<![CDATA[Tyrod Taylor and the Deep Ball]]> Tyrod Taylor and the Deep Ball

By Michael Hoag@BrownsBeat  

Tyrod Taylor gets the knock of being too safe with the ball and not taking enough chances.  In fact, I’m on record as saying this is the only way, other than injury, Baker gets on the field (because our coaches aren’t satisfied with potential missed big plays after watching film).  However, the article below somewhat dispels that line of thinking, and perhaps Tyrod’s perceived lack of “risky” or deep throwing is more a result of his lack of weapons or his coach’s game plan.  That being said, Tyrod got benched for a game last year in what turned out to be one of the biggest coaching disasters in recent memory.  I believe his replacement threw something like five interceptions.  That’s….not good. 

The article also addresses our propensity of throwing deep TOO often last year, and possibly not putting our rookie QB in the best situations.  Everyone knows you can’t play sandlot football and chuck it deep ALL the time, but having the weapons we finally have, we’ll definitely need to take calculated risks to keep the defenses honest.  Of course the most vital aspect of taking these chances is actually HITTING on them, and time will tell on that.  I’m sure many of us remember last year when we had some nifty plays set up, only to have it ruined by a bad throw.  Again, no QB makes EVERY pass, but Kizer had way more than his fair share of missed TD opportunities, especially in the red zone.  Making matters worse, Kizer not only missed the TD, he often turned it over.  It’s one thing to miss out on 7 points and settle for 3, but getting NONE and losing all of that momentum…it’s absolutely crushing. 

Here's the article about Tyrod Taylor and throwing it deep:

There’s a slightly common misconception that quarterback Tyrod Taylor is a “safe” player who makes smart decisions and doesn’t take many risks down the field.

While that may have been somewhat true in the past, Taylor’s “avoidance” of throwing the ball downfield is “overstated,” according to Football Outsiders’ Aaron Schatz.

“Last year, Taylor threw 16 percent of passes over 15 yards downfield,” Schatz wrote in response to the Dawgs By Nature Staff’s questionnaire sent to Football Outsiders. “That ranked 24th among 35 quarterbacks with at least 200 attempts. Below average, but not last.

“You know who was last? Aaron Rodgers.”

Tell me that’s not at least a little bit surprising. When you think of Rodgers, you marvel in your mind about his big arm and ability to make the big plays down the field.

And there is another common misconception that throwing the football down the field is the only way to successfully execute a passing game. But that’s not entirely true, and it’s not an automatic precursor for success.

Schatz highlighted a player we’re all familiar with who finished third in the NFL on such “deep” attempts last season.

DeShone Kizer constantly threw the ball down the field under Hue Jackson’s play-calling last season, and we all know how that turned out. It blew up in flames, leaving tons of question marks about Jackson’s judgment in managing his rookie signal-caller.

While Taylor’s probably not going to go deep as often, hopefully because Todd Haley doesn’t put his quarterback in that position, the Browns are loaded with potential playmakers who can stretch a football field.

Throwing the ball deep is essential to maintaining balance and keeping defenses honest. That much we do know, which means the long ball is more a tool than it is the entire toolbox.

“Trust me, Taylor will make enough deep attempts to keep the offense on schedule and keep opponents from constantly playing both safeties in the box,” Schatz concluded.

The best we can hope for this season is the Browns field a balanced offense that takes measured and calculated risks. Taylor seems to be a guy who is capable of playing within his system and taking those shots when he has to.

After seeing glimpses of the passing game in Week 1, then the rushing attack in Week 2, we’ll hopefully learn more about how the Browns offensive will operate as their starters are likely going to play the entire first half against the Eagles this week.

