@gumby73 said:

police report shows nothing about a gun https://www.scribd.com/document/385760107/Antonio-Calloway-Incident-rookie-wide-receiver-for-the-Cleveland-Browns     weed crumbs under seat & was his license valid?  

@gumby73 said:

https://www.tmz.com/2018/08/08/antonio-callaway-police-video-cleveland-browns-bullets-marijuana-gun/  police cam

Double bump^^ for us arm-chair attorneys..(1 hour police stop)

@hoorta said:

That's a pretty creative use of "failure to yield" when there's no oncoming traffic.

But THAT was the cop's invite.  He was looking for drunk drivers because it was 3 in the morning.   At that hour you are a target for cops.

@hoorta said:

So, the latest from MKC- Callaway may fight the weed possession charge- sounds like it was just a roach, and if the cop tossed it, you have no evidence.  And the suspended license was a non-issue, it's since been cleared up.  Obviously tested clean too.  

Court date moved to another game night.. TNF Week 3 Jets..  https://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/08/antonio_callaways_lawyer_conte.html#incart_big-photo   Roger sent his post.. !!

@jcam222 said:

Basic point is “young fuk ups can change into high functioning non fuk ups”. I did. Others have. Callaway might.  Not everyone is perfect through all stages of life. 

no you and choco were comparing your problems with his I seriously doubt that your boss was on your a$$ about parting and what ever else you were up to( callaway was talked to over and over again about not being a knucklehead) there are not that many jobs in the nfl and players are scrutinized like no other unlike the rest of us in the real world 

@the-gipper said:

Without seeing a report I could not say what the cop would have articulated as being the basis of his probable cause.

That was supposedly the initial reason we heard about why he got stopped.  Correct? Not sure.  BTW- for us out of town guys- you can now stream WKNR- happy, happy joy, joy. Can get all the pre and post game chatter here in Dayton.   http://www.espn.com/espnradio/affPopup?s=wknr-am

So, the latest from MKC- Callaway may fight the weed possession charge- sounds like it was just a roach, and if the cop tossed it, you have no evidence.  And the suspended license was a non-issue, it's since been cleared up.  Obviously tested clean too.  

@hoorta said:

True Gip- but their favorite is "weaving". Impossible to prove you weren't. 

My bet is Callaway pulled out of the gas station without stopping first, and was driving a nice car. 

EDIT: & I'll use my amateur lawyering here. That's a pretty creative use of "failure to yield" when there's no oncoming traffic. Might argue the cop didn't have probable cause to make a stop. What's your ruling Magistrate?     

Without seeing a report I could not say what the cop would have articulated as being the basis of his probable cause.

@jcam222 said:

Basic point is “young fuk ups can change into high functioning non fuk ups”. I did. Others have. Callaway might.  Not everyone is perfect through all stages of life. 

And best of luck to him.  But the Browns didn't draft him to be a drug/life rehabilitation center.  The drafted him and pay him big bucks to play football and follow the rules.

@jcam222 said:

Basic point is “young fuk ups can change into high functioning non fuk ups”. I did. Others have.

Jury's still out on that...

@hoorta said:

True Gip- but their favorite is "weaving". Impossible to prove you weren't. 

My bet is Callaway pulled out of the gas station without stopping first, and was driving a nice car. 

At 3 am. F'n idiot.

@the-gipper said:

There must be probably cause for a traffic stop  (just "trolling for drunk drivers" is not enough).  On the other hand, just about anything can give the cop probable cause.  e.g.  you touched the white line etc.  The most innocuous things. 

True Gip- but their favorite is "weaving". Impossible to prove you weren't. 

My bet is Callaway pulled out of the gas station without stopping first, and was driving a nice car. 

EDIT: & I'll use my amateur lawyering here. That's a pretty creative use of "failure to yield" when there's no oncoming traffic. Might argue the cop didn't have probable cause to make a stop. What's your ruling Magistrate?     

@jiggins7919 said:

I believe the cop even admitted they were looking for drunk drivers. That's all it was, just a cop taking a flyer on somebody driving around at 3am. Is it fair? Not really. But as you said...it happens. 

There must be probably cause for a traffic stop  (just "trolling for drunk drivers" is not enough).  On the other hand, just about anything can give the cop probable cause.  e.g.  you touched the white line etc.  The most innocuous things. 

@hoorta said:

One thing to add- Callaway said there was no traffic on the road, and I tend to believe him. It was a BS stop by a bored cop on a slow night. If you don't think that happens all the time, you're wrong.

I believe the cop even admitted they were looking for drunk drivers. That's all it was, just a cop taking a flyer on somebody driving around at 3am. Is it fair? Not really. But as you said...it happens. 

@orion said:

It's a maturing process.   Typically doesn't happen overnight.  He might toe the line for a while...but let him have some time go by, or a little success....and his immaturity (young, wilder side) might make appearances.  He's a risk...like Josh is a risk. 

But sometimes I feel like the Browns go out of their way to make turning this team around even more difficult than it already is. Like they are trying to score style points or something. 

@jcam222 said:

Basic point is “young fuk ups can change into high functioning non fuk ups”. I did. Others have. Callaway might.

It's a maturing process.   Typically doesn't happen overnight.  He might toe the line for a while...but let him have some time go by, or a little success....and his immaturity (young, wilder side) might make appearances.  He's a risk...like Josh is a risk. 

