<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Hall of Fame Quarterbacks do not grow on trees]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>
	The drafting of a Hall of Fame QB is NOT by any means a common occurrence.   It actually, I believe, happens rarer than one might think.  I believe that, on average, there may be only one drafted like every 3 years.  Let's look at when they have been taken since the draft started in 1936:
</p>

<p>
	1937  Sammy Baugh
</p>

<p>
	1939 Sid Luckman
</p>

<p>
	1944 Otto Graham and Bob Waterfield
</p>

<p>
	1949 George Blanda and Norm Van Brocklin
</p>

<p>
	1955 Johnny Unitas
</p>

<p>
	1957 Len Dawson and Sonny Jurgenson
</p>

<p>
	1961 Fran Tarkenton
</p>

<p>
	1964 Roger Staubach
</p>

<p>
	1967 Bob Griese
</p>

<p>
	1968 Ken Stabler
</p>

<p>
	1970 Terry Bradshaw
</p>

<p>
	1973 Dan Fouts
</p>

<p>
	1979 Joe Montana
</p>

<p>
	1983 Elway, Marino, Kelly
</p>

<p>
	1989 Troy Aikman
</p>

<p>
	1991 Brett Favre..... He was the last QB drafted in the regular draft to make the HOF 
</p>

<p>
	(note....somewhere in there Steve Young was taken in the Supplemental draft)
</p>

<p>
	So...in a 56 year time span  only 21 (22 incl. Young)   HOFs QBs  came about.
</p>

<p>
	After 1991, the next HOF QBs will be:
</p>

<p>
	1998 Payton Manning
</p>

<p>
	2000 Tom Brady
</p>

<p>
	2001 Drew Brees
</p>

<p>
	2004....possibles/probables  Eli Manning, Ben R. Phillip Rivers.
</p>

<p>
	2005  Aaron Rodgers
</p>

<p>
	After Rodgers....can it be said that any other QB is a sure fire HOFer at QB?   
</p>

<p>
	The best bet in my mind is Russell Wilson.   Others?  Newton?  Luck.
</p>



<p>
	Point is, hopefully Mayfield will be one of those very rare finds that could one day be considered in that vein
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	When you realize that you’ve finally hit the lottery. . .
</p>



<p><a href="https://uploads.brownsboard.com/ips/monthly_2018_12/5C4822D6-0BB1-4100-865B-00B6B35153A5.jpeg.d04673d3273ce868c2b9d7b7b11ccff3.jpeg"><img data-fileid="8533" src="https://uploads.brownsboard.com/ips/monthly_2018_12/5C4822D6-0BB1-4100-865B-00B6B35153A5.thumb.jpeg.04bff67423724d924d6fd83fe15608f2.jpeg" alt="5C4822D6-0BB1-4100-865B-00B6B35153A5.jpeg" /></a></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/839732</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/839732</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Canton Dawg]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2018 03:20:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Hall of Fame Quarterbacks do not grow on trees on Sun, 23 Dec 2018 19:32:10 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Big ben and eli manning are lock 1st ballot hall of Fame guys. Theres no maybe about that.
</p>

<p>
	Newton will be really interesting. His career stats assuming hes got 4-5 more years will be unlike any other QB in a good way. He wont get in 1st ballot but we shall see.
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		<p>
			He won't. And he needs at least 4 more top years, and my bet is he won't stay healty either. Payton 72,000 yards, Eli 55,000. Payton 539 TDs, Eli 357, QBR Payton 96, Eli 84.  If it wasn't for the all time miracle catch in the Super Bowl, he'd be one short there too.  
		</p>
	
</blockquote>

<p>
	I guess I didn’t realize he was that far behind in yards and touchdowns. 
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		<p>
			<strong>You mean Eli?   Eli is still healthy.....and could reach his brothers career numbers  if he continues to play.</strong>
		</p>
	
</blockquote>

<p>
	He won't. And he needs at least 4 more top years, and my bet is he won't stay healty either. Payton 72,000 yards, Eli 55,000. Payton 539 TDs, Eli 357, QBR Payton 96, Eli 84.  If it wasn't for the all time miracle catch in the Super Bowl, he'd be one short there too.  
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		<p>
			<span style="background-color:#fbfbfb">McNabb</span><span>﻿</span><span style="background-color:#fbfbfb">?</span><span>﻿</span><span style="background-color:#fbfbfb">     Bledsoe?    Testaverde?   Carson Palmer?   McNair?  </span><span>﻿﻿</span>
		</p>

