@tour2ma said:

It's been pointed out that Fitz has excelled whenever he is brought in to be "the backup" and ends up playing. When brought in to be "the guy" he's not delivered.

At TB he was brought in to QB for three games. So it's not surprising that he went off again. He's playing with house money.

The perfect back up QB. I'm kinda surprised that we didn't draft him. 

At TB he was brought in to QB for three games. So it's not surprising that he went off again. He's playing with house money.

1. He gets a backup contract

2. The starter gets injured/a suspension

3. He plays great for some games

4. People talk about him as a franchise QB, as they are marvelled.

5. He hosts a "Get a free pick today" party.

6. He gets canned or traded.

7. Start again.

I love the dude. 

@hoorta said:

But instead they get the Ryan Fitz-suck-trick. 

I new he would fall to earth at some point 3 picks in 6 mins

@hoorta said:

Looks like the Steelers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. 

Bell is not in a good position either. If I were Pgh, I’d let him sit. He’s worth $850K in cap space each week. If he signs as a FA with another team after the season, Pgh gets what, maybe a third round comp pick in 2020? I doubt any team will give up more than that (probably less) for a rental player, so there is the incentive to let him hang out in strip clubs in Miami. He won’t get injured there unless some ho slaps him.

If he does not sign the franchise deal, they could franchise him again next year, though I could not imagine it. It does give them some leverage.

When he does sign with another team, I imagine it would be like Pgh waking up from surgery and being told the surgeon got all the cancer out.

@hoorta said:

But instead they get the Ryan Fitz-suck-trick. 

The first half I was calling him "Fitztragic"... then the magic returned.

Would have been interesting if TB had managed one more defensive stop.

@hoorta said:

But instead they get the Ryan Fitz-suck-trick. 

I was against Fitz on one FL and beat him on the other i had Fitz and lost against that old Frankenstien Roethlisberger on the last scoring drive by less than 3 points.....geeeezzzzz.

Fitzpatrick I heard something like three 400+ yard games in a row an NFL record? Got him as a replacement for Aaron Rodgers when he was hurt.

And Winston is back to TB next week, does Fitz still start? Hmmmmm.

@syd said:

FUK pit hope they get their A$$ Kicked Tonight

But instead they get the Ryan Fitz-suck-trick. 

@hoorta said:

But assuming he gets traded, can the new team renegotiate his contract?

I gotta believe that the rule is fairly soft here. Not saying he can sign a new deal with a new team, but if they negotiate a handshake, long-term deal, he would then sign the tag and move on.

Kinda like the "no tampering" period just ahead of the start of UFA.

@poeticg said:

Josh becomes a free agent after the season, so if he stays on the field and stays on track the I bet the Browns might decide to bring him home... 

You're really tripping.

@gunz41 said:

From my understanding, he must sign that franchise tag to play, and thus when traded the new team must pay him that. He cannot negotiate a new deal until next year

That was my take and anyteam willing to trade him wont give up too much to get him for a year rental. I would also be better to let him walk and then the Steelers can get the compensatory pick a year later it will probably be higher than any pick anyone offers them.

@the-gipper said:

I think if he wants his money....he will have to go to wherever will pay him.  Super Bowl aspirations or not.   He has demonstrated that he is all about the money....NOT winning or making the playoffs.   If he was into that, he would be playing now for a team that many think has Super Bowl aspirations  (while some of the rest of us think that team is dreaming if they do....not with that defense.  I would love to see FitzMagic shred that defense tonight)

True, but I think his point is only a team with SB aspirations will trade for him.

@hoorta said:

Then the question is- what team is going to pay franchise money for a potential one year rent-a-player? Looking at Spotrac, there's no team with Super Bowl aspirations this year that has the cap room to eat $14 million. 

I think if he wants his money....he will have to go to wherever will pay him.  Super Bowl aspirations or not.   He has demonstrated that he is all about the money....NOT winning or making the playoffs.   If he was into that, he would be playing now for a team that many think has Super Bowl aspirations  (while some of the rest of us think that team is dreaming if they do....not with that defense.  I would love to see FitzMagic shred that defense tonight)

@hoorta said:

Then the question is- what team is going to pay franchise money for a potential one year rent-a-player? Looking at Spotrac, there's no team with Super Bowl aspirations this year that has the cap room to eat $14 million. 

Well have to remember that if he were traded tomorrow that 3 million would be off from 1st 3 games. Still don't think a team wants that. 

@cvcanedy said:

That would be crazy, but plausible.

Rust never sleeps

@flyingfooldoug said:

I get the feeling that he's going the same way as a ex Frisco qb went. 

That would be crazy, but plausible.

@hoorta said:

Then the question is- what team is going to pay franchise money for a potential one year rent-a-player? Looking at Spotrac, there's no team with Super Bowl aspirations this year that has the cap room to eat $14 million. 

I get the feeling that he's going the same way as a ex Frisco qb went. 

@gunz41 said:

From my understanding, he must sign that franchise tag to play, and thus when traded the new team must pay him that. He cannot negotiate a new deal until next year

Then the question is- what team is going to pay franchise money for a potential one year rent-a-player? Looking at Spotrac, there's no team with Super Bowl aspirations this year that has the cap room to eat $14 million. 

@hoorta said:

But assuming he gets traded, can the new team renegotiate his contract?

At this point, what team is going to have both the cap room and sufficient need\ interest to eat the rest of that franchise tag? 

Looks like the Steelers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Couldn't happen to a nicer team. 

From my understanding, he must sign that franchise tag to play, and thus when traded the new team must pay him that. He cannot negotiate a new deal until next year

@the-gipper said:

I think the Steelers do not think they are stuck as you say.   I think that they think that they can use Conner just about in the capacity as they used Bell....ergo their now willingness to trade him.

True in that respect. Their ability to unload Bell if at all, for what they percieve to be fair value remains to be seen.

@hoorta said:

But assuming he gets traded, can the new team renegotiate his contract?

At this point, what team is going to have both the cap room and sufficient need\ interest to eat the rest of that franchise tag? 

Looks like the Steelers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Couldn't happen to a nicer team. 

I think the Steelers do not think they are stuck as you say.   I think that they think that they can use Conner just about in the capacity as they used Bell....ergo their now willingness to trade him.

@gunz41 said:

He cant step on field without signing it. So it is sign it and play, sign it and get traded, or be released 

But assuming he gets traded, can the new team renegotiate his contract?

At this point, what team is going to have both the cap room and sufficient need\ interest to eat the rest of that franchise tag? 

Looks like the Steelers are stuck between a rock and a hard place. Couldn't happen to a nicer team. 

@poeticg said:

Josh becomes a free agent after the season, so if he stays on the field and stays on track the I bet the Browns might decide to bring him home...