@gumby73 said:

No projected comp. picks coming up this draft.   https://overthecap.com/projecting-the-2019-compensatory-picks/    

None for us...so who cares.

@tiamat63 said:

Watching Clemsons interior Dline.  Wilkins and Ferral especially

There is some beast Tackle play going on too..

@bjh2130 said:

Remember the corner from Oregon we had for a little bit was projected first rounder got hurt was udfa or 7th round pick? Well he didn't recover (he is still in league)

Ifo ekpre-olamu

@bjh2130 said:

Edit these are the jaylon Smith numbers
Contract: $18,461,371 (loss)

Guaranteed: $20,084,499 (loss)

Signing bonus: $13,426,391 (loss)

Jaylon did have an insurance policy that paid him 900k but those numbers above are what he missed out on going from top 5 (5th) to 2nd rounder,

Good thing for him is that he's playing like a top 5 pick now and he will get paid on his next contract.  But he is probably the exception.   It's a hard choice and I agree with you.  I don't blame them at all.  I'd prefer that they play as a fan but I get why they don't. 

@mark-o said:

I'd like to say no but my college playing career wasn't leading to a millions and millions of dollars earned in the NFL either.    But then look at the Jaylon Smith (i think that's his name) from Notre Dame who blew out his knee in the Fiesta Bowl a couple years ago.  Still gets drafted and works his ass off to get back on the field and now is playing great in the NFL.   He doesn't regret trying to play in his last ever college game. 

It's a tough decision and I understand why guys skip the game.  I don't like that they do it but I get it.  I'd like to think that I'd play.

Even with insurance he still misses out on over 20 million for his first contract. Myself I'd like to say I wouldn't skip out because how much I love my team but you throw 20 million guaranteed in front of me and I can't definitively say. That's life changing money.

According to industry professionals, the general rule is that a top-10 pick will qualify for $10 million of permanent total disability with a $5 million loss-of-value rider. The 10 to 20 picks would be looking at $5 to $7.5 million of PTD and $2 to $3 million in loss of value. Picks in the 20 to 30 pick range would be around $5 million total disability. So in smith's case since he is not permanently hurt he could only have possibly recovered 5 out of that 20 million from the first contract he missed out on.

Remember the corner from Oregon we had for a little bit was projected first rounder got hurt was udfa or 7th round pick? Well he didn't recover (he is still in league) like jaylon Smith did and his insurance policy only paid a million (I know still a ton of money). That's not even close to what he lost. The insurance policies aren't that great. 

I do not blame the players one bit that sit out. The system is not set up well enough for the players and certainly not for the ones good enough to make it to the NFL 

Edit these are the jaylon Smith numbers
Contract: $18,461,371 (loss)

Guaranteed: $20,084,499 (loss)

Signing bonus: $13,426,391 (loss)

Jaylon did have an insurance policy that paid him 900k but those numbers above are what he missed out on going from top 5 (5th) to 2nd rounder,

@mark-o said:

I'd like to say no but my college playing career wasn't leading to a millions and millions of dollars earned in the NFL either.    But then look at the Jaylon Smith (i think that's his name) from Notre Dame who blew out his knee in the Fiesta Bowl a couple years ago.  Still gets drafted and works his ass off to get back on the field and now is playing great in the NFL.   He doesn't regret trying to play in his last ever college game. 

It's a tough decision and I understand why guys skip the game.  I don't like that they do it but I get it.  I'd like to think that I'd play.

You can get insurance policies for playing additional years some paid by the schools.  Now it might not approach #1 pick or top round picks (Mayfield about $33M) but it is something.  From ESPN 2016:  http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/17328541/college-football-insurance-policies-big-complicated-business

Sources revealed Wednesday that Clemson's Deshaun Watson has taken out two insurance policies against a career-ending injury: a $5 million total disability policy and a $5 million loss of value policy.

The reality is, players rarely end up receiving a payout, even after they've sustained an injury. And when they do get paid, it's still unclear whether the IRS has dibs on a cut of the money.

Here's a primer on how these policies work:

What is a total disability policy?

It protects a player should he become unable to play football again because of an injury. This covers an injury on or off the field, usually from the time a player signs the policy until the following football season. The only reason something wouldn't be covered is if there's a pre-existing injury; the insurer might specify in the policy that the player would not be covered if the same injury occurs again.......

What do these policies cost?

A rule of thumb is about $10,000 for every $1 million in coverage. Previously, the NCAA helped secure a loan for the premium, which would be paid by the player's family, but a couple of years ago, that changed when it was discovered that schools were allowed to take out the policies themselves.

Sources said that Clemson took out a policy for Watson through International Specialty Insurance, which has established itself as the leader in the space, especially when it comes to offering loss of value.  ..CONTINUED IN LINK......

@texasag1969 said:

And it doesn't hurt to recruit 5* and high 4* players nationally year  after year. It's not like every college team doesn't have some E. German wonders. But some  start with better athletes to begin with. Everyone else is just envious of those recruiting classes.

