@poeticg said:

Cysko, you get the award for dumbest answer!!! Congrats... why would you want the Browns #1 selection to bust? Are you not a Browns fan? 

Well I guess we'll see who looks dumb pretty soon. Me or you. I notice youve been gargling Barkley's fluids for quite a while but fail to take the many monetary bets that have been offered to you. If you were confident that we were taking your crush you could be cleaning up on this. 

As it is im having a hard time understanding you with all those running back Weiners on your mouth-hole. 

@bjh2130 said:

Where did you hear this stat. I am completely against drafting Barkley so i really want to find out the source of this so I can tell my buddies.

Some analyst on Cowherd show. Whether it's a reputable show and he knows much is neither here nor there. They gave the exact numbers and it was quite interesting 

@poeticg said:

So, if you don't want to watch the tape, can't wrap your head around the different type of scheme/playbook/offense he was used in, admit that the lack of quality on the Penn State Offensive Line(are there any OL from Penn State projected to go in the first/second/third rounds?) was paramount in his negative plays, won't accept that a running back that doubles as a WR has extra value and merit in it's own right- you'll simply never understand until whatever "talking head" that you worship decides to give you your opinion. 

Name a Stanford Cardinal OLman in this draft..The best pro style RB decided to stay in school at Stanford.. Bryce Love..Count how many times McSorley stayed under center than exchanged with Barkley.Bryce Love has been doing QB under center exchanges at a much higher rate than Barkley..Compare Loves last season rushing stats to Barkley's....Here's' Bryce Love-263 carries/Bark.217..2118yrds/bark-1271..8.1/carry**Bark 5.9..19tds/bark 18tds..Barkley has been a media darling since combine numbers..but it's football 

@gunz41 said:

I have seen the game films, and I know better than most on here about real game situations, schemes, etc. You CAN'T DISPUTE the numbers I posted earlier. 

If you are trolling, that is fine, if not then my man you have serious problems. Because you aren't following your own rules. You are the one posting highlight videos, and you obviously aren't reading what people say. He is NOT the best prospect in 20 years. And NOBODY knows what he will do in the NFL. TO say you do is asinine. 

And you have raved about his big play ability and even when he was held in check, that he scored so he was so valuable. But he was lowest in that category by the numbers too.

Don't forget he also raved that he has an inside source who says they're taking him #1 but then refuses to take the bets that have been offered.  

Dude is a clown and a troll.  No different than the other troll who resides here.

@poeticg said:

I don't know what stats you guys are going to try and base your opinion on but it really doesn't matter. Watch the film. Not highlight videos- Game tape. Full games. Then come back and give your opinion. If you are just looking at stats you don't have a full understanding in order to form a proper opinion. 

Barkley may have ranked 28th in rushing yards, maybe- I don't know. But then what about his receptions as well, does that not factor in by your account? Barkley is the BEST ALL AROUND running back to come out of the draft in the last 20 years. 

You can't just look at what he did in college, look at what he is capable of doing and what he will be in the NFL. The scheme that Penn State ran was a big part of the reason his numbers look the way they do. If Barkley switched places with Chubb, Sony Michel, Penny or whatever other RB you want to trot out there- Barkley would have destroyed whatever number they put up. 

Saquon was met in the backfield on over 40% of his carries, it's amazing the guy was able to get positive yardage at all.

So, if you don't want to watch the tape, can't wrap your head around the different type of scheme/playbook/offense he was used in, admit that the lack of quality on the Penn State Offensive Line(are there any OL from Penn State projected to go in the first/second/third rounds?) was paramount in his negative plays, won't accept that a running back that doubles as a WR has extra value and merit in it's own right- you'll simply never understand until whatever "talking head" that you worship decides to give you your opinion. 

I have seen the game films, and I know better than most on here about real game situations, schemes, etc. You CAN'T DISPUTE the numbers I posted earlier. 

If you are trolling, that is fine, if not then my man you have serious problems. Because you aren't following your own rules. You are the one posting highlight videos, and you obviously aren't reading what people say. He is NOT the best prospect in 20 years. And NOBODY knows what he will do in the NFL. TO say you do is asinine. 

