@the-cysko-kid said:

Move on. The dawg defense was in the 80s and that's where it should remain. 

Agree

@dutch-oven said:

What's everyone's thoughts on the Dawg Pound and dawg-related logos for the Browns?

Ingrained now into Browns lore or something that is dated and needs to be moved on from? 

Move on. The dawg defense was in the 80s and that's where it should remain. 

@mjp28 said:

Right. Logos are basically cartoon like or symbols or whatever the designer has in mind.

Afterall what kind of a sports team is truly represented by a cardinal, blue jay, Metropolitan, blue jacket or even penguin as long as the fans like it.....well most of them anyway.

GO PENGUINS, now that's a scary sight!

I'm very scared... but they don't seem to mind ice that much...

PS- still waiting to know what else a Charger is?  First thing that comes to my mind...  

@the-gipper said:

If these are not cartoons...what are they? 

And if you think that either of these Pats logos instill fear or respect than the Brownie....you are one gullible human being.

Besides, I don't think that these logos are meant to do either.  There is NO logo that would ever instill fear in another team's players....nor any respect. They get that from the way they play on the field.   These logos are nothing more than marketing tools....to sell parphenalia and crap, and that is all.  If you don't know that, then you are a tool.

Right. Logos are basically cartoon like or symbols or whatever the designer has in mind.

Afterall what kind of a sports team is truly represented by a cardinal, blue jay, Metropolitan, blue jacket or even penguin as long as the fans like it.....well most of them anyway.

GO PENGUINS, now that's a scary sight!

@stinkhole said:

Look up the definition of cartoon.

That's not a cartoon logo.  The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

Your elf would do neither.

But hey why not.  The other Cleveland teams logo, Chief Wahoo, does neither as well.

If these are not cartoons...what are they? 

And if you think that either of these Pats logos instill fear or respect than the Brownie....you are one gullible human being.

Besides, I don't think that these logos are meant to do either.  There is NO logo that would ever instill fear in another team's players....nor any respect. They get that from the way they play on the field.   These logos are nothing more than marketing tools....to sell parphenalia and crap, and that is all.  If you don't know that, then you are a tool.

@stinkhole said:

Look up the definition of cartoon.

That's not a cartoon logo.  The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

Your elf would do neither.

But hey why not.  The other Cleveland teams logo, Chief Wahoo, does neither as well.

Speaking of pansy logos, how about that badass penguin on skates? 

Now THAT makes a grown man tremble with fear and respect. ?

@stinkhole said:

The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

What?  The flying Elvis?

@the-gipper said:

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.

Look up the definition of cartoon.

That's not a cartoon logo.  The Pats logo isn't meant to instill fear, but rather designed to command respect.

Your elf would do neither.

But hey why not.  The other Cleveland teams logo, Chief Wahoo, does neither as well.

Zombo said:

So the "angry Elf" is back! Sweet....

As for the "Dawg Pound"... that was a Muni Bleachers thing. It never really translated well to "Browns' Stadium"... but then neither did the team.

It's up to the team to breath life back into the Pound.

@flugel said:

Believe it or not, I feel the same way.    Knowing that started with 2 Corners that could cover WRs at a Pro Bowl level in spite of an inconsistent pass rush - it didn't feel suitable at all with the secondary that contested nobody during 1-31 football.

They need to earn an identity, which has prolly already been said more than once....

I came up with the name called the goons but that didn’t really go overI came up with the name called the goons but that didn’t really go over

@ghoolie said:

Hate the Dawg shid. Has nothing to do with the Browns.

Believe it or not, I feel the same way.    Knowing that started with 2 Corners that could cover WRs at a Pro Bowl level in spite of an inconsistent pass rush - it didn't feel suitable at all with the secondary that contested nobody during 1-31 football.

They need to earn an identity, which has prolly already been said more than once....

@ghoolie said:

Hate the Dawg shid. Has nothing to do with the Browns.

but it did the fans 

bring back the batteries rocks &  bottles too

@dutch-oven said:

Yes sir. 

The old Boston Patriots, I was surprised when they changed to the New England Metro Patriots. 

A kid in my neighborhood was an early AFL fan we loyal BROWNIES thought he was nuts......he turned out to be ahead of all of us. A pirates fan too, I got to see the great Roberto Clemente because of him.

@dutch-oven said:

I'll admit I'm a sports uniform nerd, but it always bothered me that the "Patriots" wore red jerseys. 

The American "Patriots" fought the English redcoats. Why they chose red for their jerseys instead of navy blue is beyond me. 

Well they do now I guess

The American "Patriots" fought the English redcoats. Why they chose red for their jerseys instead of navy blue is beyond me. 

@canton-mike said:

Did they have that logo when Babe Parilli played QB for them in the '60s?

Mike

Yes sir. 

@dutch-oven said:

The old-school Pat the Patriot logo was awesome. 

Did they have that logo when Babe Parilli played QB for them in the '60s?

Mike

@the-gipper said:

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.

The old-school Pat the Patriot logo was awesome. 

@the-gipper said:

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.

Yeah, besides the previously mentioned non-scary Cardinal, we have-  a Raven (garbage bird), Packers (do they even have a mascot? Meat packer guy. Texans ? I guess there were a lot of cows in Texas at one time.  Chargers? Whats a charger? Something you plug into a wall to juice up your cellphone?  Saints? - totally non-scary. And lastly the Jets. Just don't be on the runway when one takes off or lands....   

@lbc-mike said:

It's the other teams and fans look at it as a cartoon elf.  

And the Patriots have a cartoon guy for a logo, the Minuteman.   The logo...and how scary it is don't matter.  It is how the team performs that matters.