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@hoorta said:

MHO is those of you saying Taylor sucks are off base. His career 92 QBR and real nice TD to INT ratio puts him smack dab in the middle of starting QBs in 2017. He's an average starter. I'll take average for a while-  

https://www.brownszone.com/2018/09/07/browns-need-and-expect-big-things-from-tyrod-taylor-starting-with-opener-vs-steelers-coach-hue-jackson-says-the-key-to-his-future-will-be-these-kinds-of-games/  Tyrod Taylor has been given every chance from Dorsey on down to fill his pockets next season. Including weapons..Did ya watch Foles the other night? Here's the rest  https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/all/quarterback/   

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@choco said:

Leftwich? Do you even football?  You think the Earth is flat? You always just make Sheet up to suit your agenda/narrative?

My God you're a dumbfuk

Gooley really does not know much about the history of football despite his love of certain past football players a few Steelers that’s really all he knows about history not a Shmucking clueGooley really does not know much about the history of football despite his love of certain past football players a few Steelers that’s really all he knows about history not a Shmucking clue

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Zombo said:

Stabler was a great athlete too, was a running QB at Alabama before blowing out his knee ... turned into a pretty good pocket passer.

Zombo

Ditto for a guy named Joe Willie "something"...

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@ghoolie said:

NONE of those guys were slow footed dorks. Give it a rest.

Leftwich? Do you even football?  You think the Earth is flat? You always just make Sheet up to suit your agenda/narrative?

My God you're a dumbfuk

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@ghoolie said:

Tyrod Taylor is a run-first QB. A Black Tarkenton. I have been telling you all along, he will get hurt early and Mayfield will be thrust into the starting role. Only you dildoes can't see this coming. But by all means, go back to your bullschidt of regurgitating whatever the talking heads tell you.

T Y R O D  B L O W S

You obviously haven't watched any of his game tape. He's NOT a run first QB, and the stats say he doesn't blow. Don't like him because he's the wrong color? Mayfield ran as much (or more) than Tyrod in college.   

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/806422https://brownsboard.com/post/806422Sun, 26 Aug 2018 00:49:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tyrod Taylor and the Deep Ball on Sun, 26 Aug 2018 00:33:44 GMT]]> Tyrod Taylor is a run-first QB. A Black Tarkenton. I have been telling you all along, he will get hurt early and Mayfield will be thrust into the starting role. Only you dildoes can't see this coming. But by all means, go back to your bullschidt of regurgitating whatever the talking heads tell you.

T Y R O D  B L O W S

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@unsympathetic said:

Byron Leftwich

Doug Williams

Warren Moon

Jason Campbell

Geno Smith

Cardale Jones

Marino - yes, that Marino --  had over 1000 rushing yards along with his 1500 passing yards as a HS sr, and was drafted by the Royals as a CF. Not bad for a rushing QB.

NONE of those guys were slow footed dorks. Give it a rest.

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@unsympathetic said:

Byron Leftwich

Doug Williams

Warren Moon

Jason Campbell

Geno Smith

Cardale Jones

Marino - yes, that Marino --  had over 1000 rushing yards along with his 1500 passing yards as a HS sr, and was drafted by the Royals as a CF. Not bad for a rushing QB.

Stabler was a great athlete too, was a running QB at Alabama before blowing out his knee ... turned into a pretty good pocket passer.

Zombo

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@ghoolie said:

Name me a black kid who is slow footed and clumsy like Kosar, Fouts, Stabler, or Marino.  You can't.

Byron Leftwich

Doug Williams

Warren Moon

Jason Campbell

Geno Smith

Cardale Jones

Marino - yes, that Marino --  had over 1000 rushing yards along with his 1500 passing yards as a HS sr, and was drafted by the Royals as a CF. Not bad for a rushing QB.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/806394https://brownsboard.com/post/806394Sat, 25 Aug 2018 21:49:37 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tyrod Taylor and the Deep Ball on Sat, 25 Aug 2018 20:12:18 GMT]]> ghoolie isnt completely wrong. That slave to the combine stats mentality is what drives sports overall. I mean i rem when bosa benched 225 like 24 or 26 times and peopke here were like ehhh he's not so strong. And in his first game and on the first play if his nfl career, he stacks and sheds the best LT in football after missing a good chunk of TC with ham probs. 

point is theres alot of raw black athletes that get fallen in love with by coaches even tho theres other black athletes tgat are prob better suited for certain positions, like QB for example. But the raw pure athlete who runs a 4.4 gets elevated. 