And you have raved about his big play ability and even when he was held in check, that he scored so he was so valuable. But he was lowest in that category by the numbers too.

@poeticg said:

Cysko, you get the award for dumbest answer!!! Congrats... why would you want the Browns #1 selection to bust? Are you not a Browns fan? 

The Browns are going to take Barkley #1 overall?

I got $100 that says they don't... 

@sd_tom said:

It's like the NFL draft analysts have lost their mind this draft. 

How does the supposed #1 RB rank 28th in rushing yards and the rumored #1 QB pick rank 82nd in passing yards? Think of how ridiculous this sounds. These are the alleged favorites for #1 and #4? 

I don't know what stats you guys are going to try and base your opinion on but it really doesn't matter. Watch the film. Not highlight videos- Game tape. Full games. Then come back and give your opinion. If you are just looking at stats you don't have a full understanding in order to form a proper opinion. 

Barkley may have ranked 28th in rushing yards, maybe- I don't know. But then what about his receptions as well, does that not factor in by your account? Barkley is the BEST ALL AROUND running back to come out of the draft in the last 20 years. 

You can't just look at what he did in college, look at what he is capable of doing and what he will be in the NFL. The scheme that Penn State ran was a big part of the reason his numbers look the way they do. If Barkley switched places with Chubb, Sony Michel, Penny or whatever other RB you want to trot out there- Barkley would have destroyed whatever number they put up. 

Saquon was met in the backfield on over 40% of his carries, it's amazing the guy was able to get positive yardage at all.

So, if you don't want to watch the tape, can't wrap your head around the different type of scheme/playbook/offense he was used in, admit that the lack of quality on the Penn State Offensive Line(are there any OL from Penn State projected to go in the first/second/third rounds?) was paramount in his negative plays, won't accept that a running back that doubles as a WR has extra value and merit in it's own right- you'll simply never understand until whatever "talking head" that you worship decides to give you your opinion. 

@hoorta said:

Some people just won't listen to the disturbing fact- you can't get a clear picture of a prospect just by looking at highlight videos without looking at the lowlight videos. Like the Josh Allen pumpers wowed by his 50 yard on the run ropes- without seeing the times his 20  yard outs from a clean pocket are 10' over his receiver's heads.     

But gee, his Barkley\Allen's surrounding talent was inferior. Not buying it. 

It's like the NFL draft analysts have lost their mind this draft. 

How does the supposed #1 RB rank 28th in rushing yards and the rumored #1 QB pick rank 82nd in passing yards? Think of how ridiculous this sounds. These are the alleged favorites for #1 and #4? 

@gunz41 said:

Just heard a REALLY interesting stat. % of carries 4+ yards, 47%, worst over top 10 back this year, and worst of any back drafted in 1st round. But, I know he is a home run hitter, so % of carries 10+ yards would show how dominant Barkley is, 14.3%, good for LAST in both.

Hmm, but those highlight vids show a different story. It's almost like a highlight video only shows good things, where total numbers show everything. But that certainly couldn't be the case

Some people just won't listen to the disturbing fact- you can't get a clear picture of a prospect just by looking at highlight videos without looking at the lowlight videos. Like the Josh Allen pumpers wowed by his 50 yard on the run ropes- without seeing the times his 20  yard outs from a clean pocket are 10' over his receiver's heads.     

But gee, his Barkley\Allen's surrounding talent was inferior. Not buying it. 

@gunz41 said:

Just heard a REALLY interesting stat. % of carries 4+ yards, 47%, worst over top 10 back this year, and worst of any back drafted in 1st round. But, I know he is a home run hitter, so % of carries 10+ yards would show how dominant Barkley is, 14.3%, good for LAST in both.

Hmm, but those highlight vids show a different story. It's almost like a highlight video only shows good things, where total numbers show everything. But that certainly couldn't be the case

Where did you hear this stat. I am completely against drafting Barkley so i really want to find out the source of this so I can tell my buddies.

