<![CDATA[cowboys vs texans....who watched that?]]> Holy fuk that was an amazing game. Yeah I know we all want to talk about the Browns win....but that was another outstanding SNF game. One of the things that stood out to me was how awesome JJ Watt still is. They're using him now as the LDE in their 43....and he's a Shmucking truck still. It makes me wonder how much sicker his career stats would have been if he had been coming off the edge in a 43 instead of having to do all the interior heavy lifting all those years. I mean my god the Dallas O line was nearly defenseless against him and clowney. If it werent' for Daks mobility they might have broken the single game sack mark. What was even more astounding was how Watt looked when they lined him up on the right side against Tyron Fukking Smith. Best LT in football right? Watt blew by him. Watt doesn't have to rush wide, he just takes the outside shoulder. When he was at LDE the RG had to kick out almost every time to help the RT deal with fukking watt. 

The greater point that i'd like to make....is we need a hybrid DT/DE like that on the left side. We've got that rare fukker on the right side that can drop back and still be a DE/DT. On the left side i'd like to see us get a 290'ish lb dude that can play the 5 tech in our 34 fronts and be perfectly at home carving off the RT's shoulder lining up wide in the 43 front. That's kind of why I wanted the Browns to at least give Hurst a look last year in the draft......and, well....he's doing quite nicely now at Oak doing pretty much exactly as I described coming off the left side .

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@tour2ma said:

True... and on it's own Nick taking a pass on the rest of his college career might not be a big deal, but taken with Joey's injury issues it just might give teams pause.

Plus there's not very limited tape on the improved 2018 edition of Nick... and what there is is largely against less than stellar opposition.

yes yes, fall to us nick bosa fall!!!!

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@texasag1969 said:

Well Clowney played his last year just trying to avoid injury so we saw how that worked out.

True... and on it's own Nick taking a pass on the rest of his college career might not be a big deal, but taken with Joey's injury issues it just might give teams pause.

Plus there's not very limited tape on the improved 2018 edition of Nick... and what there is is largely against less than stellar opposition.

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@mld-woody said:

And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

His injury was going to prevent him from playing this year anyway so this is probably the prudent responsible move for his futureHis injury was going to prevent him from playing this year anyway so this is probably the prudent responsible move for his future

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/821765https://brownsboard.com/post/821765Wed, 17 Oct 2018 12:51:54 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to cowboys vs texans....who watched that? on Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:42:16 GMT]]> I wonder how long it will be for a scholarship that has a contract attached for a ball player to honor?

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@tour2ma said:

I wonder how this will be taken...

Well Clowney played his last year just trying to avoid injury so we saw how that worked out.

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@tour2ma said:

I wonder how this will be taken...

not hard math, he watched his brother get a ~20m signing bonus....

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@mld-woody said:

And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

I wonder how this will be taken...

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@mld-woody said:

And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

damn. ah well

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/821567https://brownsboard.com/post/821567Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:10:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to cowboys vs texans....who watched that? on Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:03:46 GMT]]> And Bosa is withdrawing from OSU to focus on the draft

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/821565https://brownsboard.com/post/821565Tue, 16 Oct 2018 16:03:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to cowboys vs texans....who watched that? on Tue, 09 Oct 2018 20:59:32 GMT]]> Nick Bosa's stock could drop if teams worry about re-injury. Not everyday you hear of a player tearing his "core"...

And it may be circumstantial, but Joey's inclination to be injured doesn't help Nick's case.

But on ability? Top three...

@dutch-oven said:

I'd take Houston's Ed Oliver too.... Aaron Donald Part II... 

Yup... The kid is amazing.

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@mld-woody said:

No, no it wouldn't. But we've gone over this before so I'll leave it be.

You don't know that.  You have no clue how/if it will/would affect his  draft positioning.

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@the-gipper said:

OK, I was not thinking in terms of  trading up.   But I do think that not playing would have to cost him some draft positioning.  I mean.....he was considered almost a consensus #1 overall pick.   If he drops down to anywhere below that I think his injury will have cost him.  If he were to go lower than #3  it would be unquestionable that it did. 

No, no it wouldn't. But we've gone over this before so I'll leave it be.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/819663https://brownsboard.com/post/819663Tue, 09 Oct 2018 18:30:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to cowboys vs texans....who watched that? on Tue, 09 Oct 2018 17:31:51 GMT]]> Good news for us is joey won't be playing when we play the chargers. he's out till November. I'd give the chargers Og and our 1st rounder for Joey. Now that we have Myles Joey might reconsider playing for clev. There's rumors he's not terribly happy playing in SD. 