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@browns1216 said:

give tyrod a chance before ruining Mayfield.  I think Mayfield could be a decent QB now, but he could be a great QB if he has time to learn the NFL.  Plus, the Browns were in several games until the last minutes of the 4th quarter/OT.  Tyrod gives them a chance to turn those close losses into close victories.

MHO is those of you saying Taylor sucks are off base. His career 92 QBR and real nice TD to INT ratio puts him smack dab in the middle of starting QBs in 2017. He's an average starter. I'll take average for a while- compared to the suckage we had at QB last year with Kizer.  

And another note. I'm tired of the personal insults two of you are throwing around again. I've warned you once before, keep it up and you're both going to get a kiddie time out. 

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/806363https://brownsboard.com/post/806363Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:26:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tyrod Taylor and the Deep Ball on Sat, 25 Aug 2018 18:14:41 GMT]]> still has left hand rapped  good news is zeitler is back to practice as is calloway and ward

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@dutch-oven said:

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Lame response Chumbly.. Go cuddle with your care bear!

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@ghoolie said:

Tyrod Blows

You make a perfect pair then....He blows and you suck.?

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/806339https://brownsboard.com/post/806339Sat, 25 Aug 2018 15:28:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Tyrod Taylor and the Deep Ball on Sat, 25 Aug 2018 11:44:30 GMT]]> I found this little video on youtube and since it includes Tyrod, thought it would be of interest concerning him and "the most interesting team in the NFL" .  Just ignore the plug at the start.

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@ghoolie said:

There is nothing racist about me. It is white coaches that create black Tarkentons. They see a black kid who is fast and from day one turn him into a running qb. He gets to the NFL and has no chance of doing anything. You think I am wrong? Racist? Name me ONE SLOW BLACK QB.............. Go ahead..............Name me a black kid who is slow footed and clumsy like Kosar, Fouts, Stabler, or Marino.  You can't.  Why do you think that is? I guess you believe all blacks are fast, right? YOU are the dumb racist bastuurd.

No black kid who is not fleet of foot has ever been groomed by HS, college and Pro coaches. Isn't it odd that you cannot name me one single black QB who was known for his smarts, intelligence, and leadership qualities............... like a Kosar.

Why do you think that is, axshole?  It is because of jackoffs like YOU... who think that you have to kiss a black man's ballsack and compliment anything he does, or make excuses for it. You are a pole smoker, a coward and the WORST kind of racist. I have spent more time on Mars than you have in the hood.

The term Black Tarkenton isn't about blacks you dumb piece of liberal cow dung. It is an indictment on what people like YOU....analytic fed dullards have done to black athletes.

A big reason white QBs are so much more successful than black QBs, is because the system chooses the wrong black kids to begin with. I promise you, there are plenty of young black kids who will never get a look at QB because they don't fit the "Black Tarkenton" mold that people like you (dumbassses) cheer and think of yourselves as the Harbingers of race relations.

Tyron sucks at the long ball because he doesn't have the life long training to be patient and read the field. If a quick pass is not open, he is a fish out of water. Early on, college, HS, he could run his way out of it. In the pros? All that Black Tarkenton training leaves him a sitting duck. That's why Black Tarkenton's never win championships and get injured quicker than the average whit QB.

It is the system that chooses these stereotype black QBs, that is racist, not me. As it happens, I LOVED McNair and Moon. Still think they are two of the best. What they weren't, however, was black Tarkentons. Tyrod is, and there is no going back for him.

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@dutch-oven said:

He's been sacked on average 40 times a season over the last three, because by accounts of Bills fans and media who follow the team he tends to hold on to the ball for too long, but don't let facts get in the way of one of your racist rants that make nickers rock hard. You two are adorable, by the way. 

