Courtland Sutton

@sd_tom said:

Sam Darnold.  

http://realballinsiders.com/blog/2018/02/27/sam-darnold-will-biggest-bust-2018/

That worries me too.

WSS

http://realballinsiders.com/blog/2018/02/27/sam-darnold-will-biggest-bust-2018/

@calfoxwc said:

perhaps you need to define "BUST" then.

Why? Can't you figure it out.   Point is....this is NOT yours or anyone else's place to tout your boy as a savior.....as you would for Allen.  It is your place to say who you think would...in your opinion and by your definition be a bust.  Your yipes about Rosen are appropriate...if that is what you believe. You and Boo can go to the Camp Allen thread all you want and blow his horn (or in Boo's case...some other part of his anatomy)  But not here.

@boo-fagley said:

Allen is going be a stud. 

I believe that Barkley will be gone by 4 but Dorsey seems to have an eye for RBs.

This thread is NOT about who will become studs....but about who will become busts.   Any name you mention in this thread is a candidate for being a busts....so if you say Allen....it would be assumed that he is bust material.   If you don't want that inference...don't say the name....say the name that you DO want the inference to be applied to.

Zombo said:

Wimbley not a DL either.

Willis Adams was good ... Lawyer Tillman?

DL ... Courtney Brown is an easy one. 

Zombo

OK, the Courtney Brown Award for DL who were busts.  

@dutch-oven said:

Wouldn't shock me if the Browns do pick Allen.

The Browns haven't gone a generation without a playoff win by accident. 

Nothing last forever.

If the Eagles can win a Super Bowl there is hope for the Browns.

Josh Allen is being drafted two days early

The Cameron Erving  Award at OL goes to:

Orlando Brown 

pick up both an OT and a qb, either Mason Rudolph, if Buffalo picked Rosen, or Buffalo picks Rudolph, and Miami

picks Rosen and an OT/pass rusher with their other pick. Rosen could fall all the way down to the twenties. Seems that nobody is predicted to be drafting a qb from 12 to 20.

@boo-fagley said:

Whats going to happen when the Browns take Allen?

This place will blow up and you all will go Ghoolie. Im going to laugh because Allen is right pick.

Wouldn't shock me if the Browns do pick Allen.

The Browns haven't gone a generation without a playoff win by accident. 

@texasag1969 said:

Some of us anticipate boo, PoG and you and go negative before you can all chime in positive. LOL!

Whats going to happen when the Browns take Allen?

This place will blow up and you all will go Ghoolie. Im going to laugh because Allen is right pick.

@calfoxwc said:

Mel Kiper? say, here's his mock draft 2.0.

Still has Josh Allen going #1 to the Browns.

Rosen falls out of the top ten, to Miami. I think that is how it will play out.

Unless Rosen falls to 22. Kinda doubtful, though. Unless he slips and falls, and gets

a concussion from hitting his ping pong table which replaced his hot tub.....

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/2018-nfl-mock-draft-20-mel-kipers-picks/story?id=53388452

11. Miami Dolphins

* Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA

If Rosen drops to No. 11, Miami has to pounce. This is a pick for the best player available.? Ryan Tannehill is coming off a torn ACL that caused him to miss all of the 2017 season, and the Dolphins could part ways with him next year.? Jay Cutler is a free agent. This quarterback situation isn't resolved. Rosen is the most polished quarterback in this class when he's at his best, and he has rare arm talent. But he was inconsistent in 2017 and dealt with a serious shoulder injury in 2016. His medical reports and interviews with teams at the combine will be extremely important. Miami could also target an offensive tackle or pass-rusher.

Allen is going be a stud. 

I believe that Barkley will be gone by 4 but Dorsey seems to have an eye for RBs.

@boo-fagley said:

Ok Mel Kiper

Mel Kiper? say, here's his mock draft 2.0.

Still has Josh Allen going #1 to the Browns.

Rosen falls out of the top ten, to Miami. I think that is how it will play out.

