@mjp28 said:

That ImClone stock was a stupid small potatoes deal but the lying and attempted cover up got her in trouble. 

Yup... it's always the cover-up...

@syd said:

stallone had a strange role in that one

but not as strange as "the rock" in southland tales which btw had a killer soundtrack

@dutch-oven said:

He's really good in 'Copland' too. Underrated movie with a killer cast. 

stallone had a strange role in that one

@stillmotion said:

love me some goodfellas.

liotta was the man. too bad he kinda fell off.

He's really good in 'Copland' too. Underrated movie with a killer cast. 

@dutch-oven said:

The single-best quote from the movie 'Goodfellas', when Paul Sorvino's character is arrested his brother says to the cops: 

"Hey, why don't you go down to Wall Street and arrest some real crooks?"

love me some goodfellas.

liotta was the man. too bad he kinda fell off.

@falcon7 said:

(Financial crisis of 2007–2008) 

The largest man-made economic catastrophe since the Great Depression resulted in the jailing of a single investment banker. 

The single-best quote from the movie 'Goodfellas', when Paul Sorvino's character is arrested his brother says to the cops: 

"Hey, why don't you go down to Wall Street and arrest some real crooks?"

YEAR	TEAM	SALARY	SIGNING BONUS	ROSTER BONUS	WORKOUT BONUS	RESTRUCTURE BONUS	OPTION BONUS	INCENTIVE	TOTAL CASH
2012		$390,000	$1,672,324	-	-	-	-	-	$2,062,324
2013		$542,020	-	-	$50,000	-	-	-	$592,020
2014		$794,040	-	-	-	-	-	-	$794,040
2015		$896,060	$8,000,000	-	$100,000	-	-	$37,242	$9,033,302
2016		$2,850,000	-	-	$150,000	-	-	-	$3,000,000
2017		$4,850,000	-	-	$150,000	-	-	-	$5,000,000
6 seasons	$10,322,120	$9,672,324	-	$450,000	-	-	$37,242	$20,481,686
2018		-	$500,000	-	-	-	-	-	$500,000
	$10,322,120	$10,172,324	-	$450,000	-	-	$37,242	$20,981,686

Current Dead Contracts

YEAR   BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS WORKOUT BONUS DEAD CAP HIT 2018 - $1,600,000 - $1,600,000 2019 - $1,600,000 - $1,600,000

YEAR   BASE SALARY SIGNING BONUS WORKOUT BONUS DEAD CAP HIT 2018 - $500,000 - $500,000

The largest man-made economic catastrophe since the Great Depression resulted in the jailing of a single investment banker. 

@the-gipper said:

How much did he get?   I would think it highly possible that that would have to be returned.

500K signing bonus falls to dead cap or...

@mjp28 said:

My first inclination as well......pro bowl prospect, ah, well let's not rush to judgement just yet.

BUT I do like the way the "new" new BROWNS are being run, a vast improvement over the post 1996 or 1999+ versions. 

Agree!

Mike

@calfoxwc said:

I hope he has to return his signing bonus.

How much did he get?   I would think it highly possible that that would have to be returned.

@hoorta said:

IIRC Gip, Josh did get busted for a DUI.  But that's 3 days of drunk school and a $500 fine at worst, as opposed to the potential of multiple years in the Federal Slammer.  

Don't forget the 6 month license suspension for the DUI,   plus the $475.00 reinstatement fees. Plus, there is what we call the "hard time" suspension...i.e. the time that you cannot have driving privileges.  (10 days for a blow,  30 for a refusal).  Plus whatever your insurance will do to you.  Plus attorney fees if you decide to hire one.  In Ohio, on a first time only it is not mandatory to have "party plates"...or do do the ignition interlock system....though....some courts/judges can require those even on a first time offense.  

So....getting a DUI can cost a lot of money....and be very, very inconvenient.

It is not an insubstantial penalty.   Getting popped for weed is much less of a detriment.   You have  max  $150.00 fine, plus the license suspension (which is really just  a F8ck you penalty set up by the legislature).

@clevfan4life said:

dorsey appears to be a man who's in no mood for bullsht. I hope players took note

ya he's still pissed about Bakers parody of him

@calfoxwc said:

Did I see correctly that Kendricks admitted guilt after all?

athletic talent > brain talent

he did.  "i knew it was illegal" kinda flies in the face of being a victim...

athletic talent > brain talent

@the-gipper said:

And, again, his talent was not worth the wait.   Compare to Josh Gordon.  And, correct me if I am wrong, Josh never actually ever face a "criminal" charge for anything, did he?   Not even possession, ala Calloway.

IIRC Gip, Josh did get busted for a DUI.  But that's 3 days of drunk school and a $500 fine at worst, as opposed to the potential of multiple years in the Federal Slammer.  

@hoorta said:

Dorsey was mislead. Big difference in "victim" and "active participant". If you read deeper, Mychal and the broker were talking in code. JD wanted no part of the repercussions. 

And, again, his talent was not worth the wait.   Compare to Josh Gordon.  And, correct me if I am wrong, Josh never actually ever face a "criminal" charge for anything, did he?   Not even possession, ala Calloway.

@choco said:

this is the very telling portion....

Dorsey was mislead. Big difference in "victim" and "active participant". If you read deeper, Mychal and the broker were talking in code. JD wanted no part of the repercussions. 

@the-gipper said:

Well, OK, perhaps.   I still say that if he was a supreme talent, they would have waited, but since perhaps he did not distinguish himself all that much from the players he is competing with for a job, it made it a lot easier to axe him.   

My first inclination as well......pro bowl prospect, ah, well let's not rush to judgement just yet.

BUT I do like the way the "new" new BROWNS are being run, a vast improvement over the post 1996 or 1999+ versions. 

@choco said:

if you read up on it Gip, Dorsey said in a more round about way that Kendricks and his agent mislead them on the severity of his involvement, and thats why he was released.

Well, OK, perhaps.   I still say that if he was a supreme talent, they would have waited, but since perhaps he did not distinguish himself all that much from the players he is competing with for a job, it made it a lot easier to axe him.