@gumby73 said:

Dorsey apparently was in on Golden...  https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Golden-Tate-Eagles-trade-Browns-Patriots-pursued-him-124057229/   

Well...there ya go.  That should shut up all the people bitching that the Browns didn't do anything.  They were interested in someone and had their price and weren't going to overpay.  Nice work by Dorsey.

@mark-o said:

Golden Tate to the Eagles for a 3rd round pick

Dorsey apparently was in on Golden...  https://247sports.com/nfl/cleveland-browns/Article/Golden-Tate-Eagles-trade-Browns-Patriots-pursued-him-124057229/   

@louisville-slugger said:

No we would be investing a 4th into the development of your QB. What if Thomas clicked with Baker and was a top 10 WR? Then that 14 mil is a bargain and we not desperate for a WR this offseason. We have a ton of cap we have to spend it at some point

Not for a 30 year old receiver who is still going to be a free agent after the next season.  It's not a good investement for this team at this point

@mark-o said:

Sure...but he's also 30 years old with a $14,000,000 contract for 2019 and then he's a FA.     That's the thing no one is getting when saying we could've traded for this guy or that guy.   The only players being moved were potential free agents or guys with really bad contracts.   For Houston, it's a good trade.  They get a good receiver (since they need one with the Fuller injury) and they should win their division and make the playoffs.   Giving up draft picks and being on the hook for 14 million next year isn't worth it for a team that isn't making the playoffs this year.

Zombo said it in another thread.  You guys are suggesting trades for a team that is 5-2-1 not a team that is 2-5-1.  

No we would be investing a 4th into the development of your QB. What if Thomas clicked with Baker and was a top 10 WR? Then that 14 mil is a bargain and we not desperate for a WR this offseason. We have a ton of cap we have to spend it at some point

@louisville-slugger said:

We could have had D. Thomas for a 4th, and I think he would have really helped Baker.  Callaway can't catch, Higgins has been hurt, and the rest of the guys are trash. I felt like Baker was overthinking last game because he know his WR is either going to drop it or run the wrong route.

I dont see how we allow people to play poorly and keep their job. Robinson, Hubbard, Bitonio, Corbett, or Watford should be getting snaps at LT. 

Same like the guys saying just give Dez Bryant a call  

@louisville-slugger said:

We could have had D. Thomas for a 4th, and I think he would have really helped Baker.  Callaway can't catch, Higgins has been hurt, and the rest of the guys are trash. I felt like Baker was overthinking last game because he know his WR is either going to drop it or run the wrong route.

I dont see how we allow people to play poorly and keep their job. Robinson, Hubbard, Bitonio, Corbett, or Watford should be getting snaps at LT. 

Sure...but he's also 30 years old with a $14,000,000 contract for 2019 and then he's a FA.     That's the thing no one is getting when saying we could've traded for this guy or that guy.   The only players being moved were potential free agents or guys with really bad contracts.   For Houston, it's a good trade.  They get a good receiver (since they need one with the Fuller injury) and they should win their division and make the playoffs.   Giving up draft picks and being on the hook for 14 million next year isn't worth it for a team that isn't making the playoffs this year.

Zombo said it in another thread.  You guys are suggesting trades for a team that is 5-2-1 not a team that is 2-5-1.  

@hoorta said:

I'll echo Mark here. What would you have done Mr. GM wanna be? Pull a stud LT out of your azz? Go ahead, we're listening.

We could have had D. Thomas for a 4th, and I think he would have really helped Baker.  Callaway can't catch, Higgins has been hurt, and the rest of the guys are trash. I felt like Baker was overthinking last game because he know his WR is either going to drop it or run the wrong route.

I dont see how we allow people to play poorly and keep their job. Robinson, Hubbard, Bitonio, Corbett, or Watford should be getting snaps at LT. 

@clevfan4life said:

so why do u constantly respond to every post of mine when u essentially are acknowledging "there aint sht we can do, seasons over anyways".....there are "things" we could have done. Nobody was claiming there was anybody out there that puts us in the playoffs, but there were things we could do TO PRESERVE BAKER U NITWIT. Thats what people have been concerned about....not letting this lost season destroy YET ANOTHER high draft qb.

grasp what people are saying or shut it. that simple

I'll echo Mark here. What would you have done Mr. GM wanna be? Pull a stud LT out of your azz? Go ahead, we're listening.

edit:  4 hours later, still listening...  

@clevfan4life said:

so why do u constantly respond to every post of mine when u essentially are acknowledging "there aint sht we can do, seasons over anyways".....there are "things" we could have done. Nobody was claiming there was anybody out there that puts us in the playoffs, but there were things we could do TO PRESERVE BAKER U NITWIT. Thats what people have been concerned about....not letting this lost season destroy YET ANOTHER high draft qb.

grasp what people are saying or shut it. that simple

And I'll ask you the same question.  Who would you have traded for and what would you have given up?   All you people do is whine and bitch but you don't have any actual rational ideas. 

