2017  TD's  14 versus 4 Picks

2016 TD's  17 Versus 6 picks

2015 TD's 20 Versus 6 picks

Compare this to the pathetic ELEVEN and TWENTY TWO!!!!!  Of Dishone Kizer.. Imagine having even half of those picks back in critical parts of those games?

I don't know that he is THE MAN. But if he cannot end up like RG3 last year and try and run down a freaking 250 pound linebacker and get knocked out at the start of the season, i think he is poised to do MUCH better.

@tour2ma said:

Interesting factoid...

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Darnold’s timing, accuracy and ball placement against man coverage is lethal. He throws receivers open and makes some tight throws look far more routine than they should be. Not only is he making the receiver’s job easier, but he’s also making it far more difficult for the defense to stop.

Zone defenses, combo coverages, late movements by defenses and defenders able to hold their water and give Darnold a hesitation in his read have given him substantial problems. Darnold will assume coverages and then end up wrong. Many of his interceptions or near interceptions were caused by misreads or assumptions in bad faith by Darnold. This is one of the areas where he’s still learning and still developing.

@tiamat63 said:

That's my fault for the confusio.  I presume when talking about the 2007 draft and the Browns it would have been obvious. 

I didn't know we were talking about the 2007 draft.

@the-gipper said:

Yea....when the name Brady is used in association with QBs....it is Quinn that comes first to mind.  Sure.

That's my fault for the confusio.  I presume when talking about the 2007 draft and the Browns it would have been obvious. 

@tiamat63 said:

Quinn there, champ.  

Yea....when the name Brady is used in association with QBs....it is Quinn that comes first to mind.  Sure.

@the-gipper said:

Not sure where you are coming up with Troy vs. Brady.   Brady was drafted in 2000.....7 years before Troy came out.

Quinn there, champ.  

@tiamat63 said:

Can't hate them for that.  I wanted Troy.  Granted not first round but I liked him more than Brady.  A Cleveland boy that wanted to stay home and wasn't an off field distraction?  Yes please.  

Not sure where you are coming up with Troy vs. Brady.   Brady was drafted in 2000.....7 years before Troy came out.

@tiamat63 said:

Shmuck the fans.  90% of them WANTED Johnny.

Happy to say I was in the minority...   

@dutch-oven said:

Silly gooses, all of them.

They probably were the same fans who wanted the Browns to use the #3 overall pick on Troy Smith. 

Or the the guys who say Saquon at #1, or worse- don't take QB at all this year in the first round. 

@dutch-oven said:

Silly gooses, all of them.

They probably were the same fans who wanted the Browns to use the #3 overall pick on Troy Smith. 

Can't hate them for that.  I wanted Troy.  Granted not first round but I liked him more than Brady.  A Cleveland boy that wanted to stay home and wasn't an off field distraction?  Yes please.  

@tiamat63 said:

Shmuck the fans.  90% of them WANTED Johnny.

Silly gooses, all of them.

They probably were the same fans who wanted the Browns to use the #3 overall pick on Troy Smith. 

@londonbrown said:

Browns fans were very loudly clamouring for Jonny with a 7-4 record, I was in the stadium at the time and heard it first hand. 

You draft a QB at #1 and you start 2-4/2-5 the fans will be demanding you play him. Bank it. 

Shmuck the fans.  90% of them WANTED Johnny.

@londonbrown said:

Browns fans were very loudly clamouring for Jonny with a 7-4 record, I was in the stadium at the time and heard it first hand. 

You draft a QB at #1 and you start 2-4/2-5 the fans will be demanding you play him. Bank it. 

actually the phrase is  "book it" or you could have said "you can take that to the bank" just trying to help man 

@texasag1969 said:

Nevertheless how many times have the Browns rushed in QBs who were not really ready? And if TT is playing well, why not extend him? It's not like he's Brady's age.

Browns fans were very loudly clamouring for Jonny with a 7-4 record, I was in the stadium at the time and heard it first hand. 

You draft a QB at #1 and you start 2-4/2-5 the fans will be demanding you play him. Bank it. 

@texasag1969 said:

And if TT is playing well, why not extend him?

Because we are at the end of the bridge... or should be.

Don't get me wrong, if Tyrod is cheap enough I'd consider him, but I don't think he'll be "cheap". He'll be in that 2nd tier $15mm-ish per year area and still want to start.

@tour2ma said:

More like it took Favre three years to get out of the way.

There's no indication that Rodgers needed to wait one year let alone 3.

Nevertheless how many times have the Browns rushed in QBs who were not really ready? And if TT is playing well, why not extend him? It's not like he's Brady's age.

@texasag1969 said:

Well it took Rodgers 3 years to be ready to take over at GB, so an extension may very well be in order.

More like it took Favre three years to get out of the way.

There's no indication that Rodgers needed to wait one year let alone 3.

@tour2ma said:

If we are forced to sign TT to an extension, then we drafted the wrong QB.

Well it took Rodgers 3 years to be ready to take over at GB, so an extension may very well be in order.

Zombo said:

Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.

Zombo

When's the last time we had any kind of real plan in "team building" with a purpose? not sure who opened who's eyes on Tyrod, from FO to coaches? but it's New..Now to get a roster built with similar planning. Than a coaching staff, preparing their team to weaknesses from weekly game film of opponents..We may just surprise ourselves into finishing some games..a lot to like here..(good find tour)  

@tour2ma said:

This ought to help...

Just beat the Steelers and the flying rats and the bungholes and I'm good with him.

WSS

Zombo said:

Tyrod has great production against Zone Coverage. Our AFC North rivals are among the very top users of zone coverage in the entire league.

Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.

Zombo

I got that much....I am just wondering about the statistics that bear that out. 

@the-gipper said:

What does this mean?   I think you have to flesh this out a bit.

Tyrod has great production against Zone Coverage. Our AFC North rivals are among the very top users of zone coverage in the entire league.

Therefore, he appears to be a shrewd choice for Dorsey and the Browns.

Zombo