@boo-fagley said:

HAHA

Yup, its Bens fault that Tebow had a 125 QB rating. Talk about stupidity.

No, it was Ben's fault that he had a 75.9 passer rating.

Zombo

Zombo said:

Just replace the word Tomlin with the word Roethlisberger and realize how stupid you actually are.

Z

HAHA

Yup, its Bens fault that Tebow had a 125 QB rating. Talk about stupidity.

Zombo said:

What the Shmuck are you talking about?

Z

A few days ago you stated that you will kick my azz. Both Ghoolie and I.

Fine. Im ready for my azz beating.

@boo-fagley said:

Tomlin has played against and lost to Manning and Brady 1 time each.

Garrad -2008 Wildcard loss

Rogers- 2010 Suoerbowl loss

Tebow- 2012 WC loss

Flacco- 2014 WC loss

Manning- 2015 Division round loss

Brady - 2016 AFC Championship loss

Bortles - 2017 WC loss

All the other playoff losses are because Brady and Manning were in the AFC. How stupid is that theory of yours?

Just replace the word Tomlin with the word Roethlisberger and realize how stupid you actually are.

Z

@boo-fagley said:

Hey Zomboy

I build the houses POS like you peddle.

Since you earn so much money, put your butt on a plane and come to Kansas City to kick my a$$ like you promised.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Z

Zombo said:

Nothing you have said has given any validity to your proposition that Tomlin should be fired.

I just pointed out that Belichick never won with average QBs, but you want Tomlin to go out win with an average QB.

You said he won a SB with Cowher's team, but neither coach was a GM, the players were already there, Tomlin took an 8-8 team to the Super Bowl and #1 defense in two years.

Since then, all he does is win, they've made it back to the Super Bowl again, but largely they haven't made it over the top because they have been in a conference with Brady and Manning.

But they won 13 games last year and had another shot until Ben turned it over twice in the first half of a home playoff game and things steamrolled. Still almost won.

He's a good coach. You're an idiot.

Zombo

Tomlin has played against and lost to Manning and Brady 1 time each.

Garrad -2008 Wildcard loss

Rogers- 2010 Suoerbowl loss

Tebow- 2012 WC loss

Flacco- 2014 WC loss

Manning- 2015 Division round loss

Brady - 2016 AFC Championship loss

Bortles - 2017 WC loss

All the other playoff losses are because Brady and Manning were in the AFC. How stupid is that theory of yours?

Zombo said:

If I sell one house a month here in Naples I make more money than your entire trailer park is worth.

I don't have to ask anybody, I've been following the NFL forever. Tomlin is a terrific coach and you're an idiot. Of those two things I am sure of.

Zombo

Hey Zomboy

I build the houses POS like you peddle.

Since you earn so much money, put your butt on a plane and come to Kansas City to kick my a$$ like you promised.

@boo-fagley said:

And?

Rivers played 1 season for Marty. 14 - 2. Kieding missed a game winning FG vs the Patriots that would have sent the Chargers to the AFCC vs the Colts. I was there. Marty was fired.

Nothing you have said has given any validity to your proposition that Tomlin should be fired.

I just pointed out that Belichick never won with average QBs, but you want Tomlin to go out win with an average QB.

You said he won a SB with Cowher's team, but neither coach was a GM, the players were already there, Tomlin took an 8-8 team to the Super Bowl and #1 defense in two years.

Since then, all he does is win, they've made it back to the Super Bowl again, but largely they haven't made it over the top because they have been in a conference with Brady and Manning.

But they won 13 games last year and had another shot until Ben turned it over twice in the first half of a home playoff game and things steamrolled. Still almost won.

He's a good coach. You're an idiot.

Zombo

@boo-fagley said:

Is that all you want is to win some games? Winning seasons? Ask your Bengal neighbors to the south how satisfying losing every post season is.

Do you want to go out and sell 1 house a month? There is only 1 NFL winner every year and thats the Super Bowl champ. The other 31 guys failed.

If I sell one house a month here in Naples I make more money than your entire trailer park is worth.

I don't have to ask anybody, I've been following the NFL forever. Tomlin is a terrific coach and you're an idiot. Of those two things I am sure of.

Zombo

@boo-fagley said:

And?

Rivers played 1 season for Marty. 14 - 2. Kieding missed a game winning FG vs the Patriots that would have sent the Chargers to the AFCC vs the Colts. I was there. Marty was fired.

You are really getting off track.  The title of this thread is:  Mason Rudolph.   Hypothetically, lets say BR gets it so that he has to go into the fetal position for a good part of the season.

Who do you think would take over as the Squibbs starting QB:  Rudolph or Landry.  And how do you think the Steelers and Tomlin would do in that circumstance?