There is nothing racist about me. It is white coaches that create black Tarkentons. They see a black kid who is fast and from day one turn him into a running qb. He gets to the NFL and has no chance of doing anything. You think I am wrong? Racist? Name me ONE SLOW BLACK QB.............. Go ahead..............Name me a black kid who is slow footed and clumsy like Kosar, Fouts, Stabler, or Marino.  You can't.  Why do you think that is? I guess you believe all blacks are fast, right? YOU are the dumb racist bastuurd.

No black kid who is not fleet of foot has ever been groomed by HS, college and Pro coaches. Isn't it odd that you cannot name me one single black QB who was known for his smarts, intelligence, and leadership qualities............... like a Kosar.

Why do you think that is, axshole?  It is because of jackoffs like YOU... who think that you have to kiss a black man's ballsack and compliment anything he does, or make excuses for it. You are a pole smoker, a coward and the WORST kind of racist. I have spent more time on Mars than you have in the hood.

The term Black Tarkenton isn't about blacks you dumb piece of liberal cow dung. It is an indictment on what people like YOU....analytic fed dullards have done to black athletes.

A big reason white QBs are so much more successful than black QBs, is because the system chooses the wrong black kids to begin with. I promise you, there are plenty of young black kids who will never get a look at QB because they don't fit the "Black Tarkenton" mold that people like you (dumbassses) cheer and think of yourselves as the Harbingers of race relations.

Tyron sucks at the long ball because he doesn't have the life long training to be patient and read the field. If a quick pass is not open, he is a fish out of water. Early on, college, HS, he could run his way out of it. In the pros? All that Black Tarkenton training leaves him a sitting duck. That's why Black Tarkenton's never win championships and get injured quicker than the average whit QB.

It is the system that chooses these stereotype black QBs, that is racist, not me. As it happens, I LOVED McNair and Moon. Still think they are two of the best. What they weren't, however, was black Tarkentons. Tyrod is, and there is no going back for him.

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@ghoolie said:

Black Tarkenton. The reason he is not good at the long ball is that he doesn't sit in the pocket long enough to let it unfold. If the quick pass is not there, he runs like a chicken with no head. Game Manager? He is a black Tarkenton, that's what he is.

He's been sacked on average 40 times a season over the last three, because by accounts of Bills fans and media who follow the team he tends to hold on to the ball for too long, but don't let facts get in the way of one of your racist rants that make nickers rock hard. You two are adorable, by the way. 

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@nickers said:

I don't care he blows...

Whether you are right or wrong its a much more concise stance youve taken lol

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@jcam222 said:

Game manager is a silly made up media term used instead of the term “average QB”. On this team Tyrod has an opportunity to be above average. He wasn’t asked to be a vertical QB Inc Buffalo. 

Tyrod Blows

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@nickers said:

I don't care he blows...

Nickers....................people hate it when you post something there is no retort to.

Tyrod Blows. I said it, you said it, Tyron showed it. He Blows. Any questions?

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@nickers said:

Baker is a Game Changer.. Tuh''rod is a game manager... I want the game changer...

Black Tarkenton. The reason he is not good at the long ball is that he doesn't sit in the pocket long enough to let it unfold. If the quick pass is not there, he runs like a chicken with no head. Game Manager? He is a black Tarkenton, that's what he is.

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@jcam222 said:

Game manager is a silly made up media term used instead of the term “average QB”. On this team Tyrod has an opportunity to be above average. He wasn’t asked to be a vertical QB Inc Buffalo. 

I don't care he blows...

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@nickers said:

Baker is a Game Changer.. Tuh''rod is a game manager... I want the game changer...

Game manager is a silly made up media term used instead of the term “average QB”. On this team Tyrod has an opportunity to be above average. He wasn’t asked to be a vertical QB Inc Buffalo. 

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