@the-gipper said:

I still think that this could weaken two positions 

Are we under estimating Joel's ability & expectations at LT? But as most, like myself, till viewing Corbetts tape. were all under estimating Austin Corbett's ability.Sure it's a 2 piece move.Let's start with Joel..He's replacing S. Coleman not JT..Nobody replaces JT, but Joel's by far is are best can a date to date to replace JT not S.Coleman per coaches. No NFL team has Joel gametape at LT..Advanage Joel, in my book. Can Joel finish in the top 15-20 in LT's? That's not out of line. Can we get to 10 good LT's in this league? Sure maybe 10, but if Joel ranks between the 11th to 15th of LT's. I'd call that a winning decision at the position for now.On to Corbett. Dorsey has got to be right with the weight of his move of #33 pick Austin Corbett over Will Hernandez. That's the big weight in this move, sliding Joel over. Than the weight moves to the coaches that put him ahead of Durango and others. Here's a guy I like to listen to that adds some life to the Senior bowl workouts. Named Voch Lombardi. You can start at 13:11 to watch the guy the Saints traded a bunch on that Corbett wrecks..Than at Center at 16:26 against P.Ford from Texas..Most will want to get more just listening to this guys jive breakdowns, but just take a look at this #73 in white with the dark blue helmet thru out this tape..

@clevfan4life said:

i dont know if u all rem or not, but drango's first game as a LT after JT went down.....was against none other than the leagues best pass rusher last year everson griffen. And drango only gave up one sack which if i rem right was a late garbage kizer holding the ball for 10 minutes looking to throw the ball in absolutely the wrong window....kind of sack

point is drango came in and played LT almost at JT's level for most of the rest of the season. Why was he not considered for LT when he came in his first game and stuffed the leagues best?

Cause Weebles Wobble than Durango would fall down..He's a guard, that can Weeble straight forward, but can't Wobble sideways on a open island. Griffen played bull rush on him that with a guard you don't play.Durango gave up 10 sacks last season. When drafted, I tried to find a legit DE that played Durango at Baylor, with not much luck..The tape monsters figured out Durango at LT & he can't kick sideways with any balance..  

point is drango came in and played LT almost at JT's level for most of the rest of the season. Why was he not considered for LT when he came in his first game and stuffed the leagues best?

Zombo said:

What did you do with our best lineman, Zeitler?

Coleman will not be in lineup when all are healthy.

Z

Almost forgot about Zeitler

@domcucch1994 said:

Everyone chill I think Bitonio will be a good fit.

Corbett at LG, Tretter, Hubbard, Coleman. 

Not a bad O-line.. I certainty miss JT.. I hope he becomes our next OL/OC in a few years

What did you do with our best lineman, Zeitler?

Coleman will not be in lineup when all are healthy.

Z

@domcucch1994 said:

Everyone chill I think Bitonio will be a good fit.

Corbett at LG, Tretter, Hubbard, Coleman. 

Not a bad O-line.. I certainty miss JT.. I hope he becomes our next OL/OC in a few years

I really like the idea of Corbett right next to the guy who can also teach him that position during practice and play because they line up together.

Corbett at LG, Tretter, Hubbard, Coleman. 

Not a bad O-line.. I certainty miss JT.. I hope he becomes our next OL/OC in a few years

Zeitler out a couple weeks with a calf injury. Drango filled in today, so l guess that answers the question on where Drango is in the pecking order. Sounds like the Oline suffered today with reshuffling and Tretter with the vet day off.

@dutch-oven said:

In a few years the pick of Corbett might make sense, but right now it looks a bit odd to me. 

They must have really liked him over the next best player / OLineman and figured the Giants would take him (which they DID take a Guard with their pick).  And there was no chance that NY would draft Chubb...

Again, they must have REALLY liked him above everyone else.  (BPA)

@ibleedbrown said:

I’m kinda surprised they already view Corbett as a better option at guard than someone like Drango or Reiter who have experience in the league. Drango got a fair amount of game experience the last 2 years. He may not have made the best fill in tackle, but he was projected to be a guard anyway, so l’m curious what the coaches saw in Corbett in a week of practice to view him as a better option.

Probably means they think Corbett will be stronger in the rushing schemes they're going with. 

I'm not going to flip out about the O line (yet). I do think they were a fine pass-blocking line last year, and horrible in the running game. 

@mr.-make-believe said:

Odd..? Or horses**t?

At 33 no less. Not good.

Well we drafted Bitonio in the second round.  Almost feels like a "luxury" pick, because we were set at guard with Bito and Zeitler. Injury insurance? 