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@mld-woody said:

No, I mean cost as in draft capital. What it would take to move up to get them. 

The only way Bosa falls anywhere near the middle of the first is if his injury gets flagged at the combine or something. Even if he doesn't play another snap for OSU he'll be higher than that. 

OK, I was not thinking in terms of  trading up.   But I do think that not playing would have to cost him some draft positioning.  I mean.....he was considered almost a consensus #1 overall pick.   If he drops down to anywhere below that I think his injury will have cost him.  If he were to go lower than #3  it would be unquestionable that it did. 

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@the-gipper said:

Well....the cost is set under  the rookie pay scale, and who cares about that except the guy who has to write the check. 

The actual "cost" to the Browns would be:  if they expect to get either of those guys, they would have to like not win any more games this year.  I think that Bosa could lose some ground, some draft positioning due to his injury and being out all year.  But would he fall into the middle of the first round?  I would doubt that.

No, I mean cost as in draft capital. What it would take to move up to get them. 

The only way Bosa falls anywhere near the middle of the first is if his injury gets flagged at the combine or something. Even if he doesn't play another snap for OSU he'll be higher than that. 

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@mld-woody said:

Correct. Except the Boss at LB part. 

That comment was more around the idea that we couldn't possibly get Bosa but Oliver might fall to us. They're both going near the top and both will have similar costs, IMO

Well....the cost is set under  the rookie pay scale, and who cares about that except the guy who has to write the check. 

The actual "cost" to the Browns would be:  if they expect to get either of those guys, they would have to like not win any more games this year.  I think that Bosa could lose some ground, some draft positioning due to his injury and being out all year.  But would he fall into the middle of the first round?  I would doubt that.

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@texasag1969 said:

Hopkins got me 49 points in FF with that last reception. Now Drew Brees needs to come through with a couple of TD passes tonight for me to take the $40 prize for this week. Don't give it to those damn runners Drew! Throw it to 'em is fine though.  LOL!?

Thank you Drew.?

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@the-gipper said:

Different positions aren’t they ? I thought Oliver was more defensive tackle inside presence where as Bosa was a defensive end/linebacker with pressure from the outside

Correct. Except the Boss at LB part. 

That comment was more around the idea that we couldn't possibly get Bosa but Oliver might fall to us. They're both going near the top and both will have similar costs, IMO

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@mld-woody said:

Oliver and Bosa are going to be rated very similarly. Both near the top.

Different positions aren’t they ? I thought Oliver was more defensive tackle inside presence where as Bosa was a defensive end/linebacker with pressure from the outside

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@clevfan4life said:

just watched tape of oliver.....holy sheet. Houston uses him primarily as a DT cause #collegegame.    He's the prototype 5T/SDE. Ic more wstt than sapp in that guy. Thats my pick if he's there or we can trade up. Bosa cost too much fir a trade up....but maybe we can land him. Fuk his speed is unreal.....his stats have been nerfed playing on the inside...promise. That dude will be fire coming off inbetween guard/tackle or outside tackle

Oliver and Bosa are going to be rated very similarly. Both near the top.

]]>https://brownsboard.com/post/819480https://brownsboard.com/post/819480Tue, 09 Oct 2018 03:52:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to cowboys vs texans....who watched that? on Tue, 09 Oct 2018 03:05:26 GMT]]> just watched tape of oliver.....holy sheet. Houston uses him primarily as a DT cause #collegegame.    He's the prototype 5T/SDE. Ic more wstt than sapp in that guy. Thats my pick if he's there or we can trade up. Bosa cost too much fir a trade up....but maybe we can land him. Fuk his speed is unreal.....his stats have been nerfed playing on the inside...promise. That dude will be fire coming off inbetween guard/tackle or outside tackle

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@mld-woody said:

Our DL would terrorize the NFL for years to  come... holy Sheet. Maybe we just trade up for him and go all in?

I'd have to see how the Draft shook out. From the sounds of it the Browns could just sit wherever they land and a really good DLineman will fall to them. 

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@dutch-oven said:

Man, the idea of Ogunjobi and Oliver next to each other, with Garrett on the outside is scary.

But I can't see the Browns ending up anywhere near Ed Oliver territory in this draft.  

Our DL would terrorize the NFL for years to  come... holy Sheet. Maybe we just trade up for him and go all in?

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