Lucky again..

@syd said:

hey maybe times are a changing for us seems we dodged a bullet on that guy he needs shoulder surgery and is gone for the year

DOH!

@canton-mike said:

You flushed it Bill. Just take another crap & stick a needle in it!  ?

Mike 

Elusive little devils.?

@texasag1969 said:

Where did I put that Steelers voodoo doll anyway??

You flushed it Bill. Just take another crap & stick a needle in it!  ?

Mike 

@the-gipper said:

Next year then, right? 

Where did I put that Steelers voodoo doll anyway??

@hoorta said:

Come on Gip, NFL teams do tank- they're just less obvious about it. 

Can you agree the Sashi Browns set the bar on tanking? 

Sounds like the 1960s Indians they tanked every year. 

@the-gipper said:

Should the NFL go to a system like this for the regular draft so as to avoid "tanking"?

Come on Gip, NFL teams do tank- they're just less obvious about it. 

Can you agree the Sashi Browns set the bar on tanking? 

EDIT: How fast we forget the Colts "Suck for Luck".

@jrb12711 said:

Nah. The reason tanking in the NBA is so effective is that parity is almost non-existent. We know going into the season what teams are gonna be good and bad, so from the jump teams are already in tank mode. The NFL has way more parody, and way less games, for that type of system. The NBA does that in part so a team like the Cavs (let's be real) don't totally tank from day one, although it doesn't work well.

Did you mean parity.....or were you making a parody of the NFL's parity? 

@the-gipper said:

Should the NFL go to a system like this for the regular draft so as to avoid "tanking"?

Nah. The reason tanking in the NBA is so effective is that parity is almost non-existent. We know going into the season what teams are gonna be good and bad, so from the jump teams are already in tank mode. The NFL has way more parody, and way less games, for that type of system. The NBA does that in part so a team like the Cavs (let's be real) don't totally tank from day one, although it doesn't work well.

@texasag1969 said:

Yes as soon as the Browns move out of the cellar. ?

The league is catching up with us! J.Gordon is now freed from rogers hit list.Now all the refs can do is throw a flag for tackling him running open down the field. Maybe Roger can call it the Flash Gordon rule ? 

@texasag1969 said:

Yes as soon as the Browns move out of the cellar. ?

Next year then, right? 

@the-gipper said:

Should the NFL go to a system like this for the regular draft so as to avoid "tanking"?

Yes as soon as the Browns move out of the cellar. ?

@jrb12711 said:

Sure, I mean what you're describing is essentially how the NBA draft lottery goes about it. Who knows why they don't do it that way, I've looked for a reason and haven't found much. 

Should the NFL go to a system like this for the regular draft so as to avoid "tanking"?

@orion said:

I guess you weren't let in on the secret......

I wasn't.  News to me.

@gumby73 said:

A) I get the grouping, as a attempt to keep league competitive. B.)how bout each team in group gets 1 paper in hat per loss?

Sure, I mean what you're describing is essentially how the NBA draft lottery goes about it. Who knows why they don't do it that way, I've looked for a reason and haven't found much. 

@jrb12711 said:

I mean, in this system that would never happen. It took me a good bit to wrap my head around it but essentially boils down to three groups

1) non-playoff teams, 6 wins or less

2) non-playoff teams, 7 wins or more

3) playoff teams

Each one of these three groups is then "put in a hat" and given a draft position based on the random selection of that group. For example, the Browns group had 11 teams that met the criteria. The Raiders as I understand with a 6-10 record actually "won" the lottery and got first pick each round.

A) I get the grouping, as a attempt to keep league competitive. B.)how bout each team in group gets 1 paper in hat per loss?

@texasag1969 said:

4.61 40 as a CB? Underweight for his height? 

Dodged a wasted pick since it meant 2nd round to get him.

Rather hang onto that

Me too. Wonder when the media will get to how many teams bid a 3rd? that's his worth imo. Started as a WR, with not much experience at CB position.Watched Beal against Darnold, and the normal showed up.Beals can press cover,but when he loses, A) his team gives up a bunch of points B.) Beals stats are not great but his 1 on 1 coverage numbers are. Tough to guess on his next step up level..If BB Calhoun sticks as 4th/5th CB? we missed on nothing here imo..     

Dodged a wasted pick since it meant 2nd round to get him.

Rather hang onto that.

@orion said:

...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st.  - Ya know what would be better?  Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick.  There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft.  They could sell tickets...and beer...

I mean, in this system that would never happen. It took me a good bit to wrap my head around it but essentially boils down to three groups

1) non-playoff teams, 6 wins or less

2) non-playoff teams, 7 wins or more

3) playoff teams

Each one of these three groups is then "put in a hat" and given a draft position based on the random selection of that group. For example, the Browns group had 11 teams that met the criteria. The Raiders as I understand with a 6-10 record actually "won" the lottery and got first pick each round. It is NOT like the NBA draft where the Browns  would have had the most names in hat, each team had one equally.  We got drawn 4th based on that system, and the the Giants were given 2nd and therefore got the guy. Hypothetically, we could have been 11th in this system very easily.

Now if you wanna argue that it was rigged somehow (a la NBA draft), well who knows. There are some pretty credible rumors we had the 3rd round grade on him so we just missed out,

@ballpeen said:

The picks are the same as was the regular draft.  There is no secret here.

I guess you weren't let in on the secret......

@gumby73 said:

Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery..

...and, of course, it makes PERFECT sense that the team that couldn't win ANY football games the previous season doesn't get to pick 1st.  - Ya know what would be better?  Is if they gave the superbowl winner the 1st pick.  There'd be all kinds of players trying to position themselves for the draft.  They could sell tickets...and beer...

@gumby73 said:

Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver...  https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick   

Yeah, after reading the article, saw how the Giants jumped us in the supplemental draft. Didn't know they reshuffled the order. Going on record, the Browns should have had the first pick in each round. 

@orion said:

Well, obviously we didn't even pony up our 3rd rounder.

Giants did, and because they drafted one selection before us in the 3rd round.... the ONLY way we would have snagged him is with a second-round pick, which he wasn't worth.

@orion said:

Someone explain to me, a scenario, where a team that got zero friggin' wins last year wouldn't get first dibs..........

Somehow in Good-hell's weird football rule book? Browns picked 4th in supplemental draft due to lottery.. No news on if we even threw the same 3rd rounder that Giants would have won due to supp. draft order becoming...Oak.-Jets-NYG-Browns-Denver...  https://www.ohio.com/akron/sports/browns/an-eventful-supplemental-draft-ends-without-browns-making-pick