@syd said:

FUK a Amen if you don't think that it was not drilled in his head not to fuk up or it could cost you everything (cause you know he did not go to collage to get a education) then you are mistaken,go flip some burgers calloway cause there is allways someone who will be more than glad to take your roster spot

Basic point is “young fuk ups can change into high functioning non fuk ups”. I did. Others have. Callaway might.  Not everyone is perfect through all stages of life. 

@jcam222 said:

Amen

FUK a Amen if you don't think that it was not drilled in his head not to fuk up or it could cost you everything (cause you know he did not go to collage to get a education) then you are mistaken,go flip some burgers calloway cause there is allways someone who will be more than glad to take your roster spot

@choco said:

as was i jig...from the time i was 14 till about 25, only thing i was concerned with was sex, drugs, and rock and roll.  sad part looking back on it, after graduating top 15% in engineering (as an alcoholic), had i actually applied myself rather than chase skirts and drink till 4am everyday (monday was our day off...sometimes), i could have risen much higher than i am now (although, quite comfortable where i am now).  at the time, i didn't care about my future, where i wanted to be in 10, 20, 30 years...didn't consider consequences of my actions, just wanted to have as much fun as i could before i died.  

its why i cant get all butthurt about kids making mistakes. we love our team, we love our sports...but seeing some many people immediately jump Callaway for next to nothing is kinda irritating considering he is a kid learning his way through a life we all have absolutely no concept of.  easy to say what you would do if you had millions as the fully mature adults we are (most of us anyway), but give a good thinkin about a million dollars when you were 21.  

i would quite literally have died in a high speed car crash, or OD'd.

fuk that the reason he got jumped on was He Fuking failed his piss test at the combine,still was drafted and then proceeds to get pulled over with weed in his car driving around at 3a.m Dude is a idiot

@choco said:

as was i jig...from the time i was 14 till about 25, only thing i was concerned with was sex, drugs, and rock and roll.  sad part looking back on it, after graduating top 15% in engineering (as an alcoholic), had i actually applied myself rather than chase skirts and drink till 4am everyday (monday was our day off...sometimes), i could have risen much higher than i am now (although, quite comfortable where i am now).  at the time, i didn't care about my future, where i wanted to be in 10, 20, 30 years...didn't consider consequences of my actions, just wanted to have as much fun as i could before i died.  

its why i cant get all butthurt about kids making mistakes. we love our team, we love our sports...but seeing some many people immediately jump Callaway for next to nothing is kinda irritating considering he is a kid learning his way through a life we all have absolutely no concept of.  easy to say what you would do if you had millions as the fully mature adults we are (most of us anyway), but give a good thinkin about a million dollars when you were 21.  

i would quite literally have died in a high speed car crash, or OD'd.

Amen

@the-gipper said:

To about 25? Why what makes you think that those of us past 60 still don’t just think about those thingsI need to about 25? Why what makes you think that those of us past 60 still don’t just think about those things

lol...not that i dont still like those things, but i also learned that i love food, heat and air conditioning, warm bed....

@hoorta said:

One thing to add- Callaway said there was no traffic on the road, and I tend to believe him. It was a BS stop by a bored cop on a slow night. If you don't think that happens all the time, you're wrong.

It happens if you are black or brown more often than not at that time of night. It would be interesting to pull an experiment with similar high $ cars using different shades of people in various towns at those after mid-night hours.

@choco said:

as was i jig...from the time i was 14 till about 25, only thing i was concerned with was sex, drugs, and rock and roll.  sad part looking back on it, after graduating top 15% in engineering (as an alcoholic), had i actually applied myself rather than chase skirts and drink till 4am everyday (monday was our day off...sometimes), i could have risen much higher than i am now (although, quite comfortable where i am now).  at the time, i didn't care about my future, where i wanted to be in 10, 20, 30 years...didn't consider consequences of my actions, just wanted to have as much fun as i could before i died.  

its why i cant get all butthurt about kids making mistakes. we love our team, we love our sports...but seeing some many people immediately jump Callaway for next to nothing is kinda irritating considering he is a kid learning his way through a life we all have absolutely no concept of.  easy to say what you would do if you had millions as the fully mature adults we are (most of us anyway), but give a good thinkin about a million dollars when you were 21.  

i would quite literally have died in a high speed car crash, or OD'd.

To about 25? Why what makes you think that those of us past 60 still don’t just think about those thingsI need to about 25? Why what makes you think that those of us past 60 still don’t just think about those things

@jiggins7919 said:

I was a complete disaster. 

as was i jig...from the time i was 14 till about 25, only thing i was concerned with was sex, drugs, and rock and roll.  sad part looking back on it, after graduating top 15% in engineering (as an alcoholic), had i actually applied myself rather than chase skirts and drink till 4am everyday (monday was our day off...sometimes), i could have risen much higher than i am now (although, quite comfortable where i am now).  at the time, i didn't care about my future, where i wanted to be in 10, 20, 30 years...didn't consider consequences of my actions, just wanted to have as much fun as i could before i died.  

its why i cant get all butthurt about kids making mistakes. we love our team, we love our sports...but seeing some many people immediately jump Callaway for next to nothing is kinda irritating considering he is a kid learning his way through a life we all have absolutely no concept of.  easy to say what you would do if you had millions as the fully mature adults we are (most of us anyway), but give a good thinkin about a million dollars when you were 21.  

i would quite literally have died in a high speed car crash, or OD'd.