		<p>
			No on all of them. IMO
		</p>
	
</blockquote>

<p>
	Mcnabb and Matt Ryan are both a yes from me. The rest are no.
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		<p>
			<strong>Remember 1999?  It was going to be the next 1983......but it wasn't.   1-2 good ones...not quite HOF....and 3 meh?</strong>
		</p>
	
</blockquote>

<p>
	True. The toughest most important piece in all of team sports is an NFL franchise quarterback.
</p>

<p>
	Hard to believe that class of 1983 was 35 years ago, I was a spry 33 year old then.  <img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/twemoji/1f62e.png?v=33a42da2581" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-twemoji emoji--open_mouth" title=":open_mouth:" alt="😮" /></p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/839364</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/839364</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[mjp28]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:08:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Hall of Fame Quarterbacks do not grow on trees on Sat, 22 Dec 2018 16:36:50 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/hoorta" aria-label="Profile: hoorta">@<bdi>hoorta</bdi></a> <a href="/post/839300">said</a>:</p>
	

	
		<p>
			He will always live in the shadow of Big Brother Gip- that's what will kill his HOF credentials....  
		</p>
	
</blockquote>

<p>
	<strong>You mean Eli?   Eli is still healthy.....and could reach his brothers career numbers  if he continues to play.</strong>
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		<p>
			Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
		</p>

		<p>
			Who else is borderline?
		</p>

		<p>
			McNabb?     Bledsoe?    Testaverde?   Carson Palmer?   McNair?  
		</p>

		<p>
			What about Matt Ryan?
		</p>

		<p>
			Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
		</p>

		
	
</blockquote>

<p>
	He will always live in the shadow of Big Brother Gip- that's what will kill his HOF credentials....  
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	<span style="background-color:#fbfbfb">McNabb</span><span>﻿</span><span style="background-color:#fbfbfb">?</span><span>﻿</span><span style="background-color:#fbfbfb">     Bledsoe?    Testaverde?   Carson Palmer?   McNair?  </span><span>﻿﻿</span>
</p>

<p>
	No on all of them. IMO
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		<p>
			Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
		</p>

