@dutch-oven said:

Somehow I'll survive, Tour. 

What's more interesting is why you feel like you need to run to LondonBrown's defense constantly... 

Considering how often he gets called a troll, or a Negative Nancy, well... that must be exhausting. 

Not interesting at all actually. When I disagree with LB, which happens as often as not, I actually discuss the topic with him. I'm secure enough in my own arguments to do so with out having to cast aspersions or ascribe his motivations.

I simply wonder why you have the constant urge to bring up Sashi repeatedly in replies to LB when he's not been mentioned. Why is that???

This thread is a prime example. The topic was Njoku. In the one reply you made on topic you essentially endorsed Njoku's play. Does that makes you a Sashi fan as well?

As for your survival... being an ass has been fatal to many former posters.

@londonbrown said:

That’s a funny one. You troll almost all my posts by mentioning Sashi Brown. 

That certainly  must be exhausting. 

Not at all. 

I'm not the one who throws fits when they aren't getting their way, Mr. I'M QUITTING THIS BOARD BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE BEING MEAN TO ME, Nancy. 

@orion said:

And that's absolutely great!    But it should've been done a long time ago...and many times over.  We've wasted so many years and high picks.  Where was Dorsey when we needed him back then....

as i said somewhere else you gotta be excited about are direction

Zombo said:

David is 22 years old.

Baker 23, Chubb 22, Calloway 21.

And they are already beating the Ravens and Bungles.

Gotta suck to be fan of those teams and see the future in front of your face.

Z

Ogbah is the oldster at 25, Garrett 22, Coley and Ogunjobi 24. Landry seems older than his 26. Maybe because he is as mature as 36.

Zombo said:

David is 22 years old.

Baker 23, Chubb 22, Calloway 21.

And they are already beating the Ravens and Bungles.

And that's absolutely great!    But it should've been done a long time ago...and many times over.  We've wasted so many years and high picks.  Where was Dorsey when we needed him back then....

@londonbrown said:

That’s a funny one. You troll almost all my posts by mentioning Sashi Brown. 

That certainly  must be exhausting. 

Yes, you are both exhausting.  It is much more fun when I get into a back and forth snit.

@dutch-oven said:

Somehow I'll survive, Tour. 

What's more interesting is why you feel like you need to run to LondonBrown's defense constantly... 

Considering how often he gets called a troll, or a Negative Nancy, well... that must be exhausting. 

That’s a funny one. You troll almost all my posts by mentioning Sashi Brown. 

That certainly  must be exhausting. 

Baker 23, Chubb 22, Calloway 21.

And they are already beating the Ravens and Bungles.

Gotta suck to be fan of those teams and see the future in front of your face.

Z

@orion said:

One more thing on Njoku.  That TD that he got when he jumped in the air around the 5 yard line and was stopped waaay short of the goal line......that TD should go to Tretter who came in and pushed him and the pile into the end zone.   Tretter gets an ATABOY for that one.

If you can get half a sack then why can't you get half a TD??

@jiggins7919 said:

Conversely, I can't understand for the life of me why Devalve can't get in on the action. He just seems like the perfect compliment to our offense, yet the guy doesn't get a catch (or target), even when Baker throws it to 8 or 9 different receivers. 

Yup.  He's the current guy that you'd ask, "Does he have pictures of Dorsey cheating on his wife?"  He hardly ever plays and hardly ever produces anything.

One more thing on Njoku.  That TD that he got when he jumped in the air around the 5 yard line and was stopped waaay short of the goal line......that TD should go to Tretter who came in and pushed him and the pile into the end zone.   Tretter gets an ATABOY for that one.

@orion said:

...umm...to Njoku...he's got all the tools.  He's big and athletic.  Makes incredible catches...but those are the ones that you've got to concentrate really hard on.  You have to block out everything and focus.  He's just got to DO that consistently when the pass is right too him and easy to catch.  I think on those, he sometimes starts looking/thinking about where he's going to run and forgets to look the ball all the way in. - Braylon Edwards used to do that...except HE wasn't looking to run, he was looking out in case someone might hit him and give him a boo-boo.

Njoku has a chance to make a big name for himself.  If Baker thinks that he can rely on him, he'll get him the ball.

You know who else I'm impressed with? Orson Charles. He's had several nice plays this year, and the guy can REALLY block. Remember the last couple years how we said that we really needed a blocking TE? Charles not only does that, but also doubles as our FB/H-Back in I-Form and other multi-back formations. He's been a nice surprise, and he's extremely physical. He'll also surprise you with a big play. Wasn't he the one that broke that big play against Oakland? 

Conversely, I can't understand for the life of me why Devalve can't get in on the action. He just seems like the perfect compliment to our offense, yet the guy doesn't get a catch (or target), even when Baker throws it to 8 or 9 different receivers. 

@tour2ma said:

Calls 'em likes I sees 'em...