@vagitron said:

The majority of the time I don't troll. I have a good relationship here with more than a few behind the scenes. Gipper just likes trying to ruffle my feathers. He loves me in secret.

I have no secrets about you.  I think your screen name on here fits you perfectly.    And as far as you being a troll....I consider EVERY Non Browns fan that posts here to be a troll.   And I don't care what you think the definition of that term is.  But under any definition of that term that even you can come up with, you are still a troll.

Nevertheless....even though you ARE a pussy, and a troll...and a bit of a dumbass a lot of the time......I have no problem with you posting here.  You are welcome to continue to do so.  Beyond that, even if I didn't want you to, I have no power to stop you.  I am not a mod or anything...just another patron.

Zombo said:

How'd Belichick do with average QBs?

Kosar, Testeverde, Bledsoe ... those are actually above average QBs. If you include the year Matt Cassel started, I think that is one playoff season out of six without Brady.

Tomlin is already a good coach, Bud, whether you like it or not.

Z

BB has only ever made the playoffs ONE time where his QB is not Tom Brady. (1994 with Vinny)  It is why I say that I think that BB may be overrated.    That it is Brady, and not BB that is the straw that stirs the Patriots drink.

Zombo said:

Btw, Wilson and Rivers are pretty damn good.

Z

And?

Rivers played 1 season for Marty. 14 - 2. Kieding missed a game winning FG vs the Patriots that would have sent the Chargers to the AFCC vs the Colts. I was there. Marty was fired.

@tiamat63 said:

....so you answered your own question after contradicting yourself. 

Brilliant.  

The majority of the time I don't troll. I have a good relationship here with more than a few behind the scenes. Gipper just likes trying to ruffle my feathers. He loves me in secret.

@vagitron said:

I dont troll. Do you really think I troll? I might troll you but you ask for it.

....so you answered your own question after contradicting yourself. 

Brilliant.  

Z

@boo-fagley said:

Youre making my point for me.

Kosar, Bledsoe and Testaverde are not on the same level as Ben and Brady. The best in the league right now are Brees, Ben, Rodgers and Brady. 

And?

Z

Zombo said:

How'd Belichick do with average QBs?

Kosar, Testeverde, Bledsoe ... those are actually above average QBs. If you include the year Matt Cassel started, I think that is one playoff season out of six without Brady.

Tomlin is already a good coach, Bud, whether you like it or not.

Z

Youre making my point for me.

Kosar, Bledsoe and Testaverde are not on the same level as Ben and Brady. The best in the league right now are Brees, Ben, Rodgers and Brady. 

@boo-fagley said:

Marty could coach. He won with the Browns, Chiefs and Chargers. With Grbac, Bono, Deberg, Creig, Gannon, Kosar. No HOF QBs in that group.

Montana was old and not the same player.. Marty had Brees 4 seasons. Tomlin has had Ben 11 seasons going on 12 seasons. 75% more than what Marty had with Brees.

I dont hate Tomlin, but he is way overrated. When Tomlin can start over with a new team and win with an average QB , then he will be good coach.

How'd Belichick do with average QBs?

Kosar, Testeverde, Bledsoe ... those are actually above average QBs. If you include the year Matt Cassel started, I think that is one playoff season out of six without Brady.

Tomlin is already a good coach, Bud, whether you like it or not.

Z

Zombo said:

If you hate Tomlin, you musta really hated Marty ... All that winning and no rings.

Zombo

---He had Montana, Rivers and Brees, no?

Is that all you want is to win some games? Winning seasons? Ask your Bengal neighbors to the south how satisfying losing every post season is.

Do you want to go out and sell 1 house a month? There is only 1 NFL winner every year and thats the Super Bowl champ. The other 31 guys failed.

Zombo said:

If you hate Tomlin, you musta really hated Marty ... All that winning and no rings.

Zombo

---He had Montana, Rivers and Brees, no?

Marty could coach. He won with the Browns, Chiefs and Chargers. With Grbac, Bono, Deberg, Creig, Gannon, Kosar. No HOF QBs in that group.

Montana was old and not the same player.. Marty had Brees 4 seasons. Tomlin has had Ben 11 seasons going on 12 seasons. 75% more than what Marty had with Brees.

I dont hate Tomlin, but he is way overrated. When Tomlin can start over with a new team and win with an average QB , then he will be good coach.

@boo-fagley said:

I have followed the Browns from afar since Marty. 

If you hate Tomlin, you musta really hated Marty ... All that winning and no rings.

Zombo

---He had Montana, Rivers and Brees, no?

@the-gipper said:

Well....the one thing worse than a troll I guess is a FRAK.

But, I guess I can't really put you in that category.....because certainly you are not a Frontrunner, if you like the Browns.

I have followed the Browns from afar since Marty.