		<p>
			Who else is borderline?
		</p>

		<p>
			McNabb?     Bledsoe?    Testaverde?   Carson Palmer?   McNair?  
		</p>

		<p>
			What about Matt Ryan?
		</p>

		<p>
			Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
		</p>

		<table style="background-color:#ffffff;color:#000000"><tbody><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						4
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">2004</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						4
					</td>
					<td>
						<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RivePh00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Philip Rivers</a></strong>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						22
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2004_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="New York Giants">NYG</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						2004
					</td>
					<td>
						2018
					</td>
					<td>
						0
					</td>
					<td>
						8
					</td>
					<td>
						13
					</td>
					<td>
						134
					</td>
					<td>
						210
					</td>
					<td>
						206
					</td>
					<td>
						117-89-0
					</td>
					<td>
						4481
					</td>
					<td>
						6939
					</td>
					<td>
						54299
					</td>
					<td>
						373
					</td>
					<td>
						174
					</td>
					<td>
						351
					</td>
					<td>
						579
					</td>
					<td>
						3
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/nocarolinast/" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">North Carolina St.</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/philip-rivers-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						5
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">2005</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						24
					</td>
					<td>
						<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Aaron Rodgers</a></strong>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						21
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2005_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="Green Bay Packers">GNB</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						2005
					</td>
					<td>
						2018
					</td>
					<td>
						2
					</td>
					<td>
						7
					</td>
					<td>
						10
					</td>
					<td>
						128
					</td>
					<td>
						163
					</td>
					<td>
						156
					</td>
					<td>
						99-56-1
					</td>
					<td>
						3520
					</td>
					<td>
						5432
					</td>
					<td>
						42476
					</td>
					<td>
						336
					</td>
					<td>
						80
					</td>
					<td>
						563
					</td>
					<td>
						2907
					</td>
					<td>
						25
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/california/" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">California</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/aaron-rodgers-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						6
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2008/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">2008</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						3
					</td>
					<td>
						<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Matt Ryan</a></strong>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						23
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl/2008_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="Atlanta Falcons">ATL</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						2008
					</td>
					<td>
						2018
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						4
					</td>
					<td>
						11
					</td>
					<td>
						120
					</td>
					<td>
						172
					</td>
					<td>
						172
					</td>
					<td>
						100-72-0
					</td>
					<td>
						4006
					</td>
					<td>
						6131
					</td>
					<td>
						46103
					</td>
					<td>
						290
					</td>
					<td>
						132
					</td>
					<td>
						379
					</td>
					<td>
						1142
					</td>
					<td>
						8
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/bostoncol/" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Boston Col.</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-ryan-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						7
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">2004</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						11
					</td>
					<td>
						<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Ben Roethlisberger</a></strong>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						22
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2004_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="Pittsburgh Steelers">PIT</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						2004
					</td>
					<td>
						2018
					</td>
					<td>
						0
					</td>
					<td>
						6
					</td>
					<td>
						15
					</td>
					<td>
						120
					</td>
					<td>
						214
					</td>
					<td>
						212
					</td>
					<td>
						143-68-1
					</td>
					<td>
						4552
					</td>
					<td>
						7073
					</td>
					<td>
						55527
					</td>
					<td>
						359
					</td>
					<td>
						189
					</td>
					<td>
						464
					</td>
					<td>
						1343
					</td>
					<td>
						19
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/miami(oh)/" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Miami (OH)</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ben-roethlisberger-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#ffff88">
						8
					</th>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488">2004</a>
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						1
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						1
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannEl00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488">Eli Manning</a></strong>
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						QB
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						23
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2004_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488" title="San Diego Chargers">SDG</a>
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						2004
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						2018
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						0
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						4
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						14
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						112
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						230
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						228
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						116-112-0
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						4755
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						7898
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						55371
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						357
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						237
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						308
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						558
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						6
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/mississippi/" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488">Mississippi</a>
					</td>
					<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/eli-manning-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						9
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">2003</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PalmCa00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Carson Palmer</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						23
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin/2003_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="Cincinnati Bengals">CIN</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						2004
					</td>
					<td>
						2017
					</td>
					<td>
						0
					</td>
					<td>
						3
					</td>
					<td>
						11
					</td>
					<td>
						108
					</td>
					<td>
						182
					</td>
					<td>
						181
					</td>
					<td>
						92-88-1
					</td>
					<td>
						3941
					</td>
					<td>
						6307
					</td>
					<td>
						46247
					</td>
					<td>
						294
					</td>
					<td>
						187
					</td>
					<td>
						301
					</td>
					<td>
						474
					</td>
					<td>
						8
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/usc/" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">USC</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carson-palmer-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						10
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">1999</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						2
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Donovan McNabb</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						22
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/1999_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="Philadelphia Eagles">PHI</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1999
					</td>
					<td>
						2011
					</td>
					<td>
						0
					</td>
					<td>
						6
					</td>
					<td>
						11
					</td>
					<td>
						107
					</td>
					<td>
						167
					</td>
					<td>
						161
					</td>
					<td>
						98-62-1
					</td>
					<td>
						3170
					</td>
					<td>
						5374
					</td>
					<td>
						37276
					</td>
					<td>
						234
					</td>
					<td>
						117
					</td>
					<td>
						616
					</td>
					<td>
						3459
					</td>
					<td>
						29
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/syracuse/" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Syracuse</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/donovan-mcnabb-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						11
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">1993</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BledDr00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Drew Bledsoe</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						21
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/1993_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="New England Patriots">NWE</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1993
					</td>
					<td>
						2006
					</td>
					<td>
						0
					</td>
					<td>
						4
					</td>
					<td>
						12
					</td>
					<td>
						103
					</td>
					<td>
						194
					</td>
					<td>
						193
					</td>
					<td>
						98-95-0
					</td>
					<td>
						3839
					</td>
					<td>
						6717
					</td>
					<td>
						44611
					</td>
					<td>
						251
					</td>
					<td>
						206
					</td>
					<td>
						385
					</td>
					<td>
						764
					</td>
					<td>
						10
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/washingtonst/" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Washington St.</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-bledsoe-1.html" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">College Stats</a>
					</td>
				</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
						12
					</th>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995/draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">1995</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1
					</td>
					<td>
						3
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaSt00.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488">Steve McNair</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						QB
					</td>
					<td>
						22
					</td>
					<td>
						<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1995_draft.htm" rel="external nofollow" style="color:#884488" title="Houston Oilers">HOU</a>
					</td>
					<td>
						1995
					</td>
					<td>
						2
					</td>
				</tr></tbody></table>
</blockquote>

<p>
	Borderline sounds about right to me...
</p>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/839228</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/839228</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[nickers]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:50:13 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Hall of Fame Quarterbacks do not grow on trees on Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:11:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a class="plugin-mentions-user plugin-mentions-a" href="/user/nickers" aria-label="Profile: nickers">@<bdi>nickers</bdi></a> <a href="/post/839211">said</a>:</p>
	