And on this one you've gone full-asshole...

Somehow I'll survive, Tour. 

What's more interesting is why you feel like you need to run to LondonBrown's defense constantly... 

Considering how often he gets called a troll, or a Negative Nancy, well... that must be exhausting. 

Njoku has a chance to make a big name for himself.  If Baker thinks that he can rely on him, he'll get him the ball.

@dutch-oven said:

Who knows... ask LondonBrown, he's the guy who started this nonsense. 

But don't ask him too strongly, or Tour will strike down the vengeance upon thee. 

Calls 'em likes I sees 'em...

And on this one you've gone full-asshole...

@orion said:

Did people really want him 'gone'?  

I know that we sometimes got down on him because he dropped really easy balls that brought on the punter.....but isn't that a normal reaction?  Especially when he drops a ball in just about every game ya watch.  And we've all seen the talent.  He makes some really difficult catches.  -  It's really good that he's strung some games together.  5 targets and 5 catches against the Bengals.  Really good to see!

Who knows... ask LondonBrown, he's the guy who started this nonsense. 

But don't ask him too strongly, or Tour will strike down the vengeance upon thee. 

@orion said:

Did people really want him 'gone'?  

I know that we sometimes got down on him because he dropped really easy balls that brought on the punter.....but isn't that a normal reaction?  Especially when he drops a ball in just about every game ya watch.  And we've all seen the talent.  He makes some really difficult catches.  -  It's really good that he's strung some games together.  5 targets and 5 catches against the Bengals.  Really good to see!

I was as tough on Njoku as anybody, but I NEVER wanted him gone. I was just tired of the drops and the occasional missed block that hurt us. He's REALLY been stepping up his play, and that diving catch he made on the laser seam pass was stunning. It was also a bad pass by the normally uber accurate Mayfield. Njoku was extremely open and Baker HAS to put that ball on him so Njoku can have the chance to run after the catch. 

@dutch-oven said:

I was wrong on Hyde and Chubb how? 

I get that passive-aggressive "I told you" posts are your thing, along with storming off this board because your tender sensibilities have been hurt, but this is a new development. Are all Brits twats like you, or are you special? 

Dutch... seriously STFU.

You play the Sashi card out of nowhere and it's gotten very, very old.

Drop it...

@dutch-oven said:

People don't want him gone because he's not dropping balls on the regular anymore. 

It's not that difficult to comprehend. 

Did people really want him 'gone'?  

I know that we sometimes got down on him because he dropped really easy balls that brought on the punter.....but isn't that a normal reaction?  Especially when he drops a ball in just about every game ya watch.  And we've all seen the talent.  He makes some really difficult catches.  -  It's really good that he's strung some games together.  5 targets and 5 catches against the Bengals.  Really good to see!

@mark-o said:

He was dropping passes in the preseason as we saw on Hard Knocks when he stayed after practice catching passes off the machine.   It does seem to be a concentration issue.  He catches the hard ones and he drops the ones that hit him in the hands.  That seems to have gone away in the last few weeks, kinda like all the penalties and the dropped passes in general over the last 3 weeks.

Mark, that's a terrific point.  I was actually going to comment on the dropped passes, and they've somehow become a non-issue.  I don't know HOW, and I really don't care, LOL.  I'm also really impressed with Antonio Callaway lately.  That 3rd and 11 he caught on the sideline was a magical example of Baker being Baker, and a receiver excelling at his craft.  That was a game-changing moment in the game, and that completion lead directly to a TD.  

@clevelandwantsplayoffs said:

He dropped some that were on the money. At the end of the day drops is usually a matter of concentration especially for players who work the middle like Njoku.

That being said, consistent QB play can’t hurt the cause

He was dropping passes in the preseason as we saw on Hard Knocks when he stayed after practice catching passes off the machine.   It does seem to be a concentration issue.  He catches the hard ones and he drops the ones that hit him in the hands.  That seems to have gone away in the last few weeks, kinda like all the penalties and the dropped passes in general over the last 3 weeks.

@dutch-oven said:

But that's the thing with Mayfield and Njoku - there's been quite a few instances where Mayfield really hasn't put the ball on the money to Njoku, and the kid has made fantastic catches to help Baker out. Njoku has really come on this season. He's very important to this team down the road. 

Maybe I should amend that to say in the same area code. LOL!?

@texasag1969 said:

It's also easier to catch when you have a QB putting the ball on the money.

But that's the thing with Mayfield and Njoku - there's been quite a few instances where Mayfield really hasn't put the ball on the money to Njoku, and the kid has made fantastic catches to help Baker out. Njoku has really come on this season. He's very important to this team down the road. 

@texasag1969 said:

It's also easier to catch when you have a QB putting the ball on the money.

He dropped some that were on the money. At the end of the day drops is usually a matter of concentration especially for players who work the middle like Njoku.

That being said, consistent QB play can’t hurt the cause