Like East Germany.....Alabama's program is the most highly developed, sophisticated program.

@mjp28 said:

Just curious if it were you (or any of you) or maybe your kid would you skip your last ever college game?

I don't have to worry about making that decision. My son did not skip his last year of school to go to work for millions of dollars....nor did he skip the 6 interim years of grad school. 

@mjp28 said:

Just curious if it were you (or any of you) or maybe your kid would you skip your last ever college game?

I'd like to say no but my college playing career wasn't leading to a millions and millions of dollars earned in the NFL either.    But then look at the Jaylon Smith (i think that's his name) from Notre Dame who blew out his knee in the Fiesta Bowl a couple years ago.  Still gets drafted and works his ass off to get back on the field and now is playing great in the NFL.   He doesn't regret trying to play in his last ever college game. 

It's a tough decision and I understand why guys skip the game.  I don't like that they do it but I get it.  I'd like to think that I'd play.

@the-gipper said:

And East Germany had some of the world's greatest athletes in there "program".  

And it doesn't hurt to recruit 5* and high 4* players nationally year  after year. It's not like every college team doesn't have some E. German wonders. But some  start with better athletes to begin with. Everyone else is just envious of those recruiting classes.

@the-gipper said:

No Buckeye players skipped the Rose Bowl.   (Unless you count Nick Bosa....who because of injury may have not been able to play in it anyway).

If OSU had been in a lesser bowl...even the Orange or Sugar,  then a couple of guys may have done that.....though maybe not in deference to Urban Meyer's last game.

Just curious if it were you (or any of you) or maybe your kid would you skip your last ever college game?

@mjp28 said:

I love this time of year for the bowl games, teams, players, fans the whole bit plus now the "who's not playing" list is getting longer.

Greed or good business decisions? Should the NCAA allow it or is there nothing they can do? Your thoughts.

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-football-bowl-season-players-skipping-NFL-Draft-Michigan-Wolverines-125855307/#125855307_12

College football's hottest growing trend could reach a record number this month during bowl season for players announcing they will not play in their teams' final game in prep for their pro careers.

Before cries of selfishness hit a fever pitch, know these are all calculated decisions and most are made after conversations with their coaching staff. In short, football is a business and these potential early-round selections are protecting their investment.

In recent years, Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey made waves by electing to stay in warm-up gear on the sideline during premiere games and the number of players sitting out this bowl season is expected to exceed double digits.

No Buckeye players skipped the Rose Bowl.   (Unless you count Nick Bosa....who because of injury may have not been able to play in it anyway).

If OSU had been in a lesser bowl...even the Orange or Sugar,  then a couple of guys may have done that.....though maybe not in deference to Urban Meyer's last game.

Greed or good business decisions? Should the NCAA allow it or is there nothing they can do? Your thoughts.

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/College-football-bowl-season-players-skipping-NFL-Draft-Michigan-Wolverines-125855307/#125855307_12

College football's hottest growing trend could reach a record number this month during bowl season for players announcing they will not play in their teams' final game in prep for their pro careers.

Before cries of selfishness hit a fever pitch, know these are all calculated decisions and most are made after conversations with their coaching staff. In short, football is a business and these potential early-round selections are protecting their investment.

In recent years, Leonard Fournette and Christian McCaffrey made waves by electing to stay in warm-up gear on the sideline during premiere games and the number of players sitting out this bowl season is expected to exceed double digits.

@texasag1969 said:

You might want to watch Bama's entire defense. About 5 of those guys are listed 1st rounders by most mock drafts.

And East Germany had some of the world's greatest athletes in there "program".  

@dutch-oven said:

I'll be watching the entire Clemson DLine next Monday. 

Well, almost the entire Clemson DLine. 

You might want to watch Bama's entire defense. About 5 of those guys are listed 1st rounders by most mock drafts.

@dutch-oven said:

I honestly do not know. I want to say yes. 

Dex is off my list.   Anybody see how much he pissed at?  002% is A LOT.    And given the look at his hair and jawline,  young blood has been regularly at it the last couple years.  

It's too big of a risk for this team in the first couple rounds when some depth and help makes us playoff contenders. 

@bjh2130 said:

Will Dexter Lawrence be in the program in the NFL for his failed drug test? I wouldn't assume so because the NCAA conducted it but Terrelle Pryor was punished by the NFL because of an NCAA suspension.

I honestly do not know. I want to say yes. 

@dutch-oven said:

I'll be watching the entire Clemson DLine next Monday. 

Well, almost the entire Clemson DLine. 

Will Dexter Lawrence be in the program in the NFL for his failed drug test? I wouldn't assume so because the NCAA conducted it but Terrelle Pryor was punished by the NFL because of an NCAA suspension.

Well, almost the entire Clemson DLine. 

@tiamat63 said:

Greg Gaines for UDub is another value space eater I'm seeing.

His bearded photos will show a twin to Jamie Meder..

@tiamat63 said:

Devin White is an animal and my favorite LB in this draft. 

     playing #42 here...he's played as a Kuechly LB all season at LSU..a solid choice tia