@dutch-oven said:

In a few years the pick of Corbett might make sense, but right now it looks a bit odd to me. 

Odd..? Or horses**t?

At 33 no less. Not good.

@hoorta said:

Can't add much to what Gumby already posted. Bito had better not get hurt or we're screwed beyond belief. If JT says Corbett isn't LT material, I'll defer to his opinion. Yeah- if you wanted a pure guard, why not Hernandez? 

One year stopgap in the master plan- draft Joe's replacement next year in a deep LT class?  

In a few years the pick of Corbett might make sense, but right now it looks a bit odd to me. 

@orion said:

lol  - Wylie the Walrus had the move as Plan Z.  

I do agree with the desperation sentiment.  But ya know what?  THIS is the time to try this crazy stuff.  Apparently he's seeing Coleman out there like a swinging gate.  A guy he'd like to try there is sidelined so he's gonna see what Bitonio & Corbett look like manning the left side.  The equation is, is the drop-off in play at Guard worth the amount of improvement Bitonio brings to LT over Coleman?   -  I'd be worried about Bitonio's speed to secure the edge.  But if he can DO it that'd be great because he could improve the run blocking at LT.

Can't add much to what Gumby already posted. Bito had better not get hurt or we're screwed beyond belief. If JT says Corbett isn't LT material, I'll defer to his opinion. Yeah- if you wanted a pure guard, why not Hernandez? 

One year stopgap in the master plan- draft Joe's replacement next year in a deep LT class?  

@orion said:

  A)I do agree with the desperation sentiment.HueJax better be the most desperate piece on the field   B.) THIS is the time to try this crazy stuff.  Apparently he's seeing Coleman out there like a swinging gate.Hues watched the gate swing open 2 full seasons. Hue has convindence now in his gm to find better.or put a fire under Colemans tukus.  C) A guy he'd like to try there is sidelined so he's gonna see what Bitonio & Corbett look like manning the left side. Myself, i would have liked to have seen what Will Hernandez could have brought, if sliding Joel was in the works.  D.) The equation is, is the drop-off in play at Guard worth the amount of improvement Bitonio brings to LT over Coleman? I've been done with the idea of Coleman at LT from the start. No teams move failed RT's to LT,but we are capable of trying with Walrus. but I agree with the equation. and Teams don't drop LT's, they move them to RT//G..Zero LT's were to be found last season on the street. Desmond Harrison is underweight & raw as hell,projects to PS than RT. Leaving us Greg Robinson, who will get a damn good look to move Joel back to Guard.another equation  - E) I'd be worried about Bitonio's speed to secure the edge. Joel is too & or a new injury risk..  F) But if he can DO it that'd be great because he could improve the run blocking at LT. This whole group including Shon Coleman,Robinson to Durango can power run block the hell out the ball.No Zone blocking schemes. Hue stopped them.Crow stopped himself.the problem is now only Tretter,Joel & Zeitler can pass protect..Greg Robinson maybe worse in pass pro than Joel, that's never played the LT spot? But that's why we play the game. 

^^later peeps..we'll keep grinding to some wins 

Chubb will be on the field doing a lot of blocking and no running

@gumby73 said:

Hue even tossed his own OL coach Bob Wylie under the bus on Wylie's A- Z plan to move Joel to Tackle..Hue, "you media people, ask my assistant coaches far to many questions"

lol  - Wylie the Walrus had the move as Plan Z.  

I do agree with the desperation sentiment.  But ya know what?  THIS is the time to try this crazy stuff.  Apparently he's seeing Coleman out there like a swinging gate.  A guy he'd like to try there is sidelined so he's gonna see what Bitonio & Corbett look like manning the left side.  The equation is, is the drop-off in play at Guard worth the amount of improvement Bitonio brings to LT over Coleman?   -  I'd be worried about Bitonio's speed to secure the edge.  But if he can DO it that'd be great because he could improve the run blocking at LT.

@dutch-oven said:

I tend to think this is out of desperation. 

 it's not* desperation..A) Hue maybe actually becoming a actual Head coach today. Sticking to his commitment to his team/coaches including Haley. "of playing the best 5 OL players"..B) Bitonio only wants what's best for the players/coaches including Hue on his team. C)Hue even tossed his own OL coach Bob Wylie under the bus on Wylie's A- Z plan to move Joel to Tackle..Hue, "you media people, ask my assistant coaches far to many questions"..

  Good on Hue Jackson today..he left every door still cracked open to compete..