	
		<p>
			Cam is too much of a diva dip shit and is uncoachible.. Personally... I can't stand him... Hes a whiney little bitch who deserves NOTHING!
		</p>
	
</blockquote>

<p>
	Do you think he will be one of those borderline guys even (notwithstanding your prejudice against him)?
</p>

<p>
	Who else is borderline?
</p>

<p>
	McNabb?     Bledsoe?    Testaverde?   Carson Palmer?   McNair?  
</p>

<p>
	What about Matt Ryan?
</p>

<p>
	Per PFR....being drafted in 2008, he has actually had more career production than both Ben R. and Eli.....and almost as much as Rodgers and Rivers. Did blowing that big lead in the SB really drastically change our perception of him?
</p>

<table style="background-color:#ffffff;color:#000000"><tbody><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				4
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">2004</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				4
			</td>
			<td>
				<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RivePh00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Philip Rivers</a></strong>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				22
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2004_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="New York Giants" rel="external nofollow">NYG</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				2004
			</td>
			<td>
				2018
			</td>
			<td>
				0
			</td>
			<td>
				8
			</td>
			<td>
				13
			</td>
			<td>
				134
			</td>
			<td>
				210
			</td>
			<td>
				206
			</td>
			<td>
				117-89-0
			</td>
			<td>
				4481
			</td>
			<td>
				6939
			</td>
			<td>
				54299
			</td>
			<td>
				373
			</td>
			<td>
				174
			</td>
			<td>
				351
			</td>
			<td>
				579
			</td>
			<td>
				3
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/nocarolinast/" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">North Carolina St.</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/philip-rivers-1.html" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				5
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2005/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">2005</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				24
			</td>
			<td>
				<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RodgAa00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Aaron Rodgers</a></strong>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				21
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/gnb/2005_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="Green Bay Packers" rel="external nofollow">GNB</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				2005
			</td>
			<td>
				2018
			</td>
			<td>
				2
			</td>
			<td>
				7
			</td>
			<td>
				10
			</td>
			<td>
				128
			</td>
			<td>
				163
			</td>
			<td>
				156
			</td>
			<td>
				99-56-1
			</td>
			<td>
				3520
			</td>
			<td>
				5432
			</td>
			<td>
				42476
			</td>
			<td>
				336
			</td>
			<td>
				80
			</td>
			<td>
				563
			</td>
			<td>
				2907
			</td>
			<td>
				25
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/california/" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">California</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/aaron-rodgers-1.html" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				6
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2008/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">2008</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				3
			</td>
			<td>
				<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Matt Ryan</a></strong>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				23
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/atl/2008_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="Atlanta Falcons" rel="external nofollow">ATL</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				2008
			</td>
			<td>
				2018
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				4
			</td>
			<td>
				11
			</td>
			<td>
				120
			</td>
			<td>
				172
			</td>
			<td>
				172
			</td>
			<td>
				100-72-0
			</td>
			<td>
				4006
			</td>
			<td>
				6131
			</td>
			<td>
				46103
			</td>
			<td>
				290
			</td>
			<td>
				132
			</td>
			<td>
				379
			</td>
			<td>
				1142
			</td>
			<td>
				8
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/bostoncol/" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Boston Col.</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/matt-ryan-1.html" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				7
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">2004</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				11
			</td>
			<td>
				<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Ben Roethlisberger</a></strong>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				22
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/pit/2004_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="Pittsburgh Steelers" rel="external nofollow">PIT</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				2004
			</td>
			<td>
				2018
			</td>
			<td>
				0
			</td>
			<td>
				6
			</td>
			<td>
				15
			</td>
			<td>
				120
			</td>
			<td>
				214
			</td>
			<td>
				212
			</td>
			<td>
				143-68-1
			</td>
			<td>
				4552
			</td>
			<td>
				7073
			</td>
			<td>
				55527
			</td>
			<td>
				359
			</td>
			<td>
				189
			</td>
			<td>
				464
			</td>
			<td>
				1343
			</td>
			<td>
				19
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/miami(oh)/" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Miami (OH)</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/ben-roethlisberger-1.html" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#ffff88">
				8
			</th>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2004/draft.htm" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">2004</a>
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				1
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				1
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				<strong><a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannEl00.htm" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Eli Manning</a></strong>
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				QB
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				23
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/sdg/2004_draft.htm" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488" title="San Diego Chargers" rel="external nofollow">SDG</a>
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				2004
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				2018
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				0
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				4
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				14
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				112
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				230
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				228
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				116-112-0
