<![CDATA[Hercules Mata'afa]]> Any thoughts on this guy? I've seen a few games,  and he's a force.  He's only 6'2 about 245lbs. But his stats and film are excellent.  He's like a mini Bosa. Is he too small for the NFL? Thoughts? 

http://www.cfbstats.com/2017/player/754/1066064/index.html

]]>https://brownsboard.com/topic/49456/hercules-mata-afaRSS for NodeFri, 02 Oct 2026 00:33:25 GMTSun, 25 Feb 2018 19:49:50 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Wed, 28 Feb 2018 01:06:51 GMT]]> Certainly I know that today, at 245, that's LB size, NOT DL. NFL teams will definitely rule him in or out as a LB or situational rusher.

Mike

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@sd_tom said:

He's listed at 255. Yes,  I'm wondering if any team would take him late based on how good he's looked. 

He's a beast on the field.  They could possibly switch positions with him.  

If he can play LB, sure.

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@dutch-oven said:

Wait, is this serious? A 245lb DTackle in 2018?

He's listed at 255. Yes,  I'm wondering if any team would take him late based on how good he's looked. 

He's a beast on the field.  They could possibly switch positions with him.  

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@dutch-oven said:

Wait, is this serious? A 245lb DTackle in 2018?

I think he would be more of a "Middle Guard"....which makes him more of a Middle Linebacker than a DT.

If he has plans to play in the NFL at that weight...that is what he would have to be. 

I think Joe Schobert was listed at like 230 when he was drafted...but is now up to like 245.   So that would be the way for this guy to go.

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@tiamat63 said:

Quick wiki search shows they replaced Hynoski with Whit...  plus saw a few snaps in obvious pass rushing situations.    So when you get that kind of value... sure?  But his primary function with the Gmen appears to have been FB seeing as how he had double the offensive snaps.  

Wasn’t arguing that. 

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/774240https://brownsboard.com/post/774240Tue, 27 Feb 2018 03:10:31 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Mon, 26 Feb 2018 23:57:45 GMT]]> Wait, is this serious? A 245lb DTackle in 2018?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/774202https://brownsboard.com/post/774202Mon, 26 Feb 2018 23:57:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Mon, 26 Feb 2018 18:01:13 GMT]]> Given that DL is one of our strengths I don't think we spend a pick on him.

He had 1/4 of his season tackles in one game.  Take away the 8 solo tackles he had against Utah and he's averaging under 2 solo per game..  He's currently slotted below even Tyquan Lewis in DE ratings for the NFL.

He's no Bosa.. because Bosa holds point against the run as well as rush the passer. He's at best a pure pass rush/ST player.  I don't know how he plays in space -- is he agile enough to stay with backs and slot receivers? Doubtful or else he wouldn't have played college in the trenches..

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/774140https://brownsboard.com/post/774140Mon, 26 Feb 2018 18:01:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Mon, 26 Feb 2018 15:23:36 GMT]]> I always liked his theme song:

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@wargograw said:

No. DT. 

Quick wiki search shows they replaced Hynoski with Whit...  plus saw a few snaps in obvious pass rushing situations.    So when you get that kind of value... sure?  But his primary function with the Gmen appears to have been FB seeing as how he had double the offensive snaps.  

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@wargograw said:

Nikita Whitlock had some moments in New York. 

He is in Canada for a reason.

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@tiamat63 said:

... at fullback?

No. DT. 

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@canton-mike said:

Bottom line is....A football player is a football player and, if he's good enough & driven enough, he'll MAKE a place for himself.

Mike

Tim Tebow. 

@canton-mike said:

You never saw Alan Page (HOF DT) at 245 lbs? He played all through the 1970s.

Mike

Clearly not.  Also worth considering the average lineman size in the 70's.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/774029https://brownsboard.com/post/774029Mon, 26 Feb 2018 02:05:04 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Mon, 26 Feb 2018 01:24:00 GMT]]> Bottom line is....A football player is a football player and, if he's good enough & driven enough, he'll MAKE a place for himself.

Mike

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/774024https://brownsboard.com/post/774024Mon, 26 Feb 2018 01:24:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:37:59 GMT]]> Apparently he was also a 2x state runner up in wrestling. We'll see what he weighs at the combine. 

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@tiamat63 said:

Never saw a 245LB interior lineman in my lifetime succeed at the NFL level.  

You never saw Alan Page (HOF DT) at 245 lbs? He played all through the 1970s.

Mike

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@tiamat63 said:

Never saw a 245LB interior lineman in my lifetime succeed at the NFL level.  

Might I ask when did you start watching football?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/774007https://brownsboard.com/post/774007Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:24:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:32:40 GMT]]> Could he be converted to a LB? I guess espn has him at 255...which probably means more like 250 or lighter.  He defies his size when you see the film.  

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@wargograw said:

Nikita Whitlock had some moments in New York. 

... at fullback?

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@tiamat63 said:

Never saw a 245LB interior lineman in my lifetime succeed at the NFL level.  

Nikita Whitlock had some moments in New York. 

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/773982https://brownsboard.com/post/773982Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:11:57 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Hercules Mata'afa on Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:03:02 GMT]]> Never saw a 245LB interior lineman in my lifetime succeed at the NFL level.  

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