Unless Rosen falls to 22. Kinda doubtful, though. Unless he slips and falls, and gets

a concussion from hitting his ping pong table which replaced his hot tub.....

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/2018-nfl-mock-draft-20-mel-kipers-picks/story?id=53388452

11. Miami Dolphins

* Josh Rosen, QB, UCLA

If Rosen drops to No. 11, Miami has to pounce. This is a pick for the best player available.? Ryan Tannehill is coming off a torn ACL that caused him to miss all of the 2017 season, and the Dolphins could part ways with him next year.? Jay Cutler is a free agent. This quarterback situation isn't resolved. Rosen is the most polished quarterback in this class when he's at his best, and he has rare arm talent. But he was inconsistent in 2017 and dealt with a serious shoulder injury in 2016. His medical reports and interviews with teams at the combine will be extremely important. Miami could also target an offensive tackle or pass-rusher.

@the-gipper said:

For all time busts....which is the subject of this thread?

Ok Mel Kiper

@hoorta said:

If you want to go with the basketball analogy- Barkley is no LeBron, and Allen is another Danny Ferry..  

Good point.

All Barkley and Allen need to do is their jobs along with the other 51 guys. No need to carry the team like James, Shaq or Jordan. The Eagles didnt fold tent when Wentz went down.

@hoorta said:

And Cal needs to lighten up. Anything negative about Allen HAS to be followed up by something negative about Rosen- even if I'm just having some fun in the first place. 

I was just having fun too. Have a nice day.

 https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/nfl/new-york-giants/Bolt/Josh-Rosen-impresses-NFL-teams-in-the-NFL-Combine-meeting-rooms-115907611/Amp

@the-gipper said:

OK....who would you name the award after?   A non-Brown, like Charles Rogers?

And what DL should the Award be named after?   Small Change Warren?  Wimbley?

Wimbley not a DL either.

Willis Adams was good ... Lawyer Tillman?

DL ... Courtney Brown is an easy one. 

Zombo

@hoorta said:

And Cal needs to lighten up. Anything negative about Allen HAS to be followed up by something negative about Rosen- even if I'm just having some fun in the first place. 

Predictable as the sun rising in the east.

But...to be fair...that is what he has said all along....and his opinion there was invited by this thread.

@the-gipper said:

This statement by Texas Ag in another thread tweeked my attention:

I can see this nightmare scenario playing out for the hapless Browns draft gurus. Somehow we end up with Barkley and Allen, the two most likely to bust in their respective positions.

OK...so let's ignore the part about it being the Browns......so, just generally....who do you think are the most likely to bust from this upcoming draft class at various positions:

The Brady Quinn/Brandon Weeden/John P. Manziel  Award at QB goes to:  

Ag says Allen...who am I to disagree?  But...it will probably be whomever the Browns take.  Fair to say?

The Trent Richardson Award at RB goes to: 

Ag says Barkley...who am I to disagree?

The Braylon Edwards/Willis Adams  award at WR/TE goes to:

Calvin Ridley has been said to have had a bad Combine....I guess that is one reason to give him a vote.

  The Cameron Erving  Award at OL goes to:

Orlando Brown Jr. seems to be everyone's candidate.

The Barkevious Mingo  Award at DLine goes to: 

Marcus Davenport  DE, Texas San Antonio.....just because I have to give shite to San Antonio players...where my daughter lives

The Mike Junkin/Clifford Charlton/Craig Powell Award at LB goes to: 

Roquon Smith.  Georgia

The Justin Gilbert Award at DB goes to: 

Derwin James or Minkah Fitzpatrick.....like I said...whomever the Browns pick.

@the-gipper said:

See the title and the OP of this thread.   If you didn't think Allen's name was not going to come up....you were deluding yourself.

And Cal needs to lighten up. Anything negative about Allen HAS to be followed up by something negative about Rosen- even if I'm just having some fun in the first place.