pressure, and the defensive secondary is higher priority. With a couple guys rated just as high at their respective positions. 

Wouldn't Edmunds make the LB corps the best in the division?  He seems like a perfect fit at ILB.  Making plays all over the field, against the run and pass.

@tiamat63 said:

I swear to Christ Almighty, if you say Mack one more time....  

My bad.  Really just wanted to throw Edmunds into the conversation at #4.