Hmm, but those highlight vids show a different story. It's almost like a highlight video only shows good things, where total numbers show everything. But that certainly couldn't be the case

@hoorta said:

You didn't realize this is The Barkley Network preview Channel? Coming in August and September complete game tape, interviews, and commentary of every time Saquon touches the ball !!! I can't wait, what about you?

Followed by the Barkley Bust channel in late Dec.

@mjp28 said:

I got the Barkley Network special, was $499.99 for only $199.99 for a limited time only, good until December 31, 2018 only.

Can't wait to figure out how to open it. 

You didn't realize this is The Barkley Network preview Channel? Coming in August and September complete game tape, interviews, and commentary of every time Saquon touches the ball !!! I can't wait, what about you?

@poeticg said:

Are you afraid you'll learn something?  

Sure....we'll go with that as the answer.  Not that everyone is tired of your act and your homo-erotic, downright creepy stalking fascination of a player that we likely won't draft.

@hoorta said:

 Adding more videos is for your entertainment- no one else's. I'm not wasting my time anymore watching them over a player it's at best 50\50 we're going to draft.

 SERIOUSLY- YOU THINK POSTING MORE VIDEOS IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND AT THIS POINT? I SAID IT BEFORE ONCE ALREADY- YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.

Barkley combined 60 something pages later gumby has not opened a single video. Did I win something? Barkley will be forced into playing the role of Terrance West. Than north,than east, than of course backwards heading South. but not here.. Watch as Elway throws Barkley behind a turdable O-line at pick #5.. 

@tour2ma said:

So many, many videos...

Personally I'll wait for Saquon Live! on Sunday Ticket...

I got the Barkley Network special, was $499.99 for only $199.99 for a limited time only, good until December 31, 2018 only.

Can't wait to figure out how to open it. 

Personally I'll wait for Saquon Live! on Sunday Ticket...

@poeticg said:

Are you afraid you'll learn something?  

We already know everything we need to know about Saquon, and have for at least a month to make an intelligent decision. Adding more videos is for your entertainment- no one else's. I'm not wasting my time anymore watching them over a player it's at best 50\50 we're going to draft.

Just the mere fact you can dredge up more stuff in addition to gee- I don't know-  the 100 or so videos You've already posted proves the hype over this guy is out of control. SERIOUSLY- YOU THINK POSTING MORE VIDEOS IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYONE'S MIND AT THIS POINT? I SAID IT BEFORE ONCE ALREADY- YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME.

@gunz41 said:

You're starting to say things that don't make sense again Po. You have said Barkley would set the Browns up for next 5 years, now with Penny it's 10? It doesn't work like that. You don't add the 2 careers together

Taking Barkley in the first round gives us 5 years- 4 years with a team option 5th year. That will put us just after the 2022 NFL season. Saquon will then be 26 years old. If he is everything that everyone thinks he can be, myself included- I could easily seen us resigning him to another 5 year contract. 

Getting Penny would just help to disperse some of the mileage that runningbacks can endure. Late in games, resting for the playoffs, getting a breather or a blow here or there. Plus, you would have two really solid guys to return Kicks and Punts... well, 3 really- Peppers, Penny and Barkley. 

Imagine formation sets where you have Peppers joining these guys or whatever Haley can come up with. 

I'm just saying that Penny would help to lessen the load on Barkley... not saying that he'd need it, but it would help for Barkley to have a loooong and healthy career for the Browns. 

... It would take away some of his carries and hurt his totals a little, especially late in games if put him on ice for the next week- once the other team is demoralized and the Browns have pulled away, running the ball is going to become much easier for a guy like Saquon to really rack up the yardage. And, I'm sure I'll hear about how Penny is tearing up the stat column... but we'll all know why.  

@poeticg said:

Here is the Penny video breakdown for comparison. Love Penny and I'm supporting taking Penny with that last second rounder if he's still available. That would set up our running back position for the next 10 years. 

You're starting to say things that don't make sense again Po. You have said Barkley would set the Browns up for next 5 years, now with Penny it's 10? It doesn't work like that. You don't add the 2 careers together

The broadcasters say that Barkley would be DYNAMITE in the Browns Offense with Haley as OC and the weapons on the perimeter.