@tour2ma said:

All Colemans are not created equal...

Are you being discriminatory?

@orion said:

I'm just not getting good draft vibes from this kid.....;)

All Colemans are not created equal...

@tour2ma said:

Here's the metrics key: Position Rank - Name - Round - Ht. - Wt. - 40 time - 20 - 10 - Bench - Vert - Broad - 20 yd Shuttle - 3 Cone

QB:

• Kurt Benkert (UVA): Kurt was my first sighting this year. He's risen to a Late Day 2 Pick and has the 2nd best throwing mechanics in this draft.

• 10

  Kurt Benkert

  Virginia

  5-6

  6-3

  218

  4.95

  2.86

  1.71

  16

  31

  09'04"

  4.33

  7.15

• Kyle Allen (UofH): TBH I'd overlooked this kid until I heard Louis Riddick talk about him last week. Kid was a transfer to UH where he was benched... a lot... but when he played he was eye-popping. Issues? Probably, but for the price of a Rnd 7 or at most R6 Comp pick you'd get a QB3 prospect with a legit shot to become a starter.

• 20

  *Kyle Allen

  Houston

  FA

  6-3

  210

  4.71 - 2.67 - 1.71 / - / 28 1/2 / 09' 05" / 4.26 / -

RB:

• Justin Jackson (NW): He's a mid, Day-3, plug'n'play bargain. What is he doing this low?

• 17

  Justin Jackson

  Northwestern

  5-6

  6-0

  199

  4.50

  2.62

  1.57

  13

  38 1/2

  10'02"

  4.07

  6.81

WR:

• Dylan Cantrell (Texas Tech): Big and agile and projected to go in Day 3

• 25

  Dylan Cantrell

  Texas Tech

  5-6

  6-3

  226

  4.59

  2.64

  1.55

  18

  38 1/2

  10'10"

  4.03

  6.56

TE:

• Ian Thomas (IU): He's complete, just not elite, but I really like him. Since he's a Day 2 guy I should go deeper... but I don't see anyone deeper... sorry.

• 5

  Ian Thomas

  Indiana

  3

  6-4

  259

  4.65

  2.70

  1.56

  36

  10'03"

  4.20

  7.15

OT:

• Brian O'Neill (Pitt): Even tho he has risen to Day 2, I have to mention the most athletic OL in the draft. Kid has a chance to be great.

• 6

  *Brian ONeill

  Pittsburgh

  2-3

  6-7

  297

  4.80

  2.83

  1.70

  22

  29 1/2

  08'11"

  4.50

  7.14

• Joseph Noteboom (TCU):  He remains my Day 3 choice, but I've got a new, even deeper dive.

• 13

  Joseph Noteboom

  Texas Christian

  4-5

  6-5

  309

  4.96

  2.88

  1.71

  27

  24

  08'05"

  4.44

  7.65

• Korey Cunningham (U of Cincinnatti): He is the deep dive. Raw as hell, but has something to work with.

• 25

  Korey Cunningham

  Cincinnati

  7-FA

  6-5

  311

  4.90 - 2.74 - 1.75

  27

  35 1/2 - 09' 11"

  - / -

OG:

• They've really all awakened, but since I have to have at least one...
• Skyler Phillips (Idaho St.): He's not going to be effective pulling for you, but he can work in the "phone booth" and move DL.

• 8

  Skyler Phillips

  Idaho State

  4-5

  6-3

  318

  5.09

  2.97

  1.76

  no bench

  29

  08'08"

  4.69

  7.95

OC:

• Frank Ragnow (Arkansas) but now he's pushing close to R2, so...
• Coleman Shelton (Washington) is pressed into duty... needs to get stronger, but can move.

• 8

  Coleman Shelton

  Washington

  7-FA

  6-3

  292

  5.21

  3.00

  1.78

  no bench

  26 1/2

  09'02"

  4.59

  7.62

I like the Brian O'Neil choice, bring him in to compete with Coleman at LT, with either of them able to switch to RT if necessary.

If they don't bring in Joe Thomas to tutor the LTs in camp they're nuts, I think Joe would enjoy that opportunity, and could do it with his media interests intact. I imagine he is raising his kids in Cleveland, so ... he's there.

Zombo

@tour2ma said:

8

Coleman Shelton

Washington

I'm just not getting good draft vibes from this kid.....;)

@hoorta said:

How about Alex Cappa from Humboldt state day 3?  Liked what I saw at the Senior Bowl and tape. Sure he's a project.  

Not a fan, h. Kid is going to have problems in space on the edge that I don't see going away. Just too limited athletically for my taste.

@orion said:

measurables would be helpful.   just sayin'.

Done... and I've sent you an invoice.

@texasag1969 said:

As soon as Allen transferred he lost his HC to UT Austin and the team switched to a running offense...

His timing could not have been worse.

@unsympathetic said:

Ragnow is PFF's best OL.. higher than the ND guys.  Not exactly a sleeper and should be mid-round1..

PFF definitely marches to its own beat, but, yes, Ragnow has risen too high to be a true sleeper so I tabbed the U-Dub kid.

@unsympathetic said:

Ragnow is PFF's best OL.. higher than the ND guys.  Not exactly a sleeper and should be mid-round1..

Ragnarow should be a tough SOB:

@canton-mike said:

Very interesting & appreciated Tour.

Mike

Yes this looks like one loaded draft.

@tour2ma said:

QB:

• Kurt Benkert (UVA): Kurt was my first sighting this year. He's risen to a Late Day 2 Pick and has the 2nd best throwing mechanics in this draft.
• Kyle Allen (UofH): TBH I'd overlooked this kid until I heard Louis Riddick talk about him last week. Kid was a transfer to UH where he was benched... a lot... but when he played he was eye-popping. Issues? Probably, but for the price of a Rnd 7 or at most R6 Comp pick you'd get a QB3 prospect with a legit shot to become a starter.

RB:

• Justin Jackson (NW): He's a mid, Day-3, plug'n'play bargain. What is he doing this low?

WR:

• Dylan Cantrell (Texas Tech): Big and agile and projected to go in Day 3

TE:

• Ian Thomas (IU): He's complete, just not elite, but I really like him. Since he's a Day 2 guy I should go deeper... but I don't see anyone deeper... sorry.

OT:

• Brian O'Neill (Pitt): Even tho he has risen to Day 2, I have to mention the most athletic OL in the draft. Kid has a chance to be great.
• Joseph Noteboom (TCU):  He remains my Day 3 choice, but I've got a new, even deeper dive.
• Korey Cunningham (U of Cincinnatti): He is the deep dive. Raw as hell, but has something to work with.

OG:

• They've really all awakened, but since I have to have at least one...
• Skyler Phillips (Idaho St.): He's not going to be effective pulling for you, but he can work in the "phone booth" and move DL.

OC:

• Frank Ragnow (Arkansas) but now he's pushing close to R2, so...
• Coleman Shelton (Washington) is pressed into duty... needs to get stronger, but can move.

How about Alex Cappa from Humboldt state day 3?  Liked what I saw at the Senior Bowl and tape. Sure he's a project.  

Mike

If we opt for Mayfield I believe we should look at Kurt mid round.  I think he would win a head to head QB battle as a rookie over any of those guys not name Rosen. 

Impressive research and tape study Tour!