I never said the season was over.  Are we going to playoffs? No most likely we are not.  But did anyone really, honestly expect playoffs this season anyways??    Even with 2 wins and a tie in 8 games the season has been a drastic improvement over the last 2 seasons.  These things take time and it doesn't happen over night.

@mark-o said:

The problem is too many "fans" sit around at home in their mommy and daddy's  basement playing Madden and there you can make trades all you want and nothing long term matters.   Since it's all a game you actually can trade for a Britt or a Bowe and you get the full potential and ability.  In reality, you trade for a guy like that and all he's doing is cashing checks and wasting a roster spot and the reps of a guy who needs them to get better.

so why do u constantly respond to every post of mine when u essentially are acknowledging "there aint sht we can do, seasons over anyways".....there are "things" we could have done. Nobody was claiming there was anybody out there that puts us in the playoffs, but there were things we could do TO PRESERVE BAKER U NITWIT. Thats what people have been concerned about....not letting this lost season destroy YET ANOTHER high draft qb.

grasp what people are saying or shut it. that simple

@londonbrown said:

Ha Ha Clinton Hue traded to the Skins 

Most impactful move I see... 'Skins D  is already very good and it just got better.

@d-bone said:

I would love to see Collins dumped today. 

he has a great tackling technique....its called the spin move....he spins around like a clueless top with his hands out in the air....its hilarious, i wish i could send a  photo to finger butkus....he'd get a good laugh out of it...i know i do....

@darren15 said:

I was expecting departures even tho we needed additions ....rumors of Collins, Tyrod and DeValve all being shipped out ...thankfully it did not happen

Collins is expensive, Tyrod is insurance, and Devalve is a young guy with potential...  

@louisville-slugger said:

Since we didn't get Baker any help and we have a rookie play caller, I dont care about wins anymore. I want to play super conservative and develop our rookie QB. It wouldn't hurt my feeling if we just benched Baker so we dont crush his confidence

I’ve been saying that all year. No reason to play Baker in an offense that he won’t be in next year 

They don’t need a rookie QB in numerous systems 

@tiamat63 said:

Good christ.  As if they needed more help.  

Holy sh.it! The are definitely thinking SB Champs now! No fooling around.

@babernakle said:

They are all in they have this year and next and there done for ten years that might be why McVay is tops of the list to be the next browns coach so says the Nevada sports book. Hummm what do they know 

Nothing. It's a bet to draw in suckers.  

@babernakle said:

They are all in they have this year and next and there done for ten years that might be why McVay is tops of the list to be the next browns coach so says the Nevada sports book. Hummm what do they know 

He wasn't at the top of the list.   He was on the list and a ways down on that list.

@tiamat63 said:

Good christ.  As if they needed more help.  

They are all in they have this year and next and there done for ten years that might be why McVay is tops of the list to be the next browns coach so says the Nevada sports book. Hummm what do they know 

@mark-o said:

The problem is too many "fans" sit around at home in their mommy and daddy's  basement playing Madden and there you can make trades all you want.

In reality, you trade for a guy like that and all he's doing is cashing checks and wasting a roster spot and the reps of a guy who needs them to get better.

The ones who complain just DON’T GET IT.

It’s about building through the draft. Getting GOOD Young players who are hungry. 

NOT spending a bunch of money on players who already made a bunch of money and are set for life. 

Jarvis Landry? He still has more money to be made and will always play with that Hines Ward like edge. (Passion)

@hoorta said:

Chill out- the guys who were traded today would have made zero difference in the Browns win column. You don't make trades just to make trades if they don't significantly improve your team. 

Some guys haven't figured out yet we're not going to the Super Bowl this year, but damn we have lots of cap room, so let's bring in another Kenny Britt caliber player just to say we did something.... 

The problem is too many "fans" sit around at home in their mommy and daddy's  basement playing Madden and there you can make trades all you want and nothing long term matters.   Since it's all a game you actually can trade for a Britt or a Bowe and you get the full potential and ability.  In reality, you trade for a guy like that and all he's doing is cashing checks and wasting a roster spot and the reps of a guy who needs them to get better.

@brownsnmopar said:

We could of F U C K I N G done something....oh wait no cap room....I love Dorsey but......what an Fn joke today sitting on our thumbs!!!

Chill out- the guys who were traded today would have made zero difference in the Browns win column. You don't make trades just to make trades if they don't significantly improve your team. 

Some guys haven't figured out yet we're not going to the Super Bowl this year, but damn we have lots of cap room, so let's bring in another Kenny Britt caliber player just to say we did something....