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				4755
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				7898
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				55371
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				357
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				237
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				308
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				558
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				6
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/mississippi/" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Mississippi</a>
			</td>
			<td style="background-color:#ffff88">
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/eli-manning-1.html" style="background-color:#ffff88;color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				9
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2003/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">2003</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PalmCa00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Carson Palmer</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				23
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cin/2003_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="Cincinnati Bengals" rel="external nofollow">CIN</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				2004
			</td>
			<td>
				2017
			</td>
			<td>
				0
			</td>
			<td>
				3
			</td>
			<td>
				11
			</td>
			<td>
				108
			</td>
			<td>
				182
			</td>
			<td>
				181
			</td>
			<td>
				92-88-1
			</td>
			<td>
				3941
			</td>
			<td>
				6307
			</td>
			<td>
				46247
			</td>
			<td>
				294
			</td>
			<td>
				187
			</td>
			<td>
				301
			</td>
			<td>
				474
			</td>
			<td>
				8
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/usc/" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">USC</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carson-palmer-1.html" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				10
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1999/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">1999</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				2
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaDo00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Donovan McNabb</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				22
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/1999_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="Philadelphia Eagles" rel="external nofollow">PHI</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1999
			</td>
			<td>
				2011
			</td>
			<td>
				0
			</td>
			<td>
				6
			</td>
			<td>
				11
			</td>
			<td>
				107
			</td>
			<td>
				167
			</td>
			<td>
				161
			</td>
			<td>
				98-62-1
			</td>
			<td>
				3170
			</td>
			<td>
				5374
			</td>
			<td>
				37276
			</td>
			<td>
				234
			</td>
			<td>
				117
			</td>
			<td>
				616
			</td>
			<td>
				3459
			</td>
			<td>
				29
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/syracuse/" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Syracuse</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/donovan-mcnabb-1.html" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				11
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1993/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">1993</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BledDr00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Drew Bledsoe</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				21
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nwe/1993_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="New England Patriots" rel="external nofollow">NWE</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1993
			</td>
			<td>
				2006
			</td>
			<td>
				0
			</td>
			<td>
				4
			</td>
			<td>
				12
			</td>
			<td>
				103
			</td>
			<td>
				194
			</td>
			<td>
				193
			</td>
			<td>
				98-95-0
			</td>
			<td>
				3839
			</td>
			<td>
				6717
			</td>
			<td>
				44611
			</td>
			<td>
				251
			</td>
			<td>
				206
			</td>
			<td>
				385
			</td>
			<td>
				764
			</td>
			<td>
				10
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/schools/washingtonst/" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Washington St.</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/drew-bledsoe-1.html" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">College Stats</a>
			</td>
		</tr><tr><th style="background-color:#FFFFFF">
				12
			</th>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/1995/draft.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">1995</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1
			</td>
			<td>
				3
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/McNaSt00.htm" style="color:#884488" rel="external nofollow">Steve McNair</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				QB
			</td>
			<td>
				22
			</td>
			<td>
				<a href="https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/oti/1995_draft.htm" style="color:#884488" title="Houston Oilers" rel="external nofollow">HOU</a>
			</td>
			<td>
				1995
			</td>
			<td>
				2
			</td>
		</tr></tbody></table>]]></description><link>https://brownsboard.com/post/839217</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://brownsboard.com/post/839217</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[The Gipper]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:11:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Hall of Fame Quarterbacks do not grow on trees on Fri, 21 Dec 2018 18:03:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>
	Cam is too much of a diva dip shit and is uncoachible.. Personally... I can't stand him... Hes a whiney little bitch who deserves NOTHING!
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			Nyet to Camshaft. Luck needs to win a Super Bowl and stay healthy. The QB class of 2018 might turn out like the Class of 1983 ( of course way early to tell). LOL, we may have to live to be 100 to find out. <span><img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/twemoji/1f642.png?v=33a42da2581" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-twemoji emoji--slightly_smiling_face" title=":slightly_smiling_face:" alt="🙂" /></span>
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	<strong>Remember 1999?  It was going to be the next 1983......but it wasn't.   1-2 good ones...not quite HOF....and 3 meh?</strong>
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	Nyet to Camshaft. Luck needs to win a Super Bowl and stay healthy. The QB class of 2018 might turn out like the Class of 1983 ( of course way early to tell). LOL, we may have to live to be 100 to find out. <span><img src="https://brownsboard.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/twemoji/1f642.png?v=33a42da2581" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-twemoji emoji--slightly_smiling_face" title=":slightly_smiling_face:" alt="🙂" /></span>
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