here's the guy from the buckeyes who build success in CB's/ST's at OSU.. https://www.titansonline.com/team/coaches-roster/kerry-coombs  Hillard who was brought up from PS, is not ready in catching the punt game/Amos. Watching Kick-offs over his head for now is..So who is? with Calloway dropping ball and Peppers making bad choices? back to Landry? 

@gumby73 said:

   Nah-nu..Nah-nu..Textbook block brah..

That speed ain't to be messed with! 

@tour2ma said:

Where's our 9th blocker? Were you told there'd be no math?

Six on four is as much advantage as FG defenders can get after the 2016 rule that protected the long-snapper and FG OL. Also those defenders who start off the LOS can neither push their front liners or jump. Which brings us to...

Front liners can still jump so long as they jump up and not forward so as to land on the blockers.

I did not know there was a flag either, but in looking at the play I think BLT violated the 6-man limit to one side of the long-snapper.They lined up just fine...

... but then the two Ravens to the left then rushed to the right creating an overload that the rule outlawed.

Well, usually the long snapper doesn't block anyone...  because the defense can't hit him.   Effectively equals eight other guys doing the blocking....   

Wasn't aware of the other "rules" about defending on a FG....    

@jiggins7919 said:

 I thought they blocked it. Like, fully blocked it. When he kicked, it looked very similar to the blocked Tucker kick before half, just for a nano second, 

   Nah-nu..Nah-nu..Textbook block brah..

@tour2ma said:

I did not know there was a flag either, but in looking at the play I think BLT violated the 6-man limit to one side of the long-snapper.

correct also. WR #14 Tim White who returned 5 kicks. In Donovans video,Smith lines up at bottom of screen next to Tony Jefferson. At 9 secs. White jumps the snap count landing in front of kicker.. 

@hoorta said:

The other thing that just came to mind Tour- on field goal attempts. The defense can't line up directly over the kicker anymore- or leapfrogging, meaning you're always going to have 8 guys trying to block eleven. 

Where's our 9th blocker? Were you told there'd be no math?

Six on four is as much advantage as FG defenders can get after the 2016 rule that protected the long-snapper and FG OL. Also those defenders who start off the LOS can neither push their front liners or jump. Which brings us to...

@hoorta said:

Not "maybe" Nero. Take a look at the video Gumby posted. New camera angle, and one of the Ravens clearly jumped. So even if the kick would have been blocked, we still would have gotten another chance.

Front liners can still jump so long as they jump up and not forward so as to land on the blockers.

I did not know there was a flag either, but in looking at the play I think BLT violated the 6-man limit to one side of the long-snapper.

They lined up just fine...

... but then the two Ravens to the left then rushed to the right creating an overload that the rule outlawed.

@gumby73 said:

Don't rain on Donovan's parade ??... 

*click* for winning goose pimples..??  

God that was incredible. I thought they blocked it. Like, fully blocked it. When he kicked, it looked very similar to the blocked Tucker kick before half, just for a nano second, but then I saw the crowd and it was pandemonium at my house! 

@nero said:

Me neither. Maybe they were offsides and that helped them to block the FG.

Not "maybe" Nero. Take a look at the video Gumby posted. New camera angle, and one of the Ravens clearly jumped. So even if the kick would have been blocked, we still would have gotten another chance.

@dutch-oven said:

Now I get why Hue seemed to be telling his players to stick around after the kick... I didn't realize there was a penalty. 

Me neither. Maybe they were offsides and that helped them to block the FG.

*click* for winning goose pimples..??  

@tour2ma said:

Photo show Fells reaching for the edge man... who has stumbled and is going to the turf... while Corbett is getting stood up and moved inside.

The combo created the rush lane for the Raven that got a hand on the kick.

And speaking of getting stood up... Hubbard got freakin' owned. LAC's advanced scouts are going to note that.

The other thing that just came to mind Tour- on field goal attempts. The defense can't line up directly over the kicker anymore- or leapfrogging, meaning you're always going to have 8 guys trying to block eleven. 

@tour2ma said:

And speaking of getting stood up... Hubbard got freakin' owned. LAC's advanced scouts are going to note that.

I don't care if they note it. What I do care about is that WE note it and do something to fix it all.

Mike
 

The combo created the rush lane for the Raven that got a hand on the kick.

And speaking of getting stood up... Hubbard got freakin' owned. LAC's advanced scouts are going to note that.

@jiggins7919 said:

So we know it was definitely partially blocked, but do we know how to fix the problem? I can't imagine the outrage that would've followed if the block prevented the FG from being good. 

Maybe someone who knows more about FG protection can help me out. I read in an article that our backup TE was responsible for blocking two people on the game winner. The author intimated that it was a special teams coaching mistake having our TE matched up on two people by himself. Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown? Cuz let me tell you, things would've gotten UGLY if they blocked that kick from going through, lol. Also, when the Steelers potential winning kick was blocked, it appeared as if three Steelers ran over Bitonio to get the ball. Why not just rush three players at one blocker every time? So many NFL games come down to just a few points. Our special teams are such garbage, I just hope they don't cause us to lose any other games in horrific, heartbreaking fashion. Lol. 

We went through this already- take a look at the left side of our FG unit, and the problems is obvious....   two of our guys, and four of theirs...   

@nero said:

That's what I meant... I guess the mechanics of kicking a ball is similar to soccer: the lower you kick it, the higher the starting angle.

Ed Zachery...

@tour2ma said:

He hit the ball a tad too high, i.e.,  too much towards its middle.

He'll be fine...

That's what I meant... I guess the mechanics of kicking a ball is similar to soccer: the lower you kick it, the higher the starting angle.

@jiggins7919 said:

Is this normal? Or did we have a protection breakdown?

Simple math... 11 rushers in an all-out block effort vs. 9 blockers... means at least one player on the end of the line (usually the end towards the middle of the field) has two rushers to "handle".

His first responsibility is to disrupt the inside man, but to do so as wide as possible to make the outside man's path longer.

@nero said:

Hopefully he'll get to know that you have to kick it with a higher angle so you avoid getting tipped not losing any distance.

He hit the ball a tad too high, i.e.,  too much towards its middle.

He'll be fine...

@flyingfooldoug said:

That's all on coaching. Good ST = good coach. 

I'd add coaching technique..Denzel Ward's arms are locked attacking kicking zone.Tony Jefferson shot through so quick, he forget to bring his arms up with him only leaving a swipe or punch at the ball that causes mostly tips.