*An English institution

@clevfan4life said:

they're in the nick bosa sweepstakes so maybe not

Bosa hurt and out most of the rest of the year.  He may decide to come back to OSU next year.

@hoorta said:

Regret shipping Mack out of town yet?  

they're in the nick bosa sweepstakes so maybe not

@coyote said:

The Browns tend to struggle on the West coast, but I think this is a very winnable game for them.   Raiders on the other hand should be desperate.   If they lose this game their season could easily fall into a death spiral.   

What's the old saying? The most dangerous team is the one that hasn't won yet. LOL, guess that didn't apply to the Browns last year though. Ditto the above, Raiders will be desperate for their first win- at home. 

As far as hoping for a death spiral is concerned, Raiders only come behind the Steelers and Patriots in my book. The Rovin' Raiders get exactly what they deserve. Enjoy that $100 million Chuckie. Regret shipping Mack out of town yet?  

@hoorta said:

the only game I'd pencil in as a certain loss is the Chiefs game. 

@clevfan4life said:

browns have to show me alot more than they have if im supposed to.pencil in chiefs week as a win

h did not correct you, but I took his post as meaning we were going to lose to the Chiefs.

@hoorta said:

Funny thing when I was looking up those team stats on the Raiders.   

I think we may see Ward on a much faster 6'1" Amari Cooper than a slowing 6'3"Jordy Nelson? TE Jared Cook scares the heck out of me..big test for a LB'er or Randall..

@ibleedbrown said:

You want them to send you nudes?

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@clevfan4life said:

Browns have to show me a lot more than they have if I'm supposed to.pencil in Chiefs week as a win

Funny thing when I was looking up those team stats on the Raiders.  The only reason everyone is loving on the Chiefs is because Mahomes is putting up video game numbers. Their Defense is putting up video game numbers too- in a bad way. Dead last in yards allowed per game and 30th in points allowed. 

@clevfan4life said:

browns have to show me alot more than they have if im supposed to.pencil in chiefs week as a win

You want them to send you nudes?

@ghoolie said:

Both are Browns wins. Ma Homos will schidt his pants against the Browns D. The reason the betting in Vegas is favoring the Browns is mostly because the bookies tune in to TBB to read my posts. Stan and I get a lot of requests to visit the sports books to give pointers in Vegas. Mark it here, dude, the Browns will beat the snot out of the Raiders. 38 - 10

Ya know, I was just doing some preliminary scouting for Da Ray-dah's Game. Gruden might start wishing he stayed in broadcasting, he just might do it if Oakland falls flat on their face. Stay tuned. 

Here's their depth chart:  https://www.raiders.com/team/depth-chart  Some impressive names on it.  BUT- A lot of that talent is old.  Just might be the reason they've fallen apart in the 4th quarter of their games. Look for Ward to cover Jordy Nelson- he did rack up an impressive 170 yards in that loss against the Dolphins. No one on their D exactly instills fright in me. Baker plays like he did against the Jets, just might be a blowout for us. 

PS, their offense is putting up a lot of yards #6, but not scoring much- only #28. Defense is middle of the road #19.   

@hoorta said:

Hey 8-7-1 is better than .500    

Tour, I'll get back to you after the Raiders game. We win there (BTW, the betting in Vegas is heavy on the Browns, the line dropped by a point) assuming that happens, the only game I'd pencil in as a certain loss is the Chiefs game. 

Both are Browns wins. Ma Homos will schidt his pants against the Browns D. The reason the betting in Vegas is favoring the Browns is mostly because the bookies tune in to TBB to read my posts. Stan and I gt a lot of requests to visit the sports books to give pointers in Vegas. Mark it here, dude, the Browns will beat the snot out of the Raiders. 38 - 10

@mr.-make-believe said:

I know it's an improvement over the last couple of years, but I still can't fathom being happy with a four or five win season. Ever. That's the record of a garbage football team. 

I'd be happy with 8-8 (8-7-1). That's not a SB team or even a playoff team. But it's a respectable record. And it shouldn't be too much to ask. 

Hey 8-7-1 is better than .500    

@tour2ma said:

As for the record... still hard for me to see a winning season, because I look at the schedule and after next week it gets nothing, but harder.

Tour, I'll get back to you after the Raiders game. We win there (BTW, the betting in Vegas is heavy on the Browns, the line dropped by a point) assuming that happens, the only game I'd pencil in as a certain loss is the Chiefs game. 

@ghoolie said:

SO you think Baker is going to fail or succeed based on how enthusiastic fans are? WTF?

Of course that is not true.   That is what many Steeler fans think.....and we know that they are the stupidest fan base in the NFL.

It is great to be enthusiastic about your team, but it doesn't even amount to a cabbage fart to the actual outcome of games.

@the-gipper said:

On any given SundayOn any given Sunday

Yep,Yep,yep

@jiggins7919 said:

27-0 now! Yo! And could've been worse because Josh Allen through a beautiful 60 yard bomb that was dropped. 

On any given SundayOn any given Sunday

@the-gipper said:

Bills were leading  the Vikings 16 to nothing Vikings are my choices for the Super Bowl in the NFC

27-0 now! Yo! And could've been worse because Josh Allen through a beautiful 60 yard bomb that was dropped. 

@the-gipper said:

Bills were leading  the Vikings 16 to nothing Vikings are my choices for the Super Bowl in the NFC

17-0 and now on the Minn 4

EDIT: 24-0

EDIT #2: And McCoy is inactive for the Bills today

@jiggins7919 said:

Oh, I totally agree. I was just kind of saying it'd be nice if we had a FEW teams that weren't playing well. Specifically the Lions, Cardinals, or the Bills. Lol lol

Bills were leading  the Vikings 16 to nothing Vikings are my choices for the Super Bowl in the NFC

@jiggins7919 said:

You basically mirrored several of my posts with this, so obviously I totally agree. We got some luck, maybe it's about time. Carlos Hyde is GOING to fumble soon, he holds it with one hand too often. Baker Mayfield WILL throw some INT's, especially over the middle. A savvy defense will bait him into those "tight window" tosses, and be ready to grab it. However, the difference between Baker and other qb's we've had is Baker WILL learn. I believe that. I think our kicker will cost us some potential games. He didn't exactly inspire confidence with his performance, did he? The Banana Kick FG? The squeeze in extra point? Although his last extra point was perfect and his last kickoff hasn't LANDED yet, lol. He was JUICED boy. 

We aren't a complete team, and we knew that. Special teams will continue to dog us unless a miracle happens. Baker WILL get hurt if he continues to take those kind of hits. But hey, with a little luck, we can win more games than some think. I now believe that. Oakland doesn't have a pass rush now. This next game will be VERY interesting from a Baker perspective. 

Yup... we're in lockstep.

Think our Kicker had a few butterflies early? He settled in late. Now we have to see how he handles his first miss.

Incomplete and not deep... injuries are going injury worked to our benefit play a big role in determining our record. So far we've been hit where we are deepest, LB and DB.

And with apologies to Tyrod, where we are thin, QB, our one ding worked to our advantage. But at some point we'll have some time missed in the